Professor Beef
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A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
WesternHeretic
Member
It's confirmed that Chavelo requested to ban himself for a month.
I didn't think GAF could be that addicting where you would have to ban yourself...
It's kind of useless IMO.
If your that addicted, it's likely you know how to clear your cookies/switch browsers and simply browse.
That makes the pain of not being able to post even worse though.
Professor Beef
Banned
GAF can be a real timesink. I found myself playing more videogames during my two-week ban.
Yeah I cleared my cookies too, but not being able to post made me stop going until my ban was over.
It's really no joke, GAF really is anti-productivity personified.
Every time I get banned I get the most shit done ever.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
I just complained on twitter when I got banned.
I ONLY post in this thread right now. Probably because it's such a good environment. I sometimes lurk other fighting game threads if I need specific help in another fighting game though.
On the "to do " list as of now
Awwwwwww yeeeeeeeaaaaaah.
I have seen more than a few users do it. Not all that uncommon.
You can still lurk gaf if you are banned so whatever.
Karsticles
Member
@Chavelo: Are we still on for games tomorrow (Friday)? Send me a PSN message. I'll turn the system on in the morning (10AM-ish).
[/quote]The first few 2D Rayman games are stellar and a couple of the 3D Rayman games are great. It's a platformer but it's not a Mario rip off unless you also qualify Sonic and other mascot games to be Mario rip offs too. The first few Raymans are challenging games and remind me of the old school difficulty that is lost in modern games. The newer Rayman games I have no interest in though.[/quote]
How is Sonic not just an inferior Mario rip-off?
Let's go!
I care about gameplay more than anything in a game. Gameplay where you push a button and some flashy semi-QTE happens just doesn't appeal to me. You might as well go all the way to watching an interactive film at that point. I'd rather bounce on goombas all day than suffer through one fight in Arkham Asylum.
Hmm? I thought I said that I was impressed with the demo in my post. It was actually pretty enjoyable, just not the kind of game that I felt the need to play through. I can respect this as a game.
I just think the combat is button-mashy crap. It's an interactive film for kids that want to be "hardcore".
If the game is fun, I'm fine with something like this. I might try one eventually.
I'll eventually play a Tales game. Hopefully I can tell whether the main character is a guy or a girl.
Naturally!
I saw gameplay and thought "I'm glad I dodged that bullet".
Amazing game.
My sister always does this...good game.
Pure trash.
Mediocre, not particularly memorable.
The only Final Fantasy I got too bored to finish, and had to force myself to go back. So terrible, but not so terrible it makes you ashamed to be playing it like 8.
I'm "eh" about trying this one. I've never seen anything that makes me think "I am missing something by not playing this".
Generally awful character designs and boring movesets. Janky hitboxes that look like all the characters are attached to puppet strings while a little kid jerks them around as they get hit.
I just thought the combat was awful. I also hate the "choices" that get made in WRPGs, and the blank-slate character I always have to play.
I have the RE1make. I'll play it eventually to see what's what.
Combat lacks substance, looks like a QTE fest.
I eventually shall!
I played the demo for 3 and was impressed with how terrible it all was. The definition of style over substance.
[/quote]The first few 2D Rayman games are stellar and a couple of the 3D Rayman games are great. It's a platformer but it's not a Mario rip off unless you also qualify Sonic and other mascot games to be Mario rip offs too. The first few Raymans are challenging games and remind me of the old school difficulty that is lost in modern games. The newer Rayman games I have no interest in though.[/quote]
How is Sonic not just an inferior Mario rip-off?
One day I'll play them all.
I wish Capcom would understand that franchises aren't dead because we don't buy them. It means they need to figure their crap out.
Why do people love it so much?
That's generally how I feel about them, minus having tried it.
The real problem is that movie games aren't memorable, just like most modern movies. I can't think of any movies released in the last few years that I'd say "you have to see this!" Ghostbusters, on the other hand...
I'll get to Dark Souls eventually. LOVED Demon's Souls.
What's wrong with it?
I have REmake. I'll see how things go after there. I played the Revelaitions demo and thought it was enjoyable.
I'll play it when I can get the MPT.
Why?
Why?
I played DMC1 and thought the game was poorly designed because I could just gun everything to death. Frankly, I just didn't get the game at the young age I played it at. I plan on giving it another shot with a more mature mindset.
How about RE1/MP1/DMC1? I don't play games in the middle of the series - I care about the characters and story development.
Hahahaha.
The only benefit to getting banned from GAF is you don't have to suffer the urge to respond to people in the OT forum.
Professor Beef
Banned
Nothing about Shenmue is popular. :3
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Aren't videogames just QTEs?
It was the first big title game to have it but RE4 and GoW popularize it. I am sure some shitty unknown game probably had it first but it's usually accredited to Shenmue.
I don't want to say much about MGS because usually it usually involves numerous spoilers and a MGS game spoiled is basically a death sentence for enjoyment. But I have to give an example of what I am talking about:
In MGS3 there is this famous sniper boss fight. It takes place in a lavish jungle and the sniper is camouflaged to the environment. And when I say camouflaged I literally fucking mean it... you can't see shit. You have all these equipments on your ranging from binoculars, a sniper of your own that you can acquire, tranquilizers, claymore mines and a thermal vision goggle. The game doesn't tell you how to find him, the only help you get is that when the sniper clocks you from behind his last known location is marked on your map and that's it. You have to figure out how to beat this fight and there are numerous ways to beat it. It takes an average player an hour or more to figure this battle out... I am not even kidding.
This boss fight is among the pinnacle of boss fight design. You cannot experience this in any other game, this is exclusively a MGS experience. There are other similar experiences in MGS, like when you figure out how to beat Psycho Mantis (a gimmick but still fascinating).
No because there were no QTEs back when I was playing SMB3 on the NES. It's basically a scripted event in the game that the player has to progress through by pressing various on screen prompts. Like the boulder chase in RE4 or following the button inputs in GoW during a finishing kill.
Karsticles
Member
QTEs are basically interactive cutscenes. For certain games, used sparingly they are interesting and some what refreshing. The best example of a QTE used right is the Krauser cutscene in RE4. Without the QTEs it would just be a cutscene you would watch or skip over but with the QTEs it's a more engrossing experience. When they are plastered all over the game play it takes you out of the actual game but nothing reminds you that you are playing a video game like a giant X shining over some bosses' head.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSCheXIaXmk
I haven't played Shenmue but I would wager that it wasn't a game play heavy type game. It's not a VF so it could work with QTE.
Yes there are of course people like this because they simply are not exposed to enough games. If you have played just one game with a QTE in it you wouldn't mind it... but the more you play it the more sick you get of it. I can't imagine anyone enjoying this though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSCheXIaXmk
Karsticles
Member
Wow, that RE6 video is impressively bad.
Does Wesker return?
Does Wesker return?
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
No but his made up son does.
Also asked my RE nut of a friend and even he didn't get RE6.
Also asked my RE nut of a friend and even he didn't get RE6.
WOW. And I thought the QuickLook for this game was bad.
They existed before-hand. The Die Hard arcade game had them here and there.
He has a lab son that is in the game. His name is Jake.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
I'd say Dragon's Lair counts. The entire game was QTEs.
What team do you guys think would maximize hate mail? I think this one would be up there. All 3 characters are pretty hated.
I haven't played the games so I can't say. But Shenmue's soundtrack is godlike.
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Team configs
Changing up the colors and assist back for my main team.
Parallax Scroll
Banned
I don't think it's deserved, but it seems like people (especially online) still complain more about Phoenix than Vergil. I can see people getting salty over that Vergil team too though.
Karsticles
Member
No one really hates Morrigan without Hidden Missiles, though.I'd say Dragon's Lair counts. The entire game was QTEs.
What team do you guys think would maximize hate mail? I think this one would be up there. All 3 characters are pretty hated.
Here's my experience:
Firebrand/Dormammu/Morrigan
"Wow, amazing Firebrand and Dormammu!"
Firebrand/Dormammu/Hidden Missiles
"Your Dormammu is ass."
Both usually while winning. I think the choice is clear. Nothing pisses people off more than Hidden Missiles.
Great matches Frantic. Your Dante is a lot more aggro than I remembered it ws last free live weekend. :lol
Meanwhile, for the rest of the thread, I fixed the document a bit more. Still doesn't feel "right" but it's getting there and the info is all good.
Meanwhile, for the rest of the thread, I fixed the document a bit more. Still doesn't feel "right" but it's getting there and the info is all good.
GGs, Azure. Really, the only thing I can really critique is your defense, which in this game is something that comes with a lot of experience... and getting opened up is inevitable in the game, but you get hit by things you really shouldn't. I would suggest holding down back as much as possible if I'm on the ground, and react to anything overhead. I caught you walking back a few times after you pushblock, and I could just dash up into a low.
I'm trying to think of some other things, but... oh, your X-Factors. You made a lot of bad X-Factors(namely burning it to kill a character with Viper after a EX Thunder Knuckle) when it's better to just save it in those situations. If you've got two characters, that's one thing, but I don't like burning it against the first character. I'd also look into easier X-Factor combos with all your characters, especially HB combos. Feels like you were going for difficult combos when you could just ease it up and get the same results.
Refining your incoming mixups would be good, too. I don't like using the Million Carats mixups off anything but a snapback, especially if I have Acid Rain mixups available.
Can't really think of much else right now. I'm too tired and hungry. Sorry. X_X
Still have a way to go before my pressure is 'perfect', though. I leave too many gaps in my pressure, and autopilot too much resulting in losing my ability to pressure when I shouldn't.
Also, my Spencer has become ass after not playing him for like six months. So terrible with him, now.
I'm trying to think of some other things, but... oh, your X-Factors. You made a lot of bad X-Factors(namely burning it to kill a character with Viper after a EX Thunder Knuckle) when it's better to just save it in those situations. If you've got two characters, that's one thing, but I don't like burning it against the first character. I'd also look into easier X-Factor combos with all your characters, especially HB combos. Feels like you were going for difficult combos when you could just ease it up and get the same results.
Refining your incoming mixups would be good, too. I don't like using the Million Carats mixups off anything but a snapback, especially if I have Acid Rain mixups available.
Can't really think of much else right now. I'm too tired and hungry. Sorry. X_X
I like how the partner in the last clip just stands there watching as Leon is pushed into a fan blade and grinded into bits.
I've become a lot more aggressive with Dante recently, mainly because Dante can pressure people for days. I will still lame people out depending on the matchup, but those are usually projectileless characters. It also depends on the player style, too. If they're aggressive, I'll play more zoning/patient and then go into pressure when they block something. If they're more zoning/keepaway, I'll play more aggressive from the start.AzureJericho said:
Still have a way to go before my pressure is 'perfect', though. I leave too many gaps in my pressure, and autopilot too much resulting in losing my ability to pressure when I shouldn't.
Also, my Spencer has become ass after not playing him for like six months. So terrible with him, now.
I really like playing Viper's neutral game btw. Seismos and beams all day. It was so funny that one early match seeing how well it worked when I couldn't even keep the pressure up.
Yeah, I was actually catching onto that habit and trying to stop it as best as I could in a few rounds. Clearly it wasn't enough of the time as a lot of character KOs came from that.
A lot of those X-Factors at the beginning were supposed to be getting rid of problems. I knew I couldn't let your Dante stick around, Spencers are cancer to me, and everyone knows how much I hate me some Vergil. The biggest problem I was having was with dropped inputs really. So many times I would go for my Seismo L and get a s.L in exchange. Then there's all the dropped Box Dash j.Hs...
And then I feel like a fucking retard right now because I just remembered TK Burn Kick was an option to avoid the j.H stuff. I even looked into that previously just because I hated how finicky box dash H is for me sometimes. -_-
I really should go more simple especially since Acid Rain never stopped being cool to me. I was just kinda thinking about how much I wanted to get that mixup down tonight and went all in. On that note, how about that epic full screen kara dash under Akuma's fireball super as he was coming in, only to put out Million Carats and cross myself up for Million Dollars instead of the Devil Trigger cancel?
I just loved that exchange so much visually.
On another note, care to explain to me what that one mixup with the MH-Teleport is all about? No matter how many times I tried to understand it in the moment, my mind fried and just took a guess based on how many things were going left versus right and if Strider was around.
I seriously need to figure out how to be more aggressive. It's just that I feel like I lose waaaaay more matches when I'm the aggressor than when I'm not. There's that and the idea that my only competition up until this point is a true UOP/nut which has conditioned me to try and be as defensive as possible playing against someone else's stuff.
Speaking of, I have to say, my brother is the luckiest person on Earth confirmed. How did that Volcano launch your point Dante and the assist Strider OTG when he was in between both of you only to magically get a Prop Shredder that lifted both your characters into the air for Hammer - Volcano again - Million Dollars for the first match?
I was in tears on my end just thinking to myself how he gets these kinds of wins.
Yeah, I was actually catching onto that habit and trying to stop it as best as I could in a few rounds. Clearly it wasn't enough of the time as a lot of character KOs came from that.
A lot of those X-Factors at the beginning were supposed to be getting rid of problems. I knew I couldn't let your Dante stick around, Spencers are cancer to me, and everyone knows how much I hate me some Vergil. The biggest problem I was having was with dropped inputs really. So many times I would go for my Seismo L and get a s.L in exchange. Then there's all the dropped Box Dash j.Hs...
And then I feel like a fucking retard right now because I just remembered TK Burn Kick was an option to avoid the j.H stuff. I even looked into that previously just because I hated how finicky box dash H is for me sometimes. -_-
I really should go more simple especially since Acid Rain never stopped being cool to me. I was just kinda thinking about how much I wanted to get that mixup down tonight and went all in. On that note, how about that epic full screen kara dash under Akuma's fireball super as he was coming in, only to put out Million Carats and cross myself up for Million Dollars instead of the Devil Trigger cancel?
I just loved that exchange so much visually.
On another note, care to explain to me what that one mixup with the MH-Teleport is all about? No matter how many times I tried to understand it in the moment, my mind fried and just took a guess based on how many things were going left versus right and if Strider was around.
I seriously need to figure out how to be more aggressive. It's just that I feel like I lose waaaaay more matches when I'm the aggressor than when I'm not. There's that and the idea that my only competition up until this point is a true UOP/nut which has conditioned me to try and be as defensive as possible playing against someone else's stuff.
Speaking of, I have to say, my brother is the luckiest person on Earth confirmed. How did that Volcano launch your point Dante and the assist Strider OTG when he was in between both of you only to magically get a Prop Shredder that lifted both your characters into the air for Hammer - Volcano again - Million Dollars for the first match?
I was in tears on my end just thinking to myself how he gets these kinds of wins.
I figured it was missed inputs, but I figured I'd tell ya anyways.
I don't know if you noticed it, but I have an incoming mixup that's really dirty off Acid Rain mid-screen. It's basically this:
1) Throw out Acid Rain
2) Call assist
3) Either dash under, or fake a dash under.
4) Acid Rain will hit. They'll either be hit, or they'll block.
5) At the end of my dash, I do a box dash j.H with Dante. This covers two things. If they get hit, j.H will combo and I can continue comboing. If they block, they'll land and I'll sail over their head just as the assist hits, crossing them up. If they didn't block the Acid Rain, the assist will continue the combo.
6) If they managed to block that, I can go high/low, or another left/right with a box dash.
It's simple, it combos in every situation, and it's REALLY hard to block. Don't know why I didn't think of it sooner.
If you blocked the MH and I teleport, I'll end up behind you. If you pushblocked the MH, and I teleport, I'll end up in front of you. At least, I think that's what you're talking about?
I don't know how that happened, but I laughed at it. Wasn't even salty. I turned up my offense with Wesker after that, though.
Raw tag at the start of the round is unblockable.
Karsticles
Member
On those rare occasions when I have the wrong character on point, raw tagging at the start has never failed me.
My brother literally told me some shit he does that's infuriatingly good because I know it would work on me. Basically, open of match gambit is a hard tag because no one expects it. When they get conditioned into it, he walks up and grabs them because they want to play defensively against the tag.
I'm there like "this is inspired levels of scumbag". :lol
Edit: Sorry to be a bother, but what about my Strider Frantic?
I think I'm going to raw tag at the beginning of any online match where my opponent walks toward me at the beginning of the round for a while and see how much mileage I can get off of it. Raw tags being invincible and an overhead is really dumb sometimes. At least you can't (normally) combo off of them.
Karsticles
Member
They aren't invincible, they just have large-ish hitboxes. If you're facing Hulk, he'll smash you just fine when you try that tactic.
It's a neat gimmick, but the problem is you lose a character if your opponent blocks.
Hmm... I would suggest going for slightly longer combos, then going for reset. When you throw out projectiles, approach behind them more often. Pressure with staggered cr.Ls, go for Wall Clings > Dive Kick > Excalibur L every once in a while to keep people on their toes. Throw out a Formation before using a Gram to zone. Throwing Formation A1 > the heavy sword dash isn't a bad way to approach, either.
Can't really remember much else. Sorry. >_<
How salty was your bro, btw? lol
I thought they were briefly invincible? Hulk gets to press buttons because armor can eat the single hit, no?
Karsticles
Member
They definitely don't have invincibility until they hit, at least. I've traded with plenty of raw tags in the past.
Honestly, I knew I was stealing that Wall Cling mixup on block, that shit was busteeeed looking. I didn't even know Strider had so much advantage on block to do wall cling - ladder kick - Excalibur on the opposite side.
As for my brother, he straight up got to the point where he was fighting me saying "FUCK THAT SHIT, I WANT A WIN" when I asked him for the controller back. Even more hilarious was at the end when he got his Dark Vergil comeback, he says out loud "I just realized that I only got two wins from him while you got 4 or so."
As if I wasn't supposed to win that many. :lol
As for my brother, he straight up got to the point where he was fighting me saying "FUCK THAT SHIT, I WANT A WIN" when I asked him for the controller back. Even more hilarious was at the end when he got his Dark Vergil comeback, he says out loud "I just realized that I only got two wins from him while you got 4 or so."
As if I wasn't supposed to win that many. :lol
The more you know. I wonder if there's a pic of the hitbox floating around from the vita version somewhere.
I'm pretty sure it can be airthrown, but it's really hard to do it from my experience. Even when I play other Striders and watch for it, I've never been able to airthrow him. Throw in an assist and it's safer as well as harder to block.
Haha, that's some salt. I blew up a lot of Helm Breakers when I played him. Sure loved them Helm Breakers.
Are you implying they may have invincibility after they hit?
I thought they didn't have invincibility at all and you could get snuffed by an assist or something.
I think he was implying that they may have invincibility before the hit, but from the hit onwards they definitely aren't invincible.
Karsticles
Member
I'll make myself more clear:
If raw tags have any invincibility at all, it's certainly not around the time the raw tag hits. In other words, if invincibility does exist, it would have to be for a few frames at the start, or something. Though, I've had enough people raw tag into Chaotic Flame that I doubt any invincibility frames exist at all.
SolarKnight
Member
Ok, so who is going to be able to play tomorrow night on XBL? I could really use some last minute training before this weekend's major. I need the practice more for SFIV and KoF, but eh, I pretty much only entered those to help the community.
Karsticles
Member
I feel so unloved on the PS3 side. :-(
I just have God's Beard's lagtastic connection, Chavelo is banned, and Panda lacks stamina.
I just have God's Beard's lagtastic connection, Chavelo is banned, and Panda lacks stamina.