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[Men_in_Boxes]

I just started playing Days Gone on PS5 due to the recent Sony Bend leaks. I wanted to see first hand what "working off the systems of Days Gone" meant.

Roughly an hour into my experience playing a game, like the Norway Warning System, my brain identifies a critical failure of game design.

Deacon rides a Vespa with a gas tank the size of a premature babies bladder. The thing tops out at 13 mph, and has to be refueled every 200ft. Fine whatever, they want you upgrading this thing over the course of the 40 hour game. That's silly but I can accept it.

That leads you to having to find gas tanks in the open world every two minutes. THAT means you're getting off your Vespa, running/sneaking up to a gas tank, and getting seen by zombies that are everywhere.

Once you're seen by a zombie you instantly have two choices. You can spend the next 3 minutes of your life running towards tall grass/a dumpster/inside a house and sneaking your way back to the gas can....OR...or you can just let the zombies kill you and respawn 15 seconds back with the newfound knowledge of zombie locations.

THE GAME ENCOURAGES YOU TO LET THE ZOMBIES KILL YOU.

This is the Ford Pinto of game design.

I can stomach the dialogue, the poor encounter design, the lack of meaningful choice etc...I can not suffer the buffoonery of zombies acting as speed icons in the game world. Now I didn't pay attention to much of the discourse when this game launched in 2019, but was this a frequent point of criticism? I feel like all I ever heard about was the "Ride me like you ride your bike" line. How does this broken design get past any stage in the development process? This is bad and John Garvin and Jeff Ross and anyone wishing for a Days Gone 2 should feel bad. Burn this thing with fire, for the love of God.

 

[Edgelord79]

Days Gone was the most incredible average game ever made.

 

[Singular7]

Sounds like single player games that let you reload aren't your thing.

 

[HRK69]

What else can be done but to accept it?

 

[MiguelItUp]

I remember when Days Gone released a lot of people basically said the game was incredibly average. People were only impressed by the zombie tech that allowed many on screen at once. But that was really it.

I was pretty shocked that these people came out of the woodwork praising it years later.

 

[NuclearDiarrhea]

Haven't played this since launch but i always thought zombie spawns were randomized after each reload. Anyway, I don't think you're going to enjoy this OP, you may as well go back to playing your shitty extraction shooters.

 

[bitbydeath]

Try it on easy if the game is too hard.

 

[lughnasadh123]

It's not much of an issue at the beginning and only gets easier. Only once did I have to abandon my bike. Having a bit of maintenance for the bike was what added an enjoyable layer of realness to the world where you felt like you existed in rather than just a gamey theme park to run through. As usual, what clicks varies from person to person and what they want out of the game. For me I loved that shit and have been staring at a gaping hole it left that nothing really has filled. Atta boy, bike. Atta boy.

 

[Mr Moose]

Zombies?

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

my brain

 

[Rawbutt Jellybean]

Just refill when you're at an encampment.

 

[pudel]

Game was surprinsigly good when I finally played it on PC and somehow everyone else liked it as well at this time (sits still at 92% positive reviews on steam). Cant remember I had to grind anything in that game.

 

[JayK47]

Clearly it was a design decision to keep you are the edge of your seat, much like the flashlight with a 5 second battery. I agree it was nothing but an annoyance. But I managed.

 

[semiconscious]

op - pro tip: first chance you get, trade in that vespa for an electric scooter. lots easier to upgrade...

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Clearly it was a design decision to keep you are the edge of your seat, much like the flashlight with a 5 second battery. I agree it was nothing but an annoyance. But I managed.

Having to grab a gas can every two minutes isn't a deal breaker for me.

Learning the game rewards the player for letting the zombies kill them is the deal breaker.

It's unforgivable game design. The zombies shouldn't be helping the player accomplish their objectives period.

 

[Raven117]

I liked the characters. They were all broken and interesting in their own way.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I found it funny how they kept promoting the giant sawmill zombie battle and it turns out people said that happens near the end of the game. The other zombie horde fights are much smaller.

 

[Rawbutt Jellybean]

I found it funny how they kept promoting the giant sawmill zombie battle and it turns out people said that happens near the end of the game. The other zombie horde fights are much smaller.

They start small but they get bigger as you get further into the game.

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

I was going to join the march on Washington to fight the injustices of game design imposed upon me in but then I just...accepted it and continued living my life.

 

[bitbydeath]

Learning the game rewards the player for letting the zombies kill them is the deal breaker.

It doesn’t.
The freakers roam around constantly, most sleep in caves or other dark places during the day.

 

[Codes 208]

Days Gone was the most incredible average game ever made.

Well it gave horizon a run for its money for most “it exists” of sony’s catalogue

 

[bender]

my brain identifies...

The same brain that thought limited enemy vision cones were a byproduct of hardware limitations?

 

[Sooner]

Git gud

 

[proandrad]

I didn't like it, but many people did. I think some media were overly critical about it for the wrong reasons.

 

[Edgelord79]

Well it gave horizon a run for its money for most “it exists” of sony’s catalogue

Ya Horizon is another one that is neck and neck for that crown.

 

[NeverYouMind]

Weird. I just refueled at the home base and encampments that far into the game. There is not many places you can survive that early. If you screw up the game doesn't waste your time and throws you back to the nearest checkpoint. I think you will start to appreciate it when you do stealth missions. Most multiplayer games have respawns so it is strange that you would take issue with this particular quality of life feature.

 

[Brigandier]

 

[Rubim]

I just started playing Days Gone on PS5 due to the recent Sony Bend leaks. I wanted to see first hand what "working off the systems of Days Gone" meant.

Roughly an hour into my experience playing a game, like the Norway Warning System, my brain identifies a critical failure of game design.

Deacon rides a Vespa with a gas tank the size of a premature babies bladder. The thing tops out at 13 mph, and has to be refueled every 200ft. Fine whatever, they want you upgrading this thing over the course of the 40 hour game. That's silly but I can accept it.

That leads you to having to find gas tanks in the open world every two minutes. THAT means you're getting off your Vespa, running/sneaking up to a gas tank, and getting seen by zombies that are everywhere.

Once you're seen by a zombie you instantly have two choices. You can spend the next 3 minutes of your life running towards tall grass/a dumpster/inside a house and sneaking your way back to the gas can....OR...or you can just let the zombies kill you and respawn 15 seconds back with the newfound knowledge of zombie locations.

THE GAME ENCOURAGES YOU TO LET THE ZOMBIES KILL YOU.

This is the Ford Pinto of game design.

I can stomach the dialogue, the poor encounter design, the lack of meaningful choice etc...I can not suffer the buffoonery of zombies acting as speed icons in the game world. Now I didn't pay attention to much of the discourse when this game launched in 2019, but was this a frequent point of criticism? I feel like all I ever heard about was the "Ride me like you ride your bike" line. How does this broken design get past any stage in the development process? This is bad and John Garvin and Jeff Ross and anyone wishing for a Days Gone 2 should feel bad. Burn this thing with fire, for the love of God.

Why are you not playing the superior PC Version?

Realistic Bike Speed and Fuel Tank

The bike goes the speed of a bike irl and the fuel tank size makes sense.UPDATE: I have found a way to edit the capped speedNote: You will never get anything past tier 3 up to top speed it

www.nexusmods.com

Then after getting some upgrades

Massive (Challenging) Hordes -Tier -Variants

Makes hordes everywhere bigger with a range from approx 280 to 600 (A boss hordes lil bigger) . Added 330-500-750-999 horde everywhere versions

www.nexusmods.com

Your welcome.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

The objective is for you to use your skills, ingenuity and manage to overcome the obstacles with what they offer you... Use your perseverance or will the game dominate you

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

A game with meaningful upgrades that actually help??? Flawed game design!!!!

 

[Sakura]

Never played Days Gone, but what you are saying kind of reminds me of Death Stranding. It would often be easier to just let the baddies grab you so you can kill the big baddy and then cruise freely through the area.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

The same brain that thought limited enemy vision cones were a byproduct of hardware limitations?

lol, what is this?

 

[NinjaBoiX]

“I decided I couldn’t be bothered to deal with the consequences of my in game actions, so I just let myself die to respawn. What kind of game design is that?”

What are you talking about bro, saying the game encourages you to just give up and respawn is beyond stupid.

You don’t like it, that’s fine.

Chill…

 

[LimanimaPT]

I loved this game...
A tragedy that Sony killed this franchise.

 

[Seomel]

The game literary teaches you in beginning to save gas by not rolling downhills etc. Also with 2nd upgrade which is maybe 3-4h in you can significantly increase capacity. Beginning is like that just because Deacon got some shitty stripped bike, also gas cana are all atound camp spots, nero zones and gas stationa you have on map. I generally dont remember it being anything like what you describe

 

[Matt_Fox]

"let the zombies kill you"

Or... how about you kill the zombies? That's the game you silly sausage!

(ps. In truth the first couple hours are a bit hamstrung but it opens up beautifully, so stick with it.)

 

[The Cockatrice]

Since you're so bad at singleplayer games how can anyone take your online game threads seriously? What a noob.

 

[Justin9mm]

A lot of people especially when it first released who didn't like it, never gave the game enough time. It was a widely known fact after it released that it was a slow burn to start off with and it builds up. OP sounds like he played like 2 hours which is nowhere near enough to be critical of the game. I remember it taking like 6-8 hours before things started ramping up. It's good game and better than Horizon in my opinion.

 

[GymWolf]

Skill issue and the game having a proper sense of progression.

Better to stick with escape from uzbekistan or whatever the name is.

 

[TintoConCasera]

Wait until OP hears about quick saves and quick loads. Videogames ruined forever.

 

[keefged4]

Days Gone is underrated, I really enjoyed it because of the urgency of the mechanics, It's actually dangerous travelling in it and requires constant attention. The opposite would have been you being able to just hold up and plough through everything like other open world games, which would have been boring.

 

[Stuart360]

I'll be honest, i already knew about the annoying bike running out of gas constantly mechanic, so when i played on PC i just used a trainer that gave the bike unlimited gas lol.

 

[GymWolf]

I'll be honest, i already knew about the annoying bike running out of gas constantly mechanic, so when i played on PC i just used a trainer that gave the bike unlimited has lol.

It's really a non-problem, gasoline canister are fucking everywhere and it get even better when you upgrade the tank capacity.

I have 3 runs and like 100++ hours in that game and the bike only left me on foot like 3 times.

 

[The_Observer]

This guy only posts troll threads, why do most of you can’t see it?

 

[NuclearDiarrhea]

This guy only posts troll threads, why do most of you can’t see it?

He seems mentally challenged so we all try to be nice to him and give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Bert Big Balls]

This isn't a design issue. It's not even an issue. Go outside.

 

[Moses85]

What else can be done but to accept it?

Stop playing it

and stop to crying like a

 

[Stuart360]

It's really a non-problem, gasoline canister are fucking everywhere and it get even better when you upgrade the tank capacity.

I have 3 runs and like 100++ hours in that game and the bike only left me on foot like 3 times.

Interesting, its not really what i have read.
Still i find these kind of mechanics add nothing to a game except annoyance and frustration, so i feel i would of used a trainer anyway even if reports said it wasnt that bad.
Its like when i play a RPG or open world game, i always use a trainer to give myself unlimired item capacity, carrying capacity, etc. Cant stand always running out of space, or needing to drop something to pick something up, etc. It adds nothing to the game for me except annoyance.

 

[GymWolf]

Interesting, its not really what i have read.
Still i find these kind of mechanics add nothing to a game except annoyance and frustration, so i feel i would of used a trainer anyway even if reports said it wasnt that bad.
Its like when i play a RPG or open world game, i always use a trainer to give myself unlimired item capacity, carrying capacity, etc. Cant stand always running out of space, or needing to drop something to pick something up, etc. It adds nothing to the game for me except annoyance.

I don't particularly like this mechanic either and it would be bad if it was an actual problem, but it isn't, at best is a minor annoyance because you have to remember to fill the tank everytime you stop to clear an enemy camp etc, but this get progressively better with the tank upgrades.

At best you can say it's half cooked, not all the way in where scavenging for gasoline was really important but not even all the way out where you never have to think about gasoline, for some people is probably fine tuned as it is.

 

[Nitty_Grimes]