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[HRK69]

This Xbox hate is so fucking cringe

 

[aerts1js]

We are now in the revisionism stages.

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[Skifi28]

put all games on switch to fat for ps5 need to lie down portal rip off xbox is dead

I talk England very best.

 

[Pedro Motta]

Still here, baby.

Loved playing BLoPS 6 on GP day 1.

But at what cost tho?

Why don't you support the devs? hahaha

 

[Panajev2001a]

This, ladies and gentlemen, is what severe mental illness looks like.

We joke about “suicide watch” on these forums, but in this case it’s no joke. What happened to him?

He moved off on his own channel for “content” and is now disappointed in MS for the Xbox box and just funneling his vitriol in shitting on anything PlayStation… not joking .

 

[adamsapple]

It's a classic argument. "They said". "You people". "Lots of them". "Numerous of the Xbox fans said".

Not a single example in sight, anywhere.

Same as this one. Vague and literally made up on the spot to secure likes from his friends.

GHG prides himself on finding people's year old posts as gotchas, I'm sure if he had relevant examples, he would have posted them

But, yes, agree with you. Lots of generalized net-throwing going on.

 

[bender]

They started a splinter forum and forgot to take adamsapple with them.

 

[aerts1js]

But at what cost tho?

 

[GHG]

GHG prides himself on finding people's year old posts as gotchas, I'm sure if he had relevant examples, he would have posted them

But, yes, agree with you. Lots of generalized net-throwing going on.

What so you and the rest of the crew want to now pretend the acquisition thread never happened and that none of those things were said?

 

[Unknown Soldier]

Most of the people cheering for the acquisition were blatant paid shills

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

Busy telling us now that an Xbox-branded PC will be a $1000+ superbox, will be the only one "enthusiasts" will shout for, and that it will send meaningful "ripples throughout the industry". You know, the usual delusion that zealots often chase.

Reality will do what it always does — bitch smack.

Done right a $1000 Xbox might be the only way they get me to buy any new Xbox "console" but did someone really say a $1000 Xbox would send meaningful "ripples throughout the industry"?

I missed who posted that

 

[Astray]

All I know is DarkMage619 got banished to the reactions realm after the deal closed.

 

[Starbuck2907]

So many people were awfully smug during that entire acquisition of Activision trying to paint it as somehow being good for gaming. It made zero sense.

Sure if I knew it would have resulted in Forza and Halo being on PS5 i’d have agreed but pretty sure that was on no one’s bingo card.

What has the acquisition actually resulted in? Layoffs, studio shut downs, and a complete implosion of the xbox brand.

The threads now are mostly people just (rightfully) dunking on phil or whatever but I genuinely wonder where the people that were pro acquisition are now AND at what point they realized they were a clown?

I mean, it was good for me, a Gamepass subscriber. That said, I never really cared about the acquisition.

 

[FrankWza]

There was 10% deflation when they realized that Sekiro IP wasn't owned by Activision. Then 90% more when they bungled CoD as an exclusive. The last 10% was for those holding on to MLB the show and finding out it's not day one on gp anymore. I realize that's 110% but that's the effort they put in when there's free socks involved.

 

[Moses85]

The Xbox Series is dead and thats the reason why these games are releasing on other Plattforms.

If the Xbox had sold like crazy, we would see these games only on PC and Xbox

 

[Bumblebeetuna]

You should name and shame whoever said the price of GP will never increase.

Every sub increase price, even Nintendo Switch Online is getting a price increase now.

Apple
Google
Sony
Nintendo
Netflix
Spotify
Hulu
Disney
NBC

Who knew they all bought ABK and raised their prices, too

 

[Ebrietas]

They were only giddy at the prospect of exclusive Xbox games and ending the PS business.

Now they are masquerading as PC fanboys and preaching the multiplatform future.

 

[POKEYCLYDE]

I was and am a proponent of the ABK acquisition. As a business move it was a wise decision.

Was hoping Sony would acquire Square Enix at the time too. But with how massively they've fucked up their most recent acquisitions, I'm less sure about that now.

 

[AJUMP23]

Somebody take away this trolls thread making privileges. What a Sony pony of threads.


But all this acquisition people are waiting for the next big one. I made like $20 bucks a share.

 

[adamsapple]

What so you and the rest of the crew want to now pretend the acquisition thread never happened and that none of those things were said?

I'm talking about the very specific game pass price thing you said earlier. Whoever said GP would never increase in price should be tarred and feathered. The price was going to increase even if the acquisition hadn't happened, no sub hasn't increased in price in the last ~3 years.

Why would I say the acquisition thread didn't exist, I'm enjoying its results, personally.

 

[Badlucktroll]

like i guess i dont get why they did it. did phil hope to take cod off playstation or something

 

[reinking]

Done right a $1000 Xbox might be the only way they get me to buy any new Xbox "console"

I feel the same way but probably for different reasons. I play on a mid-tier PC. A PC alternative for gaming might be the best case for me to buy the next Xbox "console." I would still prefer they do a seperate traditional console and a line of PCs at target specs but that is a me thing I have held on to since the OG Xbox.

 

[Bonfires Down]

It’s a pipe dream to think that Xbox would have survived either with or without the ActiBlizz aquisition.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

At what point of the proceedings did Microsoft realise they couldn’t make these games exclusive?

I think that’s when Satya stepped in and forced Xbox to go from being a console platform to a third party games publisher.

The day Starfield released and didn't turn out to be Elder Scrolls in space and sell a shit ton of Xbox Series units and GamePass subscriptions... but they knew it wouldn't before it even launched. They knew it internally. Hence why Phil came out and did that, we're not going to out-console Sony/Redfall apology interview and even said if Starfield was an 11/10. This was in May 2023 and they had almost certainly already talked to Sony about putting games there.

Or maybe Redfall's failure was a redline.

 

[poppabk]

The warriors who were only excited to dunk on someone hopefully fucked off.
But plenty of people were just saying that it should be allowed to go ahead and it wouldn't instantly doom Sony.

 

[TehGoomba7s]

As a playstation player I wanted MS to actually make COD exclusive to put some pressure on Sony.
Instead they basically went full third party, and now Sony have less pressure than ever to actually put out games or be more consumer friendly.

So yeah I guess I was wrong in supporting it.

CoD was never going to be exclusive. The sheer money lost would never be recoverable.

 

[onQ123]

They were only giddy at the prospect of exclusive Xbox games and ending the PS business.

Now they are masquerading as PC fanboys and preaching the multiplatform future.

The Resistance still resisting

Post in thread 'Mat Piscatella (NPD) - Helldivers 2 is a huge hit, but it’s mostly coming from PC. (Update: tweets deleted, no evidence provided)' https://www.neogaf.com/threads/mat-...d-no-evidence-provided.1667400/post-268937153

 

[Moriarty1889]

Things changed and didn’t really help Xbox overall, The people cheering on the acquisition figured it would make Xbox more desirable as a console and brand overall but it did not. It didn’t move the needle for them at all and now you see them scrambling to put their games everywhere just to try and stay alive. Pitiful and sad.

 

[Horseganador]

Most of them have left or have put on the PC mask, you start reading the threads about the purchase of ABK, the trials, how many expected the end of PS and how it all ended and you have to laugh.

 

[lughnasadh123]

Huge Activision buyout.
Need to sell games on other systems.
Further implosion of console sales.
Future very uncertain on how much third party support the Nextbox is going to get.

As a fan of the platform that's some pretty concerning stuff. Not so much if you don't mind playing elsewhere.

 

[TBiddy]

GHG prides himself on finding people's year old posts as gotchas, I'm sure if he had relevant examples, he would have posted them

But, yes, agree with you. Lots of generalized net-throwing going on.

Some people will do whatever it takes to get those sweet, sweet likes from their peers. I love how he proved your point just a few posts later btw

 

[Kataploom]

Cheering? More like Sony abusing paid third party exclusivity deals and people understanding MS reasons for the purchase, also, did people actually lose anything? They still get their games on PS

 

[Itchy Tickles]

I remember really only being disgusted that Bobby cockdick was gonna get a massive bonus and avoid all legal troubles.

I didn't care that Microsoft bought them, but thought it was a bit cheap doing game trailers as you boot up a game up or at a showcase etc, showing their Xbox studio games and adding games nearly if not finished before being bought. Same as Bethesda stuff. Don't care as a PC gamer in terms of exclusivity, still sucks (even with the rumoured ports to PlayStation)

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

They hide in the gaming threads mostly and pretend that they're neutral gamers or that they never championed the acquisition to begin with to save themselves the embarrassment. And some of them have switched allegiances from xbox gamers to PC gamers or nintendo gamers etc.

I'm sure others have noticed alot of Nintendo is now king and how much better games are on pc now. No shit pcs costing thousands run games better.

 

[GHG]

I'm talking about the very specific game pass price thing you said earlier. Whoever said GP would never increase in price should be tarred and feathered. The price was going to increase even if the acquisition hadn't happened, no sub hasn't increased in price in the last ~3 years.

Why would I say the acquisition thread didn't exist, I'm enjoying its results, personally.

I'll ask you again, are you sure you want to do this?

 

[newtypepilot]

xbox is dead even if they didnt buy activision. The acquisition with a massive overpayment only accelerated the process.

The moment they put all their eggs on gamepass they sealed their fate.

 

[adamsapple]

I'll ask you again, are you sure you want to do this?

Literally the same discussion / topic .

Detective skills have failed you, G

 

[SHA]

So many people were awfully smug during that entire acquisition of Activision trying to paint it as somehow being good for gaming. It made zero sense.

Sure if I knew it would have resulted in Forza and Halo being on PS5 i’d have agreed but pretty sure that was on no one’s bingo card.

What has the acquisition actually resulted in? Layoffs, studio shut downs, and a complete implosion of the xbox brand.

The threads now are mostly people just (rightfully) dunking on phil or whatever but I genuinely wonder where the people that were pro acquisition are now AND at what point they realized they were a clown?

I don't call myself one of them but last year I've beaten 60 games and another 2 games before the final boss, I don't see myself having that magic energy on the internet if I take the hobby genuinely, life is short and if I'm a billionaire I'd call that short tamper cause I wouldn't throw that money unknowingly.

 

[Saber]

They were mostly here, they just didn't know exactly what they were cheering for. Probably because this could be seeing as their first win. Mission accomplished I guess?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Literally the same discussion / topic .

Detective skills have failed you, G

 

[GHG]

Literally the same discussion / topic .

Detective skills have failed you, G

Yes, the post I shared came before that post you're now linking.

You spent a day trying to mislead people in to thinking there wouldn't be a price increase as a result of the merger, collecting plenty of likes from our old friend Florian Mueller (aka SoloKingRobert) along the way.

As a direct result of that post of yours, the following came about:

You had this poor soul thinking the price really wasn't going to go up and that the worst case scenario would be that it might go up by $1 in 5 years.

But I'm sure you'll say that them increasing the price and changing the structure just before Call of Duty arrived on the service was all just coincidental and nothing to do with the merger itself.

 

[Parazels]

People were mad, because it seemed a very rude approach from Microsoft to capture a market share by spending crazy money on the acquisition.

 

[Sanepar]

Here were just a few. On era most were ms employees, mods and admins paid for that and naive dumb users.

 

[adamsapple]

Yes, the post I shared came before that post you're now linking.

You spent a day trying to mislead people in to thinking there wouldn't be a price increase as a result of the merger, collecting plenty of likes from our old friend Florian Mueller (aka SoloKingRobert) along the way.

There wasn't a price increase because of the merger, they increased the price half a year before the acquisition even closed

Also, we had this exchange in the acquisition topic within the same hour, don't put anything on me

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But like I said, tar and feather anyone who said they'll never increase the price of game pass. Netflix reported record profits last year, they still increased the prices. The acquisition happening or not wouldn't have prevented a price increase.

 

[Humdinger]

Just saw Colin's recap. He reviews the whole history, but I've time-stamped the relevant bit, if you want to give it a watch. He talks about the acquisition, its effects, and Xbox fan's "cope" afterwards.

 

[bender]

There wasn't a price increase because of the merger, they increased the price half a year before the acquisition even closed

Also, we had this exchange in the acquisition topic within the same hour, don't put anything on me

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But like I said, tar and feather anyone who said they'll never increase the price of game pass. Netflix reported record profits last year, they still increased the prices. The acquisition happening or not wouldn't have prevented a price increase.

O onQ123 RN:

 

[GHG]

There wasn't a price increase because of the merger, they increased the price half a year before the acquisition even closed

Also, we had this exchange in the acquisition topic within the same hour, don't put anything on me

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But like I said, tar and feather anyone who said they'll never increase the price of game pass. Netflix reported record profits last year, they still increased the prices. The acquisition happening or not wouldn't have prevented a price increase.

Yes we did have that exchange, but yet you were still letting people run with the "they won't increase prices line" that came as a direct result of your post.

Why didn't you correct bxrz ?

Why did you decide to drop a "thoughtful" emoji on the following post instead of correcting him (or at the very least paint a more realistic picture)? :

You can try and be cute all you want here, but it's abundantly clear what you were attempting to do then and you're now trying to weasel your way out of it.

 

[poppabk]

What so you and the rest of the crew want to now pretend the acquisition thread never happened and that none of those things were said?

The shear volume of bullshit in that thread would provide enough fertilizer to grow crops for the entire world.
Let's not pretend that there wasn't a whole bunch of faux doom and gloom, CoD will be xbox exclusive, pearl clutching about game streaming rights no-one gave a shit about etc from people who wanted the deal to go south.

Anyone even really remember Unisoft getting the CoD game streaming rights? Does Ubisoft?

 

[Banjo64]

I'm talking about the very specific game pass price thing you said earlier. Whoever said GP would never increase in price should be tarred and feathered. The price was going to increase even if the acquisition hadn't happened, no sub hasn't increased in price in the last ~3 years.

Why would I say the acquisition thread didn't exist, I'm enjoying its results, personally.

Clearly some muddied commentary on this topic.

What actually happened was that the CMA were concerned that the price of Game Pass would increase as a result of the acquisition. Microsoft denied this would be the case in a reply that was published by the CMA (news article below).

Microsoft Says Game Pass Price Won't Increase Following Activision Deal Approval

The UK regulators, the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA), has shown some concerns that Microsoft could raise the price of [...]

www.vgchartz.com

Game Pass prices will not increase as a result of the Merger, and certainly will not increase to a point that offsets the substantial benefits of Activision titles coming to Game Pass on a day and date basis," reads Microsoft's response

Pro-acquisition posters leapt on this and parroted this line as a benefit of the deal for existing subscribers.

The issue being for everyone else that we have no true way of knowing if the series of price hikes we’ve seen since would have happened without ABK, or would have been as severe, or if the ceiling for future price hikes in the medium to long term is significantly heightened as a result.

But yes, no one was saying ‘Game Pass will never increase in price’.

 

[adamsapple]

Yes we did have that exchange, but yet you were still letting people run with the "they won't increase prices line" that came as a direct result of your post.

Why didn't you correct bxrz ?

Why didn't you correct bxrz ?

You can try and be cute all you want here, but it's abundantly clear what you were attempting to do then and you're now trying to weasel your way out of it.

Yes, I was trying to do something by posting the opposite in the same and other threads the same day

Just petty stuff now, G.