STARSBarry
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wait are people having issues with this? I just ordered one with my PS5 Pro and it came before it did.
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wait are people having issues with this? I just ordered one with my PS5 Pro and it came
Sony wants you to buy thier games digitally more than physically which make me fear that they gonna pull the same crap with PS6.
At least I can easily ignore Pro because it’s not really new system, I won’t miss out on games if I don’t get Pro.
With PS6 is different story, I hope they don't fucking do this again.
I dont understand whats up with Sony this gen, they are making some weird anti-consumer choices as if they actively want turn people off from their brand.....I dont get it.And if they ever do this I'll 100% go full the next Nintendo Switch.
They know they don't have competition.I dont understand whats up with Sony this gen, they are making some weird anti-consumer choices as if they actively want turn people off from their brand.....I dont get it.
But that shouldn't be my problem. Many stores had bundle offers with a drive/stand, which were canceled only after a few weeks. There weren't that many drives avaliable before the PS5 Pro was presented in detail, and a moment later there were none.
It's not fair that a customer is forced to hastily order components for hardware that has not yet been reviewed or even properly presented by the manufacturer. Most of what we know about pro is from last week.
It is obvious that this is not how it should be, blaming buyers for not purchasing the drive within one day of finding out that it would be sold separately is a bit of an exaggeration, i think. After all, they're just drives, it's not like they're made from unicorn dicks, there should be plenty of them.
On the other hand, it's PRO enough that you can replace the drive with other one once this breaks.
So the coin has 2 sides
Forces more people to switch into PC gaming or Nintendo.
The sooner you go all digital, the better off you'll be. Soon there won't even be optional disc drives and the ONLY way you'll play your old games on current hardware is digitally.
I dont understand whats up with Sony this gen, they are making some weird anti-consumer choices as if they actively want turn people off from their brand.....I dont get it.
Bought the disc drive when sony announced the PS5 Pro and planning to buy it.wait are people having issues with this? I just ordered one with my PS5 Pro and it came before it did.
Just buy it on ebay!Hot take. There’s a shortage intentionally from Sony.
Internal ssd will outlive disc drive.Good luck WHEN internal SSD breaks.
Physical is the best advantage of consoles vs. PC. Once that is gone PC market is much better when it comes to digital games than greedy Sony. You have one store and zero options for refunds on PS.
Fuck off with advice like that.
Lack of competition? They are anti consumer as fuck, I was their fanboy for years but it really doesn't make any sense, anymore...
People are defending EVERY anti consumer decision they make, they are that loyal, while sony fuck them in the ass.
Hot take. There’s a shortage intentionally from Sony.
Forces more people to switch into PC gaming or Nintendo.
I'd be interested to know if any old external BluRay drive would work? You're in the UK so take a look at Scan and test it if it doesn't work just return the drive.
The content isn't being streamed from these blurays anymore as it's installed to the SSD and they only use the disc to auth the license so USB drive should work no?
Who?Some EU based retailers are expecting new shipments in late Nov
You didn't pre order one with your ps5 pro pre order?They were making Pro consoles for months now, why not make disc drives at the same time? They were dumb enough to think no one would want one?
Sure by that logic they wanted to buy a PS5 but it was out of stock and they had to settle for a series s at launch. And never looked for a PS5 ever again. I mean yes there's prob some people on planet Earth that did that. But it's not common. Somethings not available, they wait, it becomes available, they buy. Now a series s, there is no disc option, so they truly are locked into a digital only platform.If you think every single soul who wants a disc drive will want one in months when they finally get stock that's your prerogative.
Some will still get one and some won't and then there's others who will just accept that's it's a digital console and not even bother.
It's much like when phones started losing the headphone jacks, now it's the norm. This is just a slow transition to the inevitable future... sadly.
Or demand for the PS5 pro is healthy and many of those buyers want a disk drive to play their physical collection despite a bunch of folk claiming we need to immediately embrace our "glorious all digital future"?Hot take. There’s a shortage intentionally from Sony.
Internal ssd will outlive disc drive.
It's anecdotal but I never had any ssd fail on me yet
You didn't pre order one with your ps5 pro pre order?
Most people buying digital are buying into the ability to redownload. I don't think anyone is claiming harddrives are going to last forever. The point of digital is your whole house can burn to the ground and all you need to do is pick up a $500 console and log in and you got all the rest there.It WILL happen, SSDs are not known for durability.
I don't think you could change the old disc drive as they are keyed together with some serial number.It WILL happen, SSDs are not known for durability. Probably x years from now but SSD is used all the time while disc drive only when installing games and starting them for a moment.
When SSD dies you need to change whole motherboard, when disc drives dies in old PS5 you only need to change disc drive part.
Pre order Pro to play old patched games? This is what people are doing right now. I played all those games before on PC or PS5.
I play Metaphor now, on disc... Pro in current form is useless peace of hardware for me. And it's a shame because Metaphor has nice fps upgrade.
Once some big ass exclusive launches and disc drive situation is sorted, why not?
Most people buying digital are buying into the ability to redownload. I don't think anyone is claiming harddrives are going to last forever. The point of digital is your whole house can burn to the ground and all you need to do is pick up a $500 console and log in and you got all the rest there.
I don't think you could change the old disc drive as they are keyed together with some serial number.
Ok, you keep believing physical games on consoles is here to stay. Enjoy your collection of unusable discs.Fuck off with advice like that
My guy, the way you all up in these PS5 Pro threads acting like some salty ass femaleGood luck WHEN internal SSD breaks.
Physical is the best advantage of consoles vs. PC. Once that is gone PC market is much better when it comes to digital games than greedy Sony. You have one store and zero options for refunds on PS.
Fuck off with advice like that.
Lack of competition? They are anti consumer as fuck, I was their fanboy for years but it really doesn't make any sense, anymore...
People are defending EVERY anti consumer decision they make, they are that loyal, while sony fuck them in the ass.
Point is, you need to essentialy buy new console because SSD is soldered to MB. On PS4 you just needed to change HDD, the same on PC.
If PS6 doesn't have a physical version I'm going to have to seriously consider leaving Sony as a customer.Sony wants you to buy thier games digitally more than physically which make me fear that they gonna pull the same crap with PS6.
At least I can easily ignore Pro because it’s not really new system, I won’t miss out on games if I don’t get Pro.
With PS6 is different story, I hope they don't fucking do this again.
Nope, that doesn't work. It would have been too easy.I'd be interested to know if any old external BluRay drive would work? You're in the UK so take a look at Scan and test it if it doesn't work just return the drive.
The content isn't being streamed from these blurays anymore as it's installed to the SSD and they only use the disc to auth the license so USB drive should work no?
Ok, you keep believing physical games on consoles is here to stay. Enjoy your collection of unusable discs.
My guy, the way you all up in these PS5 Pro threads acting like some salty ass female
That's actually a decent point but the SSDs should be reliable enough to last the lifecycle.
But that would be a decent enough reason to say avoid buying a used PS5 when the PS6 is released.
Point is, you need to essentialy buy new console because SSD is soldered to MB. On PS4 you just needed to change HDD, the same on PC.
I presume Sony could pretty easily release a firmware update that allows the PS5 to run off of the expansion drive. I think this is a bit of fear-mongering which isn't particularly new from you. Worst case scenario, the out of warranty repair on these is like 250.
If PS6 doesn't have a physical version I'm going to have to seriously consider leaving Sony as a customer.
There's litterally nothing good about digital aside from the small convenience of not disc changing.
All the details on the PS5 Pro were leaked months before it was officially on sale.
If you're a customer who has to have something on launch, you should have taken steps.
It is absolutely your problem.
It wasn't one day, it was weeks.
I just bought one from gamestop, I had to join pro which cost $10.I dunno.. it is more convenient, don't have to go out or deal with shipping. And the main attraction of physical (getting the game decently cheaper) isn't as easy as it w
Whatever they do there is always fear mongering and cries of 'anticonsumer' by these folk. The craziest thing about this new conspiracy by these PC regulars is that at the launch of PS5 people were saying that they were anticonsumer because the digital edition PS5 console was artificially not being supplied enough vs the disc version "because they wanted to make $100 more on the PS5 disc edition", of course. Even though they would have locked them entirely into digital "where they would make much more money", correct? Now though the anticonsumer move is NOT making $100 more and very temporarily locking them into digital with the choice of going physical whenever they want.I presume Sony could pretty easily release a firmware update that allows the PS5 to run off of the expansion drive. I think this is a bit of fear-mongering which isn't particularly new from you. Worst case scenario, the out of warranty repair on these is like 250.
Whatever they do there is always fear mongering and cries of 'anticonsumer' by these folk. The craziest thing about this new conspiracy by these PC regulars is that at the launch of PS5 people were saying that they were anticonsumer because the digital edition PS5 console was artificially not being supplied enough vs the disc version "because they wanted to make $100 more on the PS5 disc edition of course". Even though they would have entirely locked them entirely into digital "where they would make much more money"? Now though the anticonsumer move is NOT making $100 more and temporarily locking them into digital with the choice of going physical whenever they want.
You couldn't make this shit up.
Did I blame the consumer for anything? Nope. Just Scalpers. But your "anticonsumer" conspiracy still doesn't make any sense and is even completely contradictory to previous conspiracies of so called "anticonsumer" behaviour during launch.People like having choice, who would have thought? Limited supply of one version/disc drive/analog stick will always be bad when demand is high. Sony is fucking up and all blame is on consumers, you guys are like Ubisoft CEO lol.
Did I blame the consumer for anything? Nope. Just Scalpers. But your "anticonsumer" conspiracy still doesn't make any sense and is even completely contradictory to previous conspiracies of so called "anticonsumer" behaviour during launch.
So you actually believe that at the same time?! Who would have thought!I wasn't here when consoles launched but Sony was losing money on every unit sold and they were losing MORE money on DE consoles, 500$ disc edition was less painful for them. It would be logical for them to limit supply of DE consoles.
Everything you said is just your opinion. And who said anything about having to be a cheerleader? If you dont agree with something fine whatever. But what you doing is going to every PS5 Pro thread yapping non stop about shit that dont affect you. How fucking sad is it that you got major bitch eating crackers energy for a game console lmaoAm I wrong about something? You mean you can only be a cheerleader on this forum?
Maybe not you but some said that consumers should have bought drives 6 months ago when they were available, that people that didn't even know that Pro will be digital only at the time are at fault...
I wasn't here when consoles launched but Sony was losing money on every unit sold and they were losing MORE money on DE consoles, 500$ disc edition was less painful for them. It would be logical for them to limit supply of DE consoles.
So you actually believe that at the same time?! Who would have thought!
They were charging $100 less for removal of the disc drive (meaning even less cost on BOM). Guess how much they're losing by not selling a £100 disc drive now. More than $100. "Oh but they would make more than that back because people would have to buy digital for a few weeks". But they wouldn't have on a launch PS5 digital that's locked into it for life? Craziness. The situation is shitty with stock and scalpers but your conspiracies are nonsensical.
As Bloomberg reports, Sony made the announcement alongside raising its fiscal-year profit forecast. However, there's still some work to do to make the cheaper, $399 Digital Edition of the PS5 profitable. Right now, Sony says any loss made on that console is being offset through peripherals and continued sales of the PS4 console. This situation may also be helped by the fact Sony is making a lighter version of the PS5 Digital Edition.
Imagine making up an entire fantasy when there is evidence to the contrary.
6 months? We knew in August and it was confirmed early in September. There was a thread that shit was selling out.
Sony raised the price of the Digital PS5 (something that I called before it happened). While you think it is logical for them to limit the supply, the reality is you're talking small ball. Drives will be back in stock in December and January, and by spring, no one will ever care that it was sold out at launch, nor will it have any real impact on digital vs physical game sales.
Why are you posting this? Nobody disputes that there was a loss on consoles but your conspiracy theory relies on the idea that Sony is happy to lose £100 sales by not supplying disc drives because they would make more than that back by "forcing" people to go digital (for a few weeks). The launch DE PS5 would have a lower BOM cost so Sony would have to recoup even less than $100 from "forcing" a lifetime of digital only sales in comparison with launch digital only PS5s. Yet you believe they favoured the less than $100 extra upfront from selling a disc version console. You dont seem to see how contradictory these two ideas of yours are.Sony Says $499 PS5 No Longer Sells at a Loss
Sony has also managed to secure enough chips to hit its 22 million console sales target this fiscal year.www.pcmag.com
Why are you posting this? Nobody disputes that there was a loss on consoles but your conspiracy theory relies on the idea that Sony is happy to lose £100 sales by not supplying disc drives because they would make more than that back by "forcing" people to go digital (for a few weeks). The launch DE PS5 would have a lower BOM cost so Sony would have to recoup even less than $100 from "forcing" a lifetime of digital only sales in comparison. Yet you believe they favoured the less than $100 extra upfront from selling a disc version console. You dont seem to see how contradictory these two ideas of yours are.
You guys are just getting played, Sony is deliberately limiting the supply of drives to increase digital downloads at full price rather than second hand copies of games.
I dont understand whats up with Sony this gen, they are making some weird anti-consumer choices as if they actively want turn people off from their brand.....I dont get it.