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What is going on with the Wicked press tour?

Jenov

Member
This would all be so much funnier if she went back to this personality on this PR tour:


Ariana’s fakeness cracks me up considering she’s actually just a regular white suburban girl from Florida:

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Jinxed

Member
But there are 3 million more women than men in the US so statistically hey experience it more because there's more of them and we men are risky AF (more likely to do relatively dangerous sports or activities and our health is generally poorer)...
More women than men in the U.S means nothing. Let's take car accidents as an example:

The straightforward answer to the men vs. women car accidents question is clear: men are more likely to be in crashes than women. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), in a recent year there were:

  • 1.63 million male drivers in traffic accidents involving injuries
  • 1.19 million female drivers in traffic accidents involving injuries

In other words, male drivers are about 37 percent more likely than female drivers to be involved in serious motor vehicle crashes. But the difference in fatal car accidents tilts even more heavily toward male drivers. According to NHTSA:

  • Male drivers were involved in 39,112 fatal crashes
  • Female drivers were involved in 12,938 fatal crashes
Women do have a higher chance of injury, but they dont have more accidents than men.

Anyhow, I've mentionned what I think is the root cause, so this is pretty useless. We dont agree, that's okay.
 

DeafTourette

Perpetually Offended
More women than men in the U.S means nothing. Let's take car accidents as an example:


Women do have a higher chance of injury, but they dont have more accidents than men.

Anyhow, I've mentionned what I think is the root cause, so this is pretty useless. We dont agree, that's okay.

Indeed. And I admit that social media as it exists currently is a problem.
 

StreetsofBeige

Gold Member
This. This and this.

My daughter turned 14 and shit started to hit the fan, she started to suffer a lot from anxiety and went to the point of having anxiety attacks to the point of taking it out on me. I've cut pretty much all of the phone and social media time and she's starting to get back to how she was before.

Fuck social media for teenagers and young women.
Older women too.

The past 10 years is the first time I'd ever seen people go on stress leave at work. Never saw it before ever at all past companies.

All people going on stress leave have been women except one guy who was drinking on the job and showing up at afternoon meetings drunk. Not totally plastered but people in his department said he'd show up woozy and slurring. So he musta had been boozing in the morning or at lunch.

I'd estimate at least 10 women have gone on leave. Latest person to go on sick leave (not formally but barely showed up or did any work in a month) was due to her legs hurting and no doctors could figure out why except she said one mentioned to lose weight as she's fat. She has a desk job. But because her legs hurt she couldnt do any work.
 
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8bitpill

Member
It's clearly one of those, but it would take a greater mind than mine to deduce which one is at greatest fault. I'd venture so far as to say that an over reliance on prescription medication is definitely a big part of the problem, (75% of the issues you mentioned there are related to reliance on prescription medication), as it seems many people refuse to find a way to take charge and attack their problems head on without first obtaining a little miracle pill from the doc. We have become soft and weak as a people, and we have allowed our beloved, beautiful, brilliant women to believe they require help from charlatans to make it through their day and to alleviate their woes. Pharmaceutical companies have women earnestly believing that they aren't strong enough to handle their emotional or physical issues without help from others, and it's just depressing. We need to start teaching women about self reliance, about personal strength, about accountability, about perseverance, about thick skin, and about loving themselves and others at the best of times, of course, but also at the worst of times, especially.

How we do that, I don't know....all I can focus on is mine, but I hope for the sake of women everywhere that we can figure something out as a people. I, too, find the modern woman perplexing and irritating, but I don't know that the modern woman is completely at fault, though we must all certainly take responsibility for our actions. I just try, every single day, to raise mine right and to not let the weakness of the outside world seep in. You wouldn't believe the nonsense that she comes home and tells me the school counselor told her, and the sheer number of scapegoats that modern public education has conjured to pin blame for everything on. Fortunately, my daughter is too smart to be duped. She comes home, "Daddy! I've gotta tell you about what the nuts at school said about men now!", and I laugh with her at the nonsense, and I'm just so proud of her for her inability to be duped, and her presence of mind and strength of spirit. She had a school counselor recently try for nearly an hour straight to convince her that she was either gay or transgender, (neither of which is a bad thing but it simply doesn't apply to her), but she didn't allow anyone to change her at all. She stood her ground and said, "no, I'm fine, I'm just me." She's incredible man, she's unshakable.

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One of the key things is to just be a present and good parent. There is so much more but it's a starting point which reads like you've been on that path since the day your daughter was born.

From just a slight observation since my wife and I have a daughter is amount of outside influence that is brought to her attention. I've had to explain to my daughter about a lot of subjects I didn't think I would have to go over till she hit her pre teens.

These are the struggles of good parents, it's hard to explain certain subjects to your child and at the same time making sure they don't take things out of context.

One thing I'm sure you know is once you're a parent, that concern never fades, even with a child that can handle and think for themselves. I realized, I will be there for my kid to help her till the day I'm gone.
 

LordCBH

Member
I ask this as a concerned father of a teenage girl....what is going on with women right now? Why are they all so randomly sad and affected in ways that even they do not understand by events they cannot control? I try to stay informed but disconnected, if that makes sense, as I believe that one will be miserable if they connect themselves emotionally to causes that they can't affect, but women just seem an absolute mess right now, emotionally speaking, and I genuinely wonder why. My daughter is actually pretty mentally healthy in this pool of nonsense, and she has every excuse to be a mess because she's a teenage girl, so what is going on here?

This shit tons of drugs everyone is taking now have some really fucked up side effects
 

Go_Ly_Dow

Member
Older women too.

The past 10 years is the first time I'd ever seen people go on stress leave at work. Never saw it before ever at all past companies.

All people going on stress leave have been women except one guy who was drinking on the job and showing up at afternoon meetings drunk. Not totally plastered but people in his department said he'd show up woozy and slurring. So he musta had been boozing in the morning or at lunch.

I'd estimate at least 10 women have gone on leave. Latest person to go on sick leave (not formally but barely showed up or did any work in a month) was due to her legs hurting and no doctors could figure out why except she said one mentioned to lose weight as she's fat. She has a desk job. But because her legs hurt she couldnt do any work.
My last workplace the female:male ratio was 70:30. Everyone I knew who was on mental health/sick leave were women.

My friend works in education and is a cover teacher and the vast majority of classes he covers are ones in which the female teacher are on long-term sickness/mental health leave.
 

Lunarorbit

Member
I realize that. It's just that your initial post on this made it seem like the ONLY thing causing this mental health crisis is social media and celeb culture.
Not to get political but there's been a long standing tradition in my 42 years in America of one side constantly attacking women. The anxiety levels of women are rightfully through the roof right now.
 
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