They really, really need to give James Wan the JL keys when Snyder leaves. It's astounding to see the guy who made Saw get the keys to full on blockbusters, and still go off and make these horror films that make solid money at the box office.
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They really, really need to give James Wan the JL keys when Snyder leaves. It's astounding to see the guy who made Saw get the keys to full on blockbusters, and still go off and make these horror films that make solid money at the box office.
AmaterasuOni
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He's a true visionaire. He can build up tension and atmosphere. I absolutely loved Furious 7 as well. IMO the best one in the franchise.
Discotheque
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Nah. Furious 7 was a big step down from 5 and 6. Though not his fault on that one considering the circumstances.
Insidious movies suck. Conjuring was good though. And I'm gonna check this new one out soon too. I also sorta enjoyed death sentence.
Dudes not bad but his filmography is so hit or miss. Actually it's mostly miss. Though they tend to have a good eye behind them and he's got potential.
Insidious movies suck. Conjuring was good though. And I'm gonna check this new one out soon too. I also sorta enjoyed death sentence.
Dudes not bad but his filmography is so hit or miss. Actually it's mostly miss. Though they tend to have a good eye behind them and he's got potential.
BronsonLee
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I fucking hate James Wan movies
Discotheque
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I hope he brings some horror element to aquaman though. Spooky things under the sea and shit lol.
Do you like horror movies?
BronsonLee
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No cause I'm a little bitch
That explains it.
And your rational is?
Because that's why he was picked for Furious 7 and almost definitely had a bearing on why he was picked for Aquaman?
I mean I cant say I hate his films (even if Saw 2 is better than the original) but I hardly see him as the type of guy who could lead a cinematic universe with a dramatic vision. About the only thing he introduced to modern cinema is the hyper-kinetic editing from Saw.
You do realize he turned down Furious 8 (and life altering money) to do Conjuring 2 right?
Sometimes you have to do movies like Furious 7 to allow you to do whatever you want. He's doing Aquaman because he likes the charterer, the challenge, and probably control.
I don't see how he's a director for hire?
Those are just predictions based on early Friday
Friday Studio Estimates
1) The Conjuring 2 - $16.4M
2) Warcraft - $10.7M
3) Now You See Me 2 - $8.4M
4) Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows - $4.0M - $50M total
5) Me Before You - $3.1M - $31M total
6) X-Men Apocalypse - $2.7M - $129M total
7) The Angry Birds Movie - $1.8M - $93M total
8) Alice: Through the Looking Glass - $1.7M - $59M total
9) Captain America: Civil War - $1.2M - $394M total
10) The Jungle Book - $735k - $351M total
Apocalypse fell that much 2 weeks after its release, yet Civil War is still hanging onto the Top 10. I don't know if that speaks well for Civil War's legs or poorly for Apocalypse's staying-power.
Boxoffice.com updated their long range predictions list
New Predictions:
Suicide Squad - $98M OW - $275M total
The Founder - $8.5M OW - $32M total
Nine Lives - $9M OW - $33M total
Changes:
Central Intelligence - $35M OW - $108M total (previously $38M OW / $123M total)
Boxoffice.com kept Independence Day Resurgence at $47M OW - $125M total
By now, opening weekend predictions for Jurassic World were creeping up. Final predictions were still way off the mark (around $125-140M OW IIRC), but it's weird to see ID4 stay relatively low 2 weeks from release.
New Predictions:
Suicide Squad - $98M OW - $275M total
The Founder - $8.5M OW - $32M total
Nine Lives - $9M OW - $33M total
Changes:
Central Intelligence - $35M OW - $108M total (previously $38M OW / $123M total)
Boxoffice.com kept Independence Day Resurgence at $47M OW - $125M total
By now, opening weekend predictions for Jurassic World were creeping up. Final predictions were still way off the mark (around $125-140M OW IIRC), but it's weird to see ID4 stay relatively low 2 weeks from release.
Bobby Roberts
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Suicide Squad at 275, huh? At least that's a movie finally getting in that $200 mil range.
Still say they're way underpredicting Resurgence. Like, by a lot. Maybe they're hearing some shit the rest of us are not privy to or something.
Still say they're way underpredicting Resurgence. Like, by a lot. Maybe they're hearing some shit the rest of us are not privy to or something.
Yeah, that is kinda confusing me?
They have been using social media activity, trailer views, etc to develop their own method of advance tracking for several years. Their final OW predictions have been fairly accurate this year so far, barring a few missteps like Civil War, which everyone outside of Disney was overpredicting. Obviously this doesn't preclude a massive underprediction in this case.
What is particularly peculiar to me is that I can't find much tracking news at all for ID4 outside of Boxofice Pro. If it was poised to blow up, the trades would be talking about it by now. We are only two weeks from release.
Matt_
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I can't see ID2 doing that badly.
There wont have been a big budget blockbuster since X men and theres not one after (that will do well) until star trek or Jason Bourne
Finding Dory might take away some of the audience but the audience isnt going to overlap massively.
It should at least match 2012's opening of $65M
There wont have been a big budget blockbuster since X men and theres not one after (that will do well) until star trek or Jason Bourne
Finding Dory might take away some of the audience but the audience isnt going to overlap massively.
It should at least match 2012's opening of $65M
Yeah, a $65-70M opening and somewhere over $150M seems to be on the low side of things, but a lot of people have been calling ID4 this year's Jurassic World. I think the likelihood of that is decreasing quickly barring some amazing WOM in the next week or so (not sure when early reviews/screenings start).
Collider already had Jurassic World at $113M Opening on Jun 2nd, which was 10 days before release. Other sites/trades were predicting similar openings at that point. ID4 is out in 14 days.
PhoncipleBone
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I wonder what is holding back ID4R then. Unless it is like the Scott Pilgrim effect and we are living in an echo chamber or something.
Maybe they haven't had a major money shot to sell it with like they did the original.
Ninja Scooter
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i've been of the mind for months that ID2 won't do as well as people seem to have predicted. It just doesn't feel like ID4 has the same kind of reverence as Jurassic Park did in terms of a 90s film franchise, and Will Smith not being in it just makes the whole thing feel sort of cheap.
Bobby Roberts
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But nobody really gives much of a fuck about Will Smith anymore
1st Course
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Soon Warcraft will pass Prince of Persia as the highest grossing movie based on a video game adaptation.
How much of that is China?
CoD:IW is going to bomb so hard based on this logic.
There's an article up in the site explaining how they use that info to come up with tracking. Posting gifs doesn't negate social media as a useful tool for guaging audience awareness. A lot if companies do the same thing for various products, and there are more than enough movie releases to build rough statistical models over the course of a few years. Granted, your megablockbusters will be harder to get an accurate picture of since they are rare. I think its becoming clear that the MCU films need adjusting down a bit relative to similar films for instance. Tracking is also less accurate the further you are from release.
I cant think of many films that did more than double boxoffice.com's forecast. So the $300-400M domestic predictions we were seeing from some people here during the past couple of months are probably not in the cards, even if that $49M OW / $125M total prediction is way too low.
there's that and the fact movies like ID4 are a dime a dozen these days
Smokey_Run
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No one gives a fuck because he hasn't been in a good blockbuster in almost a decade now. If he could knock one out of the park, people would give a fuck again.
Bobby Roberts
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We're about to find out with Suicide Squad whether that's actually true or not.
Smokey_Run
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Indeed we will. Is he actually doing Bad Boys 3?
SargerusBR
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Imagine how much more money it would get if it was released like 5 years ago.
I was thinking/hoping Independence Day Resurgence would do really well. Not as well as the original did, obviously -- at least domestically -- but still really well. Seems like it has everything going for it -- except public interest. It's a shame, if it's a good movie. Hopefully the international markets carry it.
I don't know, it seems aside from superhero flicks and Disney films, this has been a savage year at the box office. Even as a comic book fan, I'm rooting for just about every movie to break out now, just to get a little variety.
I don't know, it seems aside from superhero flicks and Disney films, this has been a savage year at the box office. Even as a comic book fan, I'm rooting for just about every movie to break out now, just to get a little variety.
Probably less than it is making today. 5 years ago the Chinese gross would have been $80-100M. I doubt domestic and Europe would have made an extra $150M five years ago on the strength of the film we got to counterbalance the difference.
Bobby Roberts
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I was thinking it might do that anyway. The initial teaser seemed to strike chords that reminded people strongly of both Matrix and Inception. Marvel Matriception, if you will.
Combine that with the cast they put together for the thing, they're ahead of the game even if the word of mouth isn't great - which is still a possibility, definitely.
And while I'm not sure calling Resurgence "This year's Jurassic World" is fair, I don't know that less than $200mil domestic sounds likely, either. I dunno. Maybe we are in the tunnel on that one.
What was tracking saying Deadpool would do two weeks out?
$76M OW, $175M total.
I think Deadpool being R-rated and in February made it harder to predict, but even then it's out of nowhere blow-up was 74% higher OW and 107% higher total.
The same for ID4 would be $85M OW, and $260M total.
Not considering the fact that there is less that is exceptional about ID4, and the fact that it will most likely not get the same sort of reviews that Deadpool received.
Jawmuncher
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Popstar deserves better. Best movie I've seen this summer.
Bobby Roberts
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Yeah, that seems closer to the ceiling I had in mind, depending on decent-ish reviews (for ID4, that is) and okay w.o.m. Those BoxOffice projections feel more like the floor to me.
I dunno. Should be interesting.
They had the film opening to $60-something million and around $170M total a couple of weeks back and then dropped it. I'm not sure what prompted that decision.
Turtles was always going to have a big drop as I discussed last Sunday. I actually think it could have been worse. The drop might end up under 60% if the Saturday iscrease is good enough, which puts this weekend on the higher end of what I figured.
I Am Legend
Hancock
MIB 3 (Decent gross but huge budget)
All within the least decade. The Pursuit of Happyness did great at the BO on a smaller budget.
More like the last 5-7 years.
Smith has done two 100M+ budget films in the last 8 years before SS.
Yes, I read that article and still find the "analysis" hilarious. Like I said, based on that logic, Infinite Warfare is going to bomb so hard .. Social media can be used effectively and there are ways just not the amateurish way BO.com goes about it.
I'll continue to post gifs.
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