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Watch_Dogs reviews

Chev

Member
the environment is pointless to explore
Oh come on, there's tons of interesting things to find through exploration. You even can solve an old abandoned serial murder case for yourself using a newspaper clipping as a starting point and exploration and observation, which is awesome. And that's not even delving into the whole UFO conspiracy thing.
 

kiaaa

Member
Ok cool. So you've never played it but you're attempting to discredit a review by using assumptions and guesswork?

Ubisoft doesn't exactly have an innovative track record when it comes to their open world games. It wouldn't surprise me if he was right.
 

Xater

Member
Well, I have two hangups here. One, I saw plenty of disappointment when GTAV came out. This was before the recent "downgrade" blowup, so it wasn't as loud, but the game definitely got its share of hate for falling short on a lot of promises.

Two, it's entirely possible to enjoy shitty media. I love the Transformers and Fast and Furious series, but they don't even approach "good" relative to other movies. I'd never give them a 7+ out of 10 because they entertain me.

Whoa! Don't put these films in the same group as that Transformers filth. The Fast series has legitimately good films while the Transformers series doesn't.
 

foxbeldin

Member
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Ok cool. So you've never played it but you're attempting to discredit a review by using assumptions and guesswork?

First, I don't discredit the reviews but the game itself.
Secondly, I don't hide the fact that my statement is based on assumptions
Thirdly, my assumptions are based on similar games of the same developer
Last, I use data provided by people that actually played the game.

I really don't see the actual problem here.
 
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Game of da mother****** year!!!

If a similar gif of Watch_Dogs had been posted in the lead-up to to release the only reaction to it would be "what is up with that road texture"
People expect a substantial improvement in graphics going from one console generation to the next, especially when said generations are 8 years apart.

Who knew.
 

Seanspeed

Banned
I don't know. The scores seem overwhelming, but the actual reviews make me kinda suspicous.

Jeux Video: "with a slight disappointment on the story"
CeX: "pouring hours upon hours into"
T4Mag: "sinlge-player campaign running anywhere between 30-35 hours"
Gameblog: "a scenario we wish was more engaging, or a repetitive aspect for the rougher players"

Seems to be a typical ubisoft game.
To be fair, its not hard to find a single named flaw from 4 different reviews for any sort of open-world game. I could do the same for Red Dead Redemption or any other highly acclaimed game.

I think people are just working with a lot of confirmation bias here, as often happens in review threads, and that goes for people on either side of the fence.

Gameblog is not unknown.
I haven't heard of it and plenty of others seemingly haven't heard of it, or consider it some small-time site.

We'll see. It doesn't automatically discredit these reviews, but I will remain cautious.
 
Oh come on, there's tons of interesting things to find through exploration. You even can solve an old abandoned serial murder case for yourself using a newspaper clipping as a starting point and exploration and observation, which is awesome. And that's not even delving into the whole UFO conspiracy thing.

I read about both of those in the lead up and was super excited. Can't say I've spent a whole lot of time with GTAV after the first playthrough - played it for about three hours yesterday just searching for something interesting. Noticeable things I found:

I found a fruit stand.

and a drainage gate.

and a train if I'm honest, but that wasn't too hard to miss.
 
People expect a substantial improvement in graphics going from one console generation to the next, especially when said generations are 8 years apart.

Who knew.

And there is one, people just need to temper their expectations for a cross-gen game and not go insane because it doesn't look exactly like target footage from 2012.
 
To be fair, its not hard to find a single named flaw from 4 different reviews for any sort of open-world game. I could do the same for Red Dead Redemption or any other highly acclaimed game.

I think people are just working with a lot of confirmation bias here, as often happens in review threads, and that goes for people on either side of the fence.

Well, here's the thing. I've never been particularly interested in Watchdogs. Unlike AC or FarCry, the setup never grabbed me. But, I have no doubt it's a "good" game. In the sense that Maytag is a "good" washer or that Vizio makes a "good" TV.

Until reviewing moves from a Consumer Reports message to a actual film review message, then I have no problems with AAA games mainly getting good scores. But, I have a funny feeling that if we moved totally to a world where game reviews were closer to film reviews, the people who hate reviews still wouldn't like it, because they'd even be more subjective and honestly, the winners would probably be small indie "non-games" like Gone Home instead of whatever "gameplay" first game is the belle of the ball.
 

Joco

Member
Well I'm getting this regardless of reviews. My PS4 has been in desperate need of a new title and now that I'm wrapping up my second playthrough in inFamous: Second Son, Watch Dogs is (hopefully) the game that holds me over for a good portion of the summer.
 
Doen't mean much. Until the fix is out it's impossible to know if it actually fixes anything. There's no reason to better a grade for something that might be better later
I didn't mean to imply that it should be better. Just a question mainly. If it fixes or makes it worse, these reviews should stat that. By the time we get this game we will have the patched version. So parts of these reviews should be revised.
 
Wow.. Nothing good? Let me make a note of your name cause your views on gaming is absolute shit

Cool, make sure you remember that my name has a capital B and a capital C.

Yea poor gamers, silly sheep having fun with their ACs, Child of Lights, Far Crys, and Splinter Cells. I'm very happy to see yet another Ubisoft published new IP reviewing well so far. Can't wait for the "official" reviews. Two days left.

Assassins Creed is poor series. Child of Light is a good game, sure. Far Cry 3 while decent didn't really hit with me. Splinter Cell should've stopped 2 generations ago because they've been terrible ever since.

I mean shit, sorry if my opinion, on games you like may not be up to your standard but dats how it goes doe, bro. Nice avatar too.

inb4 IGN, Polygon and others get labelled as shills when they give Watch_Dogs that 9+

I highly doubt this game will get bad reviews. But this game is far from a low score or wroth being shat on. The thing is, it's all irrelevant anyway. The game will still sell amazingly well regardless of what scores Watch_Dogs gets.

CEX? we're letting thrift stores full of stolen merch review games now?

lol, what a sad day.

If you want, you can trade in the review for a fake Wii Remote?

I didn't mean to imply that it should be better. Just a question mainly. If it fixes or makes it worse, these reviews should stat that. By the time we get this game we will have the patched version. So parts of these reviews should be revised.

Should the game be reviewed based on it's initial shipping though? If it's shipped broken or buggy, shouldn't people know instead of revising it?
 

Staab

Member
You guys are so defensive over every little thing and so goddamn jaded.

Can't we just enjoy a good looking game with an interesting take on the open world genre and applaud Ubisoft for taking a dig at it in a "SciFi" setting ?

If it plays well, looks decent and lasts a good while, what in the world do you keep complaining about ? Just enjoy it !

And don't buy it if you're not happy with it, no one's forcing you to, but stop dragging it through the mud at every little occasion before having even played it.
 

BenouKat

Banned
I haven't heard of it and plenty of others seemingly haven't heard of it, or consider it some small-time site.

We'll see. It doesn't automatically discredit these reviews, but I will remain cautious.

Gameblog is again engaged into a twitter drama today, they doesn't sign the NDA and says "We're independaaaaant, we buy Watch_Dogs like everyone to not be influenced", but another journalist claims Gameblog have the Press PS4 version since 10 days.

French video game press is amazing.
 

kiaaa

Member
You guys are so defensive over every little thing and so goddamn jaded.

Can't we just enjoy a good looking game with an interesting take on the open world genre and applaud Ubisoft for taking a dig at it in a "SciFi" setting ?

If it plays well, looks decent and lasts a good while, what in the world do you keep complaining about ? Just enjoy it !

And don't buy it if you're not happy with it, no one's forcing you to, but stop dragging it through the mud at every little occasion before having even played it.

I don't understand this submissive attitude some people have. Ubisoft didn't made this game out of the good of their hearts. They made it because they know it's going to sell regardless of quality.
 
Should the game be reviewed based on it's initial shipping though? If it's shipped broken or buggy, shouldn't people know instead of revising it?
I don't know, all I know is the DD should be already patched when I download it. That is the version I am curious about.

edit: I'm not trying to defend this game, It's just how I feel with all releases. Most games seem to be a " beta" for journalist to review, then the devs give us customers a day one patch.
 
Gameblog is again engaged into a twitter drama today, they doesn't sign the NDA and says "We're independaaaaant, we buy Watch_Dogs like everyone to not be influenced", but another journalist claims Gameblog have the Press PS4 version since 10 days.

French video game press is amazing.

wow, that would be a "you are dead to me" moment in my book. How big is gameblog?
 

BenouKat

Banned
JeuxVideo is pretty reliable, no?

JeuxVideo Magasine in France has the same reputation as jeuxvideo.com website. Mainstream review with mainstream doriros with mainstream marks.

A well-marketed AAA will hace always 18+. Plus in this case, they offer Watch_Dogs if you subscribe for the mag for a year... The offer is just after the review. Soooo.... :p
 

BenouKat

Banned
wow, that would be a "you are dead to me" moment in my book. How big is gameblog?

Gameblog is one of the four main videogame website in France with jeuxvideo.com, gamekult and jeuxactu (not sure of which one is the forth..)

But I think they get the worst reputation, their article are full of title that french called "click bitch" (Tabloid title, nothing in the article), and the main redactor is an horrible arrogant person which claim his "independant jounalism" but he's considered as the french dorito pope.

This is how gameblog is seen by majority of french gamers.
 
Gameblog is one of the four main videogame website in France with jeuxvideo.com, gamekult and jeuxactu (not sure of which one is the forth..)

But I think they get the worst reputation, their article are full of title that french called "click bitch" (Tabloid title, nothing in the article), and the main redactor is an horrible arrogant person which claim his "independant jounalism" but he's considered as the french dorito pope.

This is how gameblog is seen by majority of french gamers.

I'll never get tired of this expression :D
 
So people can stream the game but no the story mode (on twitch)?

Apparently so. Twitch did this earlier this year with MGSV: GZ and Titanfall.

I don't know, all I know is the DD should be already patched when I download it. That is the version I am curious about.

That makes sense and fair enough. I'm only questioning this because it seems to me that whenever a developer/publisher ships a game in the state it's in, they clearly see it fit for sale. Kinda like handing your homework, then asking your teacher if you can have it back to add more notes. In the case of Watch_Dogs, late homework.
 
That makes sense and fair enough. I'm only questioning this because it seems to me that whenever a developer/publisher ships a game in the state it's in, they clearly see it fit for sale. Kinda like handing your homework, then asking your teacher if you can have it back to add more notes. In the case of Watch_Dogs, late homework.
yeah, I edited my post when you were replying. lol almost the same thoughts.
 

BenouKat

Banned
That is not true for Jeuxvideo.com. COD Ghost and TitanFall got 75% (and the DLC of the latter 50%), unless you don't count those games as well-marketed AAA.

I think I failed to explain the way I see jeuxvideo.com. I think this website is pretty good if you want the review of "mister everyone". Dunno how to explain this... They will (almost) never publish a bad review if the world video game press doesn't massively publish bad review. If you know what I mean.

The reputation of this website by gamer in France depends of your age in fact, jeuxvideo.com has a teenager public.
 

UrbanRats

Member
Everyone deserves an opinion, but I just don't get it. Truthfully - I think the only reason it passes user reaction nowadays is three reasons: scale, production value and dat name. Grand Theft Auto. No way that's a bad game.

R*'s most beloved game last gen was (for all intents and purposes) a new IP (it being Red Dead Redemption).
 
Gameblog is one of the four main videogame website in France with jeuxvideo.com, gamekult and jeuxactu (not sure of which one is the forth..)

But I think they get the worst reputation, their article are full of title that french called "click bitch" (Tabloid title, nothing in the article), and the main redactor is an horrible arrogant person which claim his "independant jounalism" but he's considered as the french dorito pope.

This is how gameblog is seen by majority of french gamers.

K, thx for the info. I guess being under the top4 means there would be a decent shitstorm if this supposed lie was real
 

Hyun Sai

Member
I think I failed to explain the way I see jeuxvideo.com. I think this website is pretty good if you want the review of "mister everyone". Dunno how to explain this... They will (almost) never publish a bad review if the world video game press doesn't massively publish bad review. If you know what I mean.

Fair enough, but Titanfall is well sitting at 85% in Metacritic, so by your metric, the site wouldn't have it 10 points under the general game media consensus.

What game reviews do you have in mind in the last year that could make them less reliable than other gaming sites ?
 

TGO

Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Gonna wait for more reviews but so far the summary for this thread is
- Game receives good/high scores
- People bypass the review and positives and
go straight to the negatives and question the score
- Game is labelled terrible.

People just have it in for this game don't they?
 

BenouKat

Banned
Fair enough, but Titanfall is well sitting at 85% in Metacritic, so by your metric, the site wouldn't have it 10 points under the general game media consensus.

What game reviews do you have in mind in the last year that could make them less reliable than other gaming sites ?

Not one in particular, just say they are generally "mainstream". If someone say to a french gamer "This game is good cause he gets a 18/20 on jv.com", he will laugh.

I didn't read them for years, so I'm maybe not able to explain the feeling, I admit it.
 

Blearth

Banned
Boss★Moogle;113474215 said:
The scores are what matter, it's what people will look at.


To me GTA V's story was laughable, and playing as three low-lives with almost no redeeming qualities did not do much for me. The AI was nothing to write home about either. That being said I still had a lot of fun with the game and that's what matters. These are games not movies. Stories should always play second fiddle to gameplay in games. Just the premise alone is infinitely better than GTA V's to me. Playing a vigilante taking out criminals is a lot better sounding to me than playing criminals taking out cops. Plus you have to do it while not killing any civilians or cops (if you want to be seen as good anyway); it seems way more interesting and challenging. From what I gather the game functions a lot like FarCry3 which was another great game that didn't have an oscar-worthy plot, but it was quite fun to play nevertheless.
Hell no

It's always more fun to be the bad guy.
 

10k

Banned
And here I thought those high Cpu recommended specs were because of the calculations needed to run awesome AI in an open world game. Nope. Poor optimization. But I'll wait for more well known gaming sites reviews first.
 

RulkezX

Member
While it's not going to set the world on fire it certainly seems it's pretty good game. This thread is going to get messy when the big reviews hit , seems some people are convinced the games a turd and there is no changing their mind.
 
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