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What would a Naughty Dog Sci-Fi game look like?

Mibu no ookami

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Idk, it's kinda wrong, cause you can't make a %100 serious story on space, Noughty Dog seriousness to be more specific, it has to be attached someway to mass effect cause other space games are mostly expensive garbage.

Last of Us was serious (albeit with injections of humor) but Uncharted, Jak, and Crash never were.

I think the risk involved with doing their own Mass Effect like they did their own Tomb Raider is that Mass Effect really didn't have much nearly as much wide-ranging appeal.

You remove the RPG elements and you lose the RPG crowd that liked this and the other bioware games like KoToR.

I think there is also the risk around ship to ship pace combat which is almost never done well. So who knows if that would be included.
 

near

Gold Member
I'd like to see a grounded sci-fi game from ND, an isolated experience or something akin to The Thing, with a group on an expedition. I don't want a space opera, I don't want an open world design, but a tight story that focuses on the characters in perhaps a hostile and unpredictable environment. Films like Gravity, The Martian, Aliens, and Ex Machina (minus the AI and robots) are great character driven sci-fi stories to draw inspiration from. Druckmann better have a competent co-writer that isn't Halley Gross.
 

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This is obviously fake due to the white male main character.
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You people need to stop derailing threads with your crybaby nonsense. You are no less insane than the Purple club at this point.

As for the thread,

not sci-fi.. and I know the artist denied this drawing was from a new game but I have my doubts... man I wouldnt mind seeing their take on fantasy.
"Grounded" fantasy.. oxymoron I know. But it could be done.

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Impactful and meaningful story
visceral combat
best in class graphics
 
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TastyPastry

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i hope naughty dog sticks to their genre, the gameplay in TLOU2 is almost perfect and best in class. i just want them to do that but in a hard sci fi setting, even better if it's cyberpunk and takes place just on earth. as the main character, maybe after TLOU2 they will do a male protag again but yeah i doubt it's going to be a straight white male. maybe they'll do an asian dude next
 

Vick

Member
not sci-fi.. and I know the artist denied this drawing was from a new game but I have my doubts... man I wouldnt mind seeing their take on fantasy.
"Grounded" fantasy.. oxymoron I know. But it could be done.
No game could ever get even near The Witcher when it comes to "Grounded fantasy" though. Not even in the same galaxy really, they would (badly) lose from the get-go no matter how many light years ahead their combat, controls, gameplay and visuals will be.

It would need to be different enough to avoid any kind of comparison, meaning no "realistic" medieval kind of setting at all. Also because to be honest, I don't really want a studio like Naughty Dog to awkwardly mess with our history.
A FromSoftware kind of medieval would be much more preferable.

So far the Blade Runner 2049 is the most interesting concept to me, I'd fucking devour such game.
 
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Magic Carpet

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A rich human will be the bad guy and the aliens will be the good guys. You will play as a human helping the aliens, you will only ever be fighting humans.
 

SHA

Member
Last of Us was serious (albeit with injections of humor) but Uncharted, Jak, and Crash never were.

I think the risk involved with doing their own Mass Effect like they did their own Tomb Raider is that Mass Effect really didn't have much nearly as much wide-ranging appeal.

You remove the RPG elements and you lose the RPG crowd that liked this and the other bioware games like KoToR.

I think there is also the risk around ship to ship pace combat which is almost never done well. So who knows if that would be included.
Without choices then it matches aliens story, can't speak for aliens cause I haven't played it yet.
 

Fbh

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I think something like Cowboy Bebop could be fun
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I don't know what it's called. It's sort of retro cyberpunk but not as heavy on the tech and modifications, it's decadent but also has moments of beauty and a sense of nostalgia.
Also not only visually but in terms of tone too, it can touch serious and dark topics but bring back more of the humour and lighthearted sense of adventure too.
I don't really want more suffering porn like TLOU2.
 
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Gojiira

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When you look at Naughty Dog games they take heavy inspiration from other games and other media.



Way of the Warrior takes heavy inspiration from Mortal Kombat. Crash Bandicoot was heavily inspired by Donkey Kong Country and Sonic the Hedgehog.

I'd guess that Jak and Daxter was inspired not only by Crash Bandicoot but by Mario 64. Jak 2 seems to have been inspired by Blade Runner but the direction for it to be darker was due to Grand Theft Auto 3. Jak 3 was apparently inspired by Smuggler's Run.

Crash Team Racing and Jak X are obviously inspired by Mario Kart.

Uncharted was obviously inspired by Indiana Jones, Tomb Raider, and maybe National Treasure.

The Last of Us was inspired by The Walking Dead, The Road, and Children of Men.

What would a sci-fi game by Naughty Dog be inspired by? Sci-fi is still somewhat divisive and hit or miss. I think they can take a lot from Star Wars, but once you start getting into the force, it's a bit too much on the nose. I think they'd want to stick closer to Blade Runner, but Cyberpunk has really already marked that territory.

Ultimately, I'm thinking something more of a kin to Mass Effect, but more action-oriented rather than RPG. Maybe with inspiration from Star Trek more than Star Wars. Maybe some inspiration from Firefly (I actually wonder if Neil is a big fan of the show with the faction in the last of us called the Fireflies and alan tudyk originally being cast in Uncharted 4) Neil has specifically mentioned wanting to work on something like Cowboy Bebop.
If ND do scifi it should be inspired by Firefly,Star Wars 1313,Cowboy Bebop,Gundam that kind of thing.
Honestly I dont want anything like Mass Effect or Star Trek or anything like that.
Dirty,Industrial,hard scifi with space opera elements and the sense of a frontier across Alien worlds. Contrast the grittier human ships and stations with colourful,weird Aliens and planets.
They would be good at that I think.
 
If there is one thing you can count on, it's that stylistically it would be a very safe bet, it would be well done but wholly unorignal.
 

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What I want more than anything else from them is a grounded, realistic WAR game.

Give me a AAA video game version of Black Hawk Down. Focus on the soldiers experience and brutality of WAR. More Apocolypse Now less COD style Micheal Bay.

OR

A Sicario style game.

Grounded, gritty, gripping story, cartel, drugs, FBI, busts, etc.

That tactical 3rd person gameplay would be fucking fire.

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Fbh

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You people need to stop derailing threads with your crybaby nonsense. You are no less insane than the Purple club at this point.

As for the thread,

not sci-fi.. and I know the artist denied this drawing was from a new game but I have my doubts... man I wouldnt mind seeing their take on fantasy.
"Grounded" fantasy.. oxymoron I know. But it could be done.

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Impactful and meaningful story
visceral combat
best in class graphics

Both were introduced during the Ps3 era with several people in charge who are no longer at the company,
One was immediately replaced in the sequel by 2 female characters (one of them a lesbian, the other one a hyper buff woman protecting a trans kid)
The other one was allowed one more game but they made sure to introduce his daughter in the epilogue to have an obvious female lead in case they want to return to the franchise in the future.
The DLC turned semi sequel then featured 2 female characters. (ND also went out of their way to suggest a sort of romantic relationship between them)

Of course this doesn't mean the games are bad or that games need to feature straight white males to be good. (hell one of my favourite games ever, the Outer Wilds, features a non binary alien that uses they/them pronouns)
But lets not pretend modern ND doesn't have a style. There's a 0% chance their next main character will be a white male.
 
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damidu

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Both were introduced during the Ps3 era with several people in charge who are no longer at the company,
One was immediately replaced in the sequel by 2 female characters (one of them a lesbian, the other one a hyper buff woman protecting a trans kid)
The other one was allowed one more game but they made sure to introduce his daughter in the epilogue to have an obvious female lead in case they want to return to the franchise in the future.
The DLC turned semi sequel then featured 2 female characters. (ND also went out of their way to suggest a sort of romantic relationship between them)

Of course this doesn't mean the games are bad or that games need to feature straight white males to be good. (hell one of my favourite games ever, the Outer Wilds, features a non binary alien that uses they/them pronouns)
But lets not pretend modern ND doesn't have a style. There's a 0% chance their next main character will be a white male.
yeah agreed. not that i have the allergy towards it like some of the weirdos here, but it's impossible to not see their template at this point.
hell druckman pretty much said it himself.

When designing new characters, Swidowski asks Druckmann things like "Can this be a person of color?" and "Can this be a woman?"

started with some right intentions probably,
but like every pseudo-intellectual dying for acceptance from the zeitgeist, he over-corrected to the point of caricature.
 
After the Factions failure, I'm not so sure about Naughty Dog anymore. I can't see anything good coming from a sci-fi game. Main character aside, there are many plot booby traps they would gladly step in.

- Large corporations ruling the world (like NOW but with the opposite people in charge, so you don't see that is our present)

- Climate change this, climate change that.

- Transhumanism and Malthusianism, pseudo-intellectual anti-human bullshit.

- Memorable quotes like "This is where men in power led us to". "We deserved what was coming"

To make a "grounded" sci-fi story and avoid those bullet points challenging the current narrative is beyond impossible.

So, unless it's a "fantasy in space" ala Star Wars, it would be hot garbage.


I would dig a Resistance reboot by Naughty Dog. That could be interesting.
 

Eiknarf

Banned
An open world soulslike Savage Starlight is the correct plan moving forward
Isn’t that the series of comics we find within the world of The Last of Us?

Then yeah, a SciFi game based on that will probably be what we’re getting.
ND already created some story and characters
 

nial

Member
No game could ever get even near The Witcher when it comes to "Grounded fantasy" though. Not even in the same galaxy really, they would (badly) lose from the get-go no matter how many light years ahead their combat, controls, gameplay and visuals will be.

It would need to be different enough to avoid any kind of comparison, meaning no "realistic" medieval kind of setting at all. Also because to be honest, I don't really want a studio like Naughty Dog to awkwardly mess with our history.
A FromSoftware kind of medieval would be much more preferable.

So far the Blade Runner 2049 is the most interesting concept to me, I'd fucking devour such game.
Fuck, banned. One of the best posters here, at least it's not permanent.
 

ProtoByte

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So far the Blade Runner 2049 is the most interesting concept to me, I'd fucking devour such game.
I like Bladerunner for what it is, but I don't love that subgenre of sci-fi.

I think the aesthetic and the usual themes that come with it are overused and actually not that widely appealing. Neither Blade Runner movie lit up the box office for a reason.

If ND does sci-fi I either want the more nuanced and actually grounded Deus Ex 1 type, or a sci-fi with fantasy elements that is also nuanced.

Cyberpunk or yet another bog standard military sci-fi would be so boring.
 

Wildebeest

Member
It would look like Interstellar and Starfield because that is what a generic flavourless person thinks of as science fiction made with great taste.
 

poodaddy

Gold Member
I went years without putting a single person on ignore on this site, hated the very idea of it. In the past couple of months, I've placed a total of 78 79 86 people on ignore and in this topic alone about a dozen... Not sure what is going on these days.
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You with regards to Naughty Dog. That's what happened. Nothing changed other than your tolerance for other people's opinions.

Love ya bro.
 

Majormaxxx

Member
There will be lots of non-traditional sexually deviant weirdo characters.

There is also at least one cringe intimate scene. Completely unnecessary too.

There is a subversion of expectations.

Too long with broken pacing and overindulgent writing.

And beautiful landscapes, well crafted models and excellent animations.
 

SHA

Member
i hope naughty dog sticks to their genre, the gameplay in TLOU2 is almost perfect and best in class. i just want them to do that but in a hard sci fi setting, even better if it's cyberpunk and takes place just on earth. as the main character, maybe after TLOU2 they will do a male protag again but yeah i doubt it's going to be a straight white male. maybe they'll do an asian dude next
Cp theme is corruption, the atmosphere just doesn't align with naughty dog standards.
 
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