Will US tariffs affect console sales that were supposed to get a boost from GTA VI?

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Unless Sony has 20 million PS5s in a warehouse somewhere, they might miss out on that massive stimulus. I know they've been trying to stockpile PS5s in anticipation of this already.

Will Rockstar delay the game?

What about Microcock? They barely had any inventory in stores to begin with, are they gonna get screwed?
 
I think just about all this will be settled within a month. People are being hyperbolic. Won't affect holiday.

Think Tim Robinson GIF by NETFLIX


With the escalation, China ain't ever backing down, and recessions are not "within" a month.

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Think Tim Robinson GIF by NETFLIX


With the escalation, China ain't ever backing down, and recessions are not "within" a month.

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Totally. One of the things that I felt was preventing anything ever happening with China on a hostile level was we were too good customers to lose. Now all bets are off, China is richer than ever, and America is fucking stupider than ever.
 

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Unless Sony has 20 million PS5s in a warehouse somewhere, they might miss out on that massive stimulus. I know they've been trying to stockpile PS5s in anticipation of this already.
They stockpilled a good chunk of consoles. Obviously not 20M, but I assume enough for a few weeks, that may give them some time to try to reduce the long term impact of the tariffs, as could be to move the production to Mexico. As an example, they could use the MS ones now they'll stop making Xboxes. Sony may also drop or lose the profit they may had in units sold in USA.

I assume that depending on the tariffs, at some point Sony will need to rise the price for US, maybe $100 or more likely $50. I think people will continue buying PS5 even if in the month where the price increase may be applied they could go down temporally a bit.

Will Rockstar delay the game?
No, tariffs shouldn't affect games like GTAVI because it's an american company that doesn't buy goods from other countries. Most of the people will buy it already has a console, so if console sales slow down a bit won't affect them a lot, and to delay it wouldn't solve anything.

If something, I think the only way tariffs can affect GTAVI would be making them to speed up the PC port release in order to compensate the slight decrease in launch windows for the consoles version sales.

What about Microcock? They barely had any inventory in stores to begin with, are they gonna get screwed?
Xbox is dead, GTAVI won't resurrect it.
 
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We'll get an idea of how much Sony surged inventory in their next quarterly report which is due in about a month. Sony can produce 2-3 million PS5s per month. So stockpiling shouldn't have been that difficult.

They haven't stopped the Astro Bot sale, which I think would be the first sign that they were worried about inventory for GTA6. We'll also see their fiscal year expectations. If you would expect maybe 16 million units this year, 1.5 million in Japan, you might expect about 7 million in the US.

It wouldn't have been difficult to get up to 7 million units here since January/February and that doesn't include stock already on hand.

Not every copy of GTA6 is going to go to a new consumer. If they sell out, I think they'll address it then, but that would mean the demand is strong enough to raise the price through the tariffs.

Microsoft on the other hand is in real trouble. They wouldn't have stockpiled because they can't saturate retail the way Sony can. The only thing they can do is more easily absorb the costs, but they'd need an exception from Nadella to do that. It's clear he doesn't want to eat any subsidies on Xbox, so something would have to give.
 
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No it won't even make a dent. Look at the prices of eBay nvidia graphics cards right now. People are paying double msrp as a normal fact of life now.

People will pay, new consoles will sell.
 
China tarriffs at 104% with china retalitaing with 84% tariffs on the US.

Get those kidneys checked and ready to be sold folks.
 
Well the last recession we just changed the definition, so we can just do that again right?

China's economy can't hold up a trade war for long.

The problem is that Trump is making a trade war with everyone. Even allied countries, that make games, chips and consoles.
The boon we had in the last century was due to low tariffs and a ton of mutual trade agreements, that eased trade and lowered prices.

US companies, still have some stock that they gathered in expectation to Trump's tariffs, but as those end, prices all around will rise, sooner or later.
 
Feel like I'm in some alternate reality or there's some Mandela effect shit going on cause I was born in the U.S, grew up watching lots of movies and games. Was pretty social throughout my life and I have never ever heard of the Tariff word before until these past few months lol.

The Inflation and greed were already bad enough, now also gonna worry about this new Tariff thing that I never knew existed until recently that's increasing my game and PC part prices.
 
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The problem is that Trump is making a trade war with everyone. Even allied countries, that make games, chips and consoles.
The boon we had in the last century was due to low tariffs and a ton of mutual trade agreements, that eased trade and lowered prices.

US companies, still have some stock that they gathered in expectation to Trump's tariffs, but as those end, prices all around will rise, sooner or later.

And 70+ countries are already trying to meet to do new trade deals doesn't always ream US assholes. This had to be done imo.
All countries should lookout for themselves more and not rely on handouts from the US. Even if we have to pay more for goods.
It's weird hearing people champion for child labor slavery. Even that Crockett chick was like, lets get the illegals here to pick cotton . . . like we did as slaves.
 
It looks like Sony may be limiting Astro Bot bundles at general retail, so that should be kept an eye on. Lead time on the digital at Amazon is about two weeks suggesting that local amazon distribution is out or they're waiting for a new shipment from Sony. The standard bundle is sold out with no new lead times. I'll look at some other retailers for a clearer picture.
 
Feel like I'm in some alternate reality or there's some Mandela effect shit going on cause I was born in the U.S, grew up watching lots of movies and games. Was pretty social throughout my life and I have never ever heard of the Tariff word before until these past few months lol.

The Inflation and greed were already bad enough, now also gonna worry about this new Tariff thing that I never knew existed until recently that's increasing my game and PC part prices.

That's because the last time USA went all in on tariffs at this kind of scale was 1930, the Smoot-Hawley tariffs. And I can let you guess what happened with just +20% average. The fallout of this economical fuckup is pretty much linked to the start of WW2.

Topher Topher would remember.
 
And 70+ countries are already trying to meet to do new trade deals doesn't always ream US assholes. This had to be done imo.
All countries should lookout for themselves more and not rely on handouts from the US. Even if we have to pay more for goods.
It's weird hearing people champion for child labor slavery. Even that Crockett chick was like, lets get the illegals here to pick cotton . . . like we did as slaves.

There were already trade deals in place that were mutual beneficial to the USA and other countries. Made by both by the Democratic and the Republican party.
And no, the USA was not giving handouts, that is just stupid propaganda from people that don't know about geopolitics.
Don't try to make this about child slavery, no one is defending that.
People are defending free trade, rule of law and peaceful treaties.
Regardless, of what you might think, the fact remains that prices will increase, it's a matter of "when", not "if".

Here is a proper Republican, explaining why tariffs are a terrible idea.
 
By the time GTA comes out, maybe over the fall all the stuff will either be priced in at that point. So all adjustments will have been made. If prices are higher then yes it will affect them. If they have leveled off, no. Also a bigger effect will be the US economy. Do we enter into deflation or do we have no growth. Is the US economy growing and many other factors. Trying to eliminate trade deficits is hard, and it took years (30) to get where we are.
 
I think just about all this will be settled within a month. People are being hyperbolic. Won't affect holiday.

It's not "people" who are worried, it's the entire financial system panicking.


Stocks tumble again as Trump hits China with 104% tariffs, Treasuries slammed

By Amanda Cooper
April 9, 20252:22 PM GMT+2Updated an hour ago

Summary
  • Trump's tariffs on China trigger fears of recession
  • U.S. Treasuries and dollar hit by selloff, yields rise sharply
  • Global markets face crisis-era volatility, stocks and commodities plummet
LONDON, April 9 (Reuters) - Global markets were shaken on Wednesday by the latest escalation in the trade war between the United States and China, which has unleashed a savage selloff in U.S. assets as investors dumped stocks, bonds and the dollar.
President Donald Trump's eye-watering 104% tariffs on China came into effect on Wednesday, prompting a swift retaliation from Beijing in the form of duties of 84% on U.S. imports.

The seemingly wholesale push out of Treasuries and the dollar - effectively the backbone of the global financial system - could be symptomatic of a broader loss in investor desire to hold U.S. assets in general and "the end of an era", according to Deutsche Bank head of foreign exchange research George Saravelos.

"We are witnessing a simultaneous collapse in the price of all U.S. assets including equities, the dollar versus alternative reserve FX and the bond market. We are entering uncharted territory in the global financial system," he said.

This week has brought crisis-era volatility to markets, wiping off trillions of dollars in value from stocks and hitting commodities and emerging markets with force.
Many now fear Trump's wide-ranging tariffs will be severe enough to trigger a recession
and force the Federal Reserve into cutting interest rates, and so they dumped their Treasury holdings, driving up yields as bond prices dropped.

The dollar - usually the ultimate safe haven in times of turmoil - fell broadly, as investors dashed into the likes of gold and the Swiss franc, accelerating the flight from stocks and industrial commodities.

The benchmark U.S. 10-year note yield was up almost 20 basis points on the day at 4.456%, bringing its rise over the last three days to around 40 bps, one of the most aggressive increases in such a short timeframe in the last 25 years.

"Last week was an equity story but, as ever, it's moved from an equity story to the more important bond story," said Chris Beauchamp, chief strategist at IG. "This is the financial plumbing and clearly, the plumbing has begun to seize up."
Potentially adding to the pressure on Treasuries was an auction of new 10-year notes later on - hot on the heels of a weak three-year sale the day before - that could prove a crucial litmus test of investor appetite for U.S. government debt.

"This seemingly 'sell America' trade is one that's now dominating the rising recession risk theme that typically would have pushed yields down," economists at ING said.

COSTLY 'GAME OF CHICKEN'

The shifting headlines on tariffs and the spectre of a prolonged trade war between the world's two biggest economies has generated severe volatility across financial markets.
The S&P 500 was swept up in one of the biggest reversals in at least the last 50 years, with the benchmark index losing 4.2 percentage points from a positive start to a negative finish on Tuesday. The index has lost $5.8 trillion in stock market value, the deepest four-day loss since it was created in the 1950s.

Analysts at JPMorgan believed the rapid escalation in U.S. tariffs on China would be sufficiently disruptive to push the global economy into recession.
"Given the import bill from China, the China tariff alone amounts to a whopping $400 billion tax hike on U.S. households and businesses," they said in a note to clients. "The currency is likely to be a release valve for China policymakers."
Safe-haven currencies such as the yen and Swiss franc soared, leaving the dollar down 1.3% at 145.45 yen and down 0.8% to 0.84 Swiss francs .
Oil prices tumbled 6% to below $60 a barrel, as concern over the outlook for global energy demand outweighed any nervousness on the geopolitical front. Gold, meanwhile, rallied 3% to $3,070 an ounce.
 
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There were already trade deals in place that were mutual beneficial to the USA and other countries. Made by both by the Democratic and the Republican party.
And no, the USA was not giving handouts, that is just stupid propaganda from people that don't know about geopolitics.
Don't try to make this about child slavery, no one is defending that.
People are defending free trade, rule of law and peaceful treaties.
Regardless, of what you might think, the fact remains that prices will increase, it's a matter of "when", not "if".

Here is a proper Republican, explaining why tariffs are a terrible idea.


So all the countries have tariffs on the US to create trade deficits for us is "free trade". To me free trade is both sides dropping tariffs which is starting to happen with some countries.
If the US goes under from all the debt, the whole western world will fall. I'd eliminate almost all foreign aid, to pretend the US doesn't do handouts is laughable.
And yes the people clutching their pearls about prices are promoting child labor. There is no if ands or buts. No matter how you want to bury your head in the sand.
 
I'm sure Sony has already stockpiled millions of ps5s down the back of the couch where they kept all those ps2s so they can magically pull them out when needed.
 
So all the countries have tariffs on the US to create trade deficits for us is "free trade". To me free trade is both sides dropping tariffs which is starting to happen with some countries.
If the US goes under from all the debt, the whole western world will fall. I'd eliminate almost all foreign aid, to pretend the US doesn't do handouts is laughable.
And yes the people clutching their pearls about prices are promoting child labor. There is no if ands or buts. No matter how you want to bury your head in the sand.

The table that Trump posted is not even real and does not represent the tariffs that countries have on the USA.
Yes, several countries have specific tariffs that target very specific elements. That includes the USA before Trump.
Countries do have interest in protecting some targeted industries.
But nothing as wide and idiotic as what Trump is doing. And because of that all other countries are already signing retaliatory tariffs and making deals with other countries that are not the USA.
Seriously, South Korea, Japan and China are now making close deals due to Trump's tariffs. If you know anything about XX century history, then you realize why this is unprecedented.

Since you don't understand why the USA gives aid, I'll have to explain a few examples. But basically it's because the USA is buying political influence. And this is something that both the Republican and Democratic party have done for the past century.
It's not really giving money, it's buying allies, deals, treaties, good will. In case you haven't notice, prior to Trump, the USA had a gigantic list of allied countries, that were willing to help the USA.
This is something that a country like China doesn't have, but it's trying to acquire. But because of Trump, China will now have an easier job.

Yes, if the USA enters a recession, the whole world will also be affected. But what you might have not noticed, is that countries are already moving away from the USA, because they consider this Administration as unreliable.
Anther thing you might want to consider is that a POTUS should be working for the USA not to enter a recession, not to provoke one, such as Trump is doing.

And stop trying to pretend this is about child labor, Trump, or any other POTUS, never cared one bit about that.
Just consider that the EU, Japan, Australia, South Korea, Canada don't allow for child labor and are still affected by tariffs.

You will get price increases, because it's always the final costumer that pays for them.
That is how tariffs work and have always worked. So you will eventually pay more for games, consoles, GPUs, CPUs, cars, etc.
 
No way the trade wars end so soon. You guys better be ready for the worst recession in modern history. Be ready for GTA 6 to cost $100 and other games $90 with prices never going down to what they used to while your paycheck stays mostly the same.
 
So all the countries have tariffs on the US to create trade deficits for us is "free trade". To me free trade is both sides dropping tariffs which is starting to happen with some countries.
If the US goes under from all the debt, the whole western world will fall. I'd eliminate almost all foreign aid, to pretend the US doesn't do handouts is laughable.
And yes the people clutching their pearls about prices are promoting child labor. There is no if ands or buts. No matter how you want to bury your head in the sand.
There are countries that the US has a trade surplus with, and no tariffs against. They still got tariffed.
Japan has no tariffs on American cars. US slapped a 25% tariff on Japanese cars.
Trade deficits to begin with, are not inherently a bad thing. It just means Americans buy a lot of stuff.
 
Analysist predict prices will stay the same in U.S until they no longer can. Remember that the perfebtage of fully grown domestic producta are very small, nothing in the world is produced in the same country. You can get ready to pay $1000+ on the PS5

It's very likely that unless Trumps backtracks and start accepting those 0% tarif deals offered to the U.S, the country will be looking at hyper inflation while the rest of the world moves on with new deals. There's a reason why the market is in panic mode and why the BRICS want to make their own currency.
 
Of course. If these are still around when GTA comes out, PS5 and XSX will both be considerably more expensive.
 
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