Why are iPhone batteries so shit?

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Apple -> About this Mac -> System Report -> Power -> Full Charge Capacity. The stock full charge capacity for an rMBP in 2015 is around 8500-8900mAh. So if you see, say, 4200mAh, you know your battery is tanked. Apple will replace your battery under AppleCare, which you have for free for the first year of ownership.
The out of warrenty battery replacement is $99-$120 if my memory is correct.
 
I used to have some serious battery problems on my 5C since a few months ago. The phone would heat up to the point it was uncomfortable to hold it, even.

After some research I found out the solution was to do a complete wipe, reinstall the latest system software and restore a backup from iCloud without connecting the phone to iTunes. Now the battery lasts for more than a day and never heats up.
 
Do your text notifications turn your screen on? I had to turn that off.

Yeah, but I don't think that's the reason because I generally don't get too many notifications.

The Apple programmers has implemented a clever "trick" where the 100% charge will show until about 93-94% actual charge to make people feel like there's less battery drain.

We used to be able to check it with Coconut Battery pre-iOS10. But the good people at Apple has disabled the app now...

That's really stupid and I don't see the point of doing something like that, but then again... Apple :/
 
It'll still get charged to keep at 100%.

Leaving the charger plugged is simply dumb.

Usually not to 100% of the actual capacity, no. The battery meter does not reflect the precise state of charge.

Keeping a battery plugged into its charger isn't harmful.
 
It'll still get charged to keep at 100%.

Leaving the charger plugged is simply dumb.
If you say so bro

I guess I'll just ignore my years long experience with great battery life and start getting up from bed at 4am every day just to unplug my phone.
 
Apple -> About this Mac -> System Report -> Power -> Full Charge Capacity. The stock full charge capacity for an rMBP in 2015 is around 8500-8900mAh. So if you see, say, 4200mAh, you know your battery is tanked. Apple will replace your battery under AppleCare, which you have for free for the first year of ownership.

Where can I find information on the stock full charge for a 2012 13-inch MBP? My stats currently say 3304 mAh, but is that the standard capacity across my laptop series?
 
Usually not to 100% of the actual capacity, no. The battery meter does not reflect the precise state of charge.

Keeping a battery plugged into its charger isn't harmful.
Indeed. I haven't taken any special precautions with my iPhone 5s and I've had it over two years. When at full charge it'll easily last 14hrs if the brightness is set to low and maybe 7 if high. Luckily not too bad. That said if I'm out taking pics and video and uploading it'll maybe only last 5 hours or so but I think that's the case with a lot of phones.
 
Phone batteries just suck in general. It drives me nuts.

Make the phone a couple millimeters thicker in exchange for a battery that will actually last all day, geez.

Edit: And while they're at it, maybe Apple could use a tiny bit of that extra space to put a freaking headphone jack back in. >:(

The Apple programmers has implemented a clever "trick" where the 100% charge will show until about 93-94% actual charge to make people feel like there's less battery drain.
I'm pretty sure they do this because it's hard to accurately measure battery capacity at almost-full levels.
 
I hate my iPhone 4 with a passion, but the one thing that delivers is the battery life.

My iPhone 4 is 5 years old now, coming onto 6.

I use my phone mainly for Whatsapp + Youtube. Been using it for the whole day, and battery has gone from 100% to 45%
 
Most phones have shit battery.

My Galaxy S6 loses like 10% of its charge from me reading the news on my 10 min bus drive to work. I'd honestly preffer a phone that as twice as thick but with muh bettery battery life
 
If you say so bro

I guess I'll just ignore my years long experience with great battery life and start getting up from bed at 4am every day just to unplug my phone.
Everyday? lol Do whatever you feel you gotta do I guess, meanwhile I enjoy my 3-5 days without charging on a 1 1/2 year old phone. *shrugs*
 
I'm pretty sure they do this because it's hard to accurately measure battery capacity at almost-full levels.
How come the Coconut Battery app could show the charge/discharge accurately? I could monitor the drain with a decimal. And that's just one dude who made that app.

Last night, my 6S ran 30 minutes of YouTube before it dropped from 100% to 99%. Don't tell me that Apple can't do anything about it. It has been like this since I had my 3GS. If Apple wanted to give us a precise battery gauge, we would have got it years ago.
 
If you say so bro

I guess I'll just ignore my years long experience with great battery life and start getting up from bed at 4am every day just to unplug my phone.

I keep my battery topped off constantly. Leave the house it's at 100. Get on the train it's at 100. Toss it on portable charger. Get to office and it's at 93. Charger.

Same way going home. Nice that if I'm ever in a situation throughout the day where i can't charge my phone that it's at 100%.
 
Everyday? lol Do whatever you feel you gotta do I guess, meanwhile I enjoy my 3-5 days without charging on a 1 1/2 year old phone. *shrugs*

What you're saying about battery chargers is completely wrong. I'm glad your batteries are lasting, but not leaving it on a charger is not the reason.
 
Power quality can also affect your battery. If your battery degrade that quickly, I'd say change where you charge it (plug in a ups or something) to see if it helps
 
Power quality can also affect your battery. If your battery degrade that quickly, I'd say change where you charge it (plug in a ups or something) to see if it helps

Power quality would only really come down to the charger you're using. The AC input really shouldn't impact the DC output.
 
My wife has an iPhone 5, this summer the battery couldn't keep the charge form more than a couple of hours. At one point the battery inflated, lifting the screen. I juggled with the settings, removed Facebook and tried everything, but no dice... She went to a service that replaced the battery and repaired the screen.
It went ok until now, but just a couple of days ago the problem resurfaced.
 
Now, I've never had an iPhone but I have a 1st Gen Moto G and it still holds charges like a champ after 2 years. But, from what I've seen with my dad's old iPhone 4S (or anybody else), they never had battery issues.

Here's the thing, do you regularly discharge your phone or using it like there's only less than 15% left? Well, here's your solution. You must avoid doing that at all cost. That's the lithium battery thresold. It damages it in the long run. So, charge it before that. Plain and simple. Heat is also a big issue. So Fast Charging, wireless recharging is to avoid.

Good article from Gizmodo: http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256
 
If you say so bro

I guess I'll just ignore my years long experience with great battery life and start getting up from bed at 4am every day just to unplug my phone.
I've put my iPhone on charge every single night and left it overnight.

My phone was 3 years old and sure it was holding slightly less charge (maybe 60-80% of what it used to), but it was pretty good for 3 years. I got it replaced by Apple (for an issue outside of warranty but Apple did it for free) so my replacement had a new battery and I've been using that for a year now and it has been fine.

My understanding is that once it hits full charge it won't actually charge the phone and instead run off power. I just assume Apple know what they're doing so they don't shorten battery life unnecessarily. I stopped worrying about charging and not charging and fully draining etc for the most part I just use my phone how I want to use it and it has been fine.

I'm hoping to get 5 years out of my iPhone 5.
 
Li/on battery tech is basically at its physics limits. It not the phones fault battery technology just hasn't progressed much. We really need some sort breakthrough in battery tech.

Dont leave your devices charging all the time will help with batteries wearing out so fast.
 
Here's the thing, do you regularly discharge your phone or using it like there's only less than 15% left? Well, here's your solution. You must avoid doing that at all cost.

If my phone's battery wasn't so crap to begin with, I wouldn't ever need to go below 15%. As things are, I need that extra bit of power.

Li/on battery tech is basically at its physics limits. It not the phones fault battery technology just hasn't progressed much. We really need some sort breakthrough in battery tech.

No, but it is there fault for insisting on making phones so thin at the expense of usability.

What utility does having such a thin phone give me? An iPhone 6 does not fit in my pocket any more easily than an OG iPhone. They made it so thin, they had to make an extra bump for the camera, so my phone can't lay flat on a table without wobbling.
 
You can download a tool to inspect your phone backup and reveal the current capacity of the battery vs new capacity

Once the phone starts to do weird stuff like turn off at 10% then it's time to check that.

Apple.will replace batteries for free that have dropped lower than expected.

If your phone runs hot you are shortening the life of the battery. If,you keep.it at 100% you are shortening the life. If you let it go to zero and sit there for days you are shortening the life. Leave it in the sun or a hot car.. You get the picture.
 
I've got a huge stack of iOS devices for development and none of them have battery issues AFAIK. I even used the iPhone 5 as my main phone for a few months and it was great.
 
The 6 plus's battery was legendary. Not sure if my 6S plus was a dud, but it certainly didn't live up to its predecessor.
 
They haven't been for me.

My 6+ battery is still rock solid. I don't plan on upgrading until next year.

I think I keep the brightness lower than most people. A lot of people love that ultra torch mode look, I don't. I leave it on the charger at night when I'm sleeping.
 
The battery on my 2 year old iPhone 6 still holds up fine. I charge over night and usually have 50-60% left at the end of the day. Sometimes I can even make it 2 days without having to charge.
 
It'll still get charged to keep at 100%.

Leaving the charger plugged is simply dumb.

Of course it does. But it will charge whatever % of battery the phone consumes during the night on standby. Which you would eventually have to charge anyway.

What wears modern li-ion batteries is being discharged, not being charged. The only way to increase the lifetime of a device's battery is to use it less. Many devices will actually wear their batteries less when used while plugged (if they are capable of bypassing the battery).

So no, it's not dumb.
 
I dont' know what it was with the iPhones but the battery issues are a mix of bad batteries and hardware going off (PM/charging IC). I think I ended up swapping more batteries on the 6's than I did screens.
 
I'm an Android guy and the one thing that I envy from my wife's iPhones is their battery life. She gets a day and a half easily. She could be just lucky but she's had four iPhones with excellent battery life.

I've gone through several different Android phones and battery life has been consistently bad, except of the OG Moto X but that was a bit underpowered for when it was released.
 
My 5s is like 3 years old now and holds a charge for days.

A lot of this depends on usage patterns. The battery will wear out faster if you use it more and it's doing full cycle recharges every day.
 
My iPhone 6 still gets reasonable battery life. I took it on vacation recently and ran it into the ground a few times in the course of taking about 1000 photos.

I am looking forward to the battery life of the 7+ though. Will be nice to no longer even think about it most days.
 
Solution as the owner of 4 iPhones, including the 6 I'm typing this on, various android and blackberry devices: stop buying iPhones. The worst battery management software and/or OS in regards to saving your battery. 20 percent shouldn't = 0. Most iphone owners here will know what that means. They're junk phones. I've done barely anything on this phone and it's at 55 percent since being pulled off the charger at 11am. Which means I have approximately 35 percent battery remaining. Never lasts a full day since its first couple months. I turn the camera on for even a minute and it's over.
 
I've got a huge stack of iOS devices for development and none of them have battery issues AFAIK. I even used the iPhone 5 as my main phone for a few months and it was great.

We used to keep our devices in an enclosure for charging and security purposes at night. And the screen on our 6 detached from the frame. Like, the phone got swollen. We suspect the battery swole up.
 
Solution as the owner of 4 iPhones, including the 6 I'm typing this on, various android and blackberry devices: stop buying iPhones. The worst battery management software and/or OS in regards to saving your battery. 20 percent shouldn't = 0. Most iphone owners here will know what that means. They're junk phones. I've done barely anything on this phone and it's at 55 percent since being pulled off the charger at 11am. Which means I have approximately 35 percent battery remaining. Never lasts a full day since its first couple months. I turn the camera on for even a minute and it's over.

The majority of popular Android phones have crappy batteries too. There are a couple of ones that don't though, so that's nice.

Unfortunately for me, I can't stand Android. Although I'm probably going to switch anyway when I next need a new phone—thanks for removing that headphone jack, Apple.
 
Okay this probably isn't exclusive to iPhone and there's probably people who have this problem with other phones with non-removable batteries but I've always only dealt with this in iPhones.

Everytime I get a new iPhone it's fine for about a year then after that the battery just goes to shit and can barely hold a charge anymore.

iPhone 4: Got it, was fine for about 8-9 months but after that the battery started to get worse and worse to the point where I could charge it up to 100% and it would hit 0 in less than 2 hours. Around this time I figured out it was bad to leave your phone on the charger after it was fully charge so I kinda blame this one on myself.

iPhone 5s: Was fine for a year then the battery did the same thing. The entire time I had this phone I made sure to take it off the charger after it was done charging. I slipped up a couple times but for the most part I tried hard as hell to keep the battery in this phone going but couldn't.

iPhone 6s: When I got this phone I only charged it during the day let it 100% and took it off the charger immediately. Stopped charging the phone at night since I knew I would leave it on the charger all night due to me being asleep. Still went through the same shit after about 9 months. As of right now, this phone can only last for about 2 hours going off a full charge, maybe 3 if I turn on battery saving mode.

I'm just so fucking sick of it. I know I could change the battery out but it such a hassle to do it myself and possibly void the warranty or have to pay somebody else to replace a battery. Something that used to be so simple to do in a phone I have to contact a company to do. Just makes me mad. Kind of why I don't want to get a iPhone 7 in fear that I will have to deal with this again.

Anyone else dealt with this when it comes to iPhones or phones with non-removable batteries in general?
My IPhone 4 is still going strong. Girlfriend uses it and she uses quite a bit for work: calls, emails, what's app, text etc. Some basic word games too.
It gets to 40% after a day's use.

I use a 5S and it can go for days.

The secret: Never allow the battery to drain much. With the 4, I think I let it drain below 20% once. One time in all these years. Crazy? Is it crazy to protect your $400 investment?
I have other mobile devices and follow the same guideline and the batteries endure.
 
Now, I've never had an iPhone but I have a 1st Gen Moto G and it still holds charges like a champ after 2 years. But, from what I've seen with my dad's old iPhone 4S (or anybody else), they never had battery issues.

Here's the thing, do you regularly discharge your phone or using it like there's only less than 15% left? Well, here's your solution. You must avoid doing that at all cost. That's the lithium battery thresold. It damages it in the long run. So, charge it before that. Plain and simple. Heat is also a big issue. So Fast Charging, wireless recharging is to avoid.

Good article from Gizmodo: http://gizmodo.com/how-to-take-care-of-your-smartphone-battery-the-right-w-513217256

The reported charge doesn't necessarily match the actual capacity. It might be reporting 15% but physically have 30%. Engineers are smart like that.
 
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