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[Random Human]

Ghostbusters as a sequel - 50 million from the budget + more nostalgia + more fanservice = probably a decent hit.

I just realized Sony seems to be doing the same thing again with Jumaniji, which looks stupid expensive and is a hard reboot that can't be sold on nostalgia. Something in the water over there.

 

[lightskintwin]

I wonder how much of that was coming from the fact that people over 40 actually went to the movies in the 80s. Discounting animation, The 2017 version of Look Who's Talking is a meme that your aunt posts on facebook.

Probably a lot. I grew up in the 80's. Films were a much bigger deal in America then than they are now. I remember how a hit movie could stay in the theaters for a year. Now we are spoiled with so much good and even bad media from all outlets traditional, digital and otherwise.

You probably have the occasional film now that will bring out people over 40.

 

[Mechazawa]

*claps*

 

[MHWilliams]

Probably a lot. I grew up in the 80's. Films were a much bigger deal in America then than they are now. I remember how a hit movie could stay in the theaters for a year. Now we are spoiled with so much good and even bad media from all outlets traditional, digital and otherwise.

You probably have the occasional film now that will bring out people over 40.

Yeah, we've had a few. Older, rural folks saved Going In Style and made it profitable. I believe Wonder Woman's legs were also the result of female and 50+ audiences turning out.

The scuttle for older folks is apparently they're the ones making arthouse and indie film profitable.

 

[lightskintwin]

Yeah, we've had a few. Older, rural folks saved Going In Style and made it profitable. I believe Wonder Woman's legs were also the result of female and 50+ audiences turning out.

The scuttle for older folks is apparently they're the ones making arthouse and indie film profitable.

I think they came out for Hidden Figures due to the American history, NASA true story, American heroes. Hence it's long run in the theaters.

They probably came out for Hacksaw Ridge too for the American history, American hero, World War 2.

 

[kswiston]

The scuttle for older folks is apparently they're the ones making arthouse and indie film profitable.

Because a lot of those films are fine if they can bring in $20-30M domestic.

I will say that I was well under the average age of my Dunkirk showing. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of the people in the audience were in the Korean War. One guy might have even been a WW2 vet. He looked and moved like he was 90.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Yeah, if you can get old folks in the theater, you're probably doing a pretty good job since a lot of olds are just too tired and ornery to get em off their computers and out into the real wo—

shit. Wait.

 

[Tobor]

Three Men and a Baby is notable for this little tidbit as well:

The film grossed USD$170 million. It was notable for the Walt Disney Studios since it was the first production from the studio to gross over $100 million domestically

Times really have changed.

 

[kswiston]

Three Men and a Baby is notable for this little tidbit as well:

Times really have changed.

Disney largely coasted of their back catalogue for much of the 70s and 80s. They had a bunch of profitable family series, like the Herbie films, but not much in the way of blockbusters until the later part of the 80s.

That was a different era though. Bambi was re-released 3 times between 1975 and 1988, and made over $80M combined between the showings. Basically the modern equivalent of Emoji movie cash with every re-release. Outside of a few films at the start of the 3D craze, people rarely bother with re-releases this decade.

 

[lightskintwin]

For future reference and for those that wanna know, the biggest budget ever for a predominately Black cast film are 3 movies at 80 million production budget.

Beloved in 1998. (Post Slavery Horror Drama film directed by Jonathan Demme and starred Oprah Winfrey, Danny Glover, and Thandie Newton). It only made 22 million box office.

Life in 1999 (Comedy-Drama film directed by Ted Demme, yes he's the nephew of Jonatan Demme, and starred Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence) It made 73 million box office.

Dreamgirls in 2006 (Musical film directed by Bill Condon and starred an ensemble cast of Beyonce, Jamie Foxx, Eddie Murphy, Danny Glover, and Jennifer Hudson) It made 155 million box office and went on to be nominated for 5 Academy Awards.

I'm pretty certain somewhere between a third to half the budget for Life were for Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence's salary alone.

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Yeah, Disney was basically flailing/broken for the late 70s/early 80s.

Utterly confused.

fuckin' CONDORMAN.

 

[3N16MA]

Because a lot of those films are fine if they can bring in $20-30M domestic.

I will say that I was well under the average age of my Dunkirk showing. I wouldn't be surprised if a couple of the people in the audience were in the Korean War. One guy might have even been a WW2 vet. He looked and moved like he was 90.

All the old asses in BO GAF (myself included) need to get in another viewing of Dunkirk before it leaves the big screen.

Makes you feel 18.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Three Men and a Baby is notable for this little tidbit as well:

Times really have changed.

I wonder how many people remember that Leonard Nimoy directed it. It's one of those movies I haven't seen since I was a kid, but I remember liking it a lot and don't want to risk torching that memory by seeing it as an adult.

I've had....bad experiences with doing that to 80's films.

 

[hodayathink]

No different than Oprah contributing to the 80 million budget for a post slavery Horror Drama film with Beloved in the late 90's. What the fuck were they thinking how big the audience would be to justify a budget that high?

I can understand it for a legit passion project, though. Like, I can see someone wanting to see Beloved on the screen bad enough that they're willing to put that much money into it. Ghostbusters, on the other hand, was a kinda-sorta Amy Pascal project that she couldn't get anyone to direct until Feig said yes, and IIRC he actually declined the first time they asked him to do it. Like, as the head of the studio, if you're having that hard of a time finding someone to do this movie, then maybe that means there isn't much interest on the consumer side of it as well, so you might wanna tone down the budget a bit.

 

[lightskintwin]

I can understand it for a legit passion project, though. Like, I can see someone wanting to see Beloved on the screen bad enough that they're willing to put that much money into it. Ghostbusters, on the other hand, was a kinda-sorta Amy Pascal project that she couldn't get anyone to direct until Feig said yes, and IIRC he actually declined the first time they asked him to do it. Like, as the head of the studio, if you're having that hard of a time finding someone to do this movie, then maybe that means there isn't much interest on the consumer side of it as well, so you might wanna tone down the budget a bit.

Oh ok, i get what you're saying and I agree. Ghostbusters felt like it was all over the place. I have no idea how it got a budget that large.

You're right that Beloved was a passion project that Oprah absolutely believed in.

Even recently she said:

"To this day I ask myself, was it a mistake? Was it a mistake to not try and make [it] a more commercial film? To take some things out and tell the story differently so that it would be more palatable to an audience? Well, if you wanted to make a film that everybody would see, then that would be a mistake. But at the time, I was pleased with the film that we did because it represented to me the essence of the Beloved book."

 

[kswiston]

For future reference and for those that wanna know, the biggest budget ever for a predominately Black cast film are 3 movies at 80 million production budget.

Beloved in 1998. (Post Slavery Horror Drama film directed by Jonathan Demme and starred Oprah Winfrey, Danny Glover, and Thandie Newton). It only made 22 million box office.

Life in 1999 (Comedy-Drama film directed by Ted Demme, yes he's the nephew of Jonatan Demme, and starred Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence) It made 73 million box office.

Dreamgirls in 2006 (Musical film directed by Bill Condon and starred an ensemble cast of Beyonce, Jamie Foxx, Eddie Murphy, Danny Glover, and Jennifer Hudson) It made 155 million box office and went on to be nominated for 5 Academy Awards.

I'm pretty certain somewhere between a third to half the budget for Life were for Eddie Murphy and Martin Lawrence's salary alone.

This record will easily be broken in February.

 

[MHWilliams]

Oh ok, i get what you're saying and I agree. Ghostbusters felt like it was all over the place. I have no idea how it got a budget that large.

You're right that Beloved was a passion project that Oprah absolutely believed in.

Even recently she said:

I think Beloved is a fine idea for a film.

It's not a fine idea for an $80 million film in 1998.

This record will easily be broken in February.

I still watch the trailer every other day to get me hyped.

 

[OrangeAtlas]

Wasn't a chunk of Ghostbusters' budget just all the aborted attempts at Ghostbusters 3 over the past couple of decades being rolled in?

 

[lightskintwin]

This record will easily be broken in February.

No doubt. Just posted it as a reference.

I think Beloved is a fine idea for a film.

It's not a fine idea for an $80 million film in 1998.

Agreed, but it shows how people were testing the boundaries budget wise to see what was feasible for different type of films.

 

[shintoki]

I think Beloved is a fine idea for a film.

It's not a fine idea for an $80 million film in 1998.

I don't think it's fine for a 80mil dollar film, even now.


Life is good shit though.

 

[Jigorath]

Wasn't a chunk of Ghostbusters' budget just all the aborted attempts at Ghostbusters 3 over the past couple of decades being rolled in?

I doubt it. It's not like Ghostbusters 3 ever got off the ground in any meaningful capacity.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

I remember the hullabaloo about the ghost being on screen in Three Men and a Baby.

 

[kswiston]

Three Men and a Baby is one of those films that I know that I watched at some point in the late 80s or 90s, but I can't remember anything about it.

Look Who's Talking left more of an impression because it came at an age where I was too young to get the context of some scenes, but old enough to know that I was missing something. That whole talking sperm thing was pretty confusing to my seven year old self.

 

[PhoncipleBone]

I'll forever remember Look Who's Talking for this line:
"When you squeeze something the size of a watermelon out of an opening the size of a lemon, think about how you'd look."
Or something like that.

 

[wachie]

I think that I did well enough with my predictions to not embarrass myself.

Nah, all who posted in that thread have embarrassed themselves. I would have too if I participated.

WW & Transformers surprised the fuck out of everyone's predictions. Two opposite ends of the spectrum.

 

[LordOfLore]

The look on Goldblum's face.

A first look at the Shazam script.

Spoiler

 

[milanbaros]

Is there a reason why SM Homecoming is doing very well domestically (it will surpass Amazing Spider-Man adjusted, which I think has to have been the primary goal), but disappoint internationally? Are there still markets to open?

 

[sackninja]

Is there a reason why SM Homecoming is doing very well domestically (it will surpass Amazing Spider-Man adjusted, which I think has to have been the primary goal), but disappoint internationally? Are there still markets to open?

Still has yet to open in China and Japan.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

Is there a reason why SM Homecoming is doing very well domestically (it will surpass Amazing Spider-Man adjusted, which I think has to have been the primary goal), but disappoint internationally? Are there still markets to open?

The two Amazing Spider-Man movies made around 100 million from China and Japan so Homecoming is missing that number. It should be able to reach $700 million without both markets and then top out $800 and above once it opens in China and Japan.

 

[Joni]

I just realized Sony seems to be doing the same thing again with Jumaniji, which looks stupid expensive and is a hard reboot that can't be sold on nostalgia. Something in the water over there.

It is a sequel though? It even has a little

Spoiler

Robin Williams appearance

although it lacks in other cameo appearances. I can understand Bonnie Hunt would be bad without Robin Williams and that Dunst is unavailable for such a movie, but they should have tried for Jonathan Hyde or David Alan Grier.

 

[LordOfLore]

Korea Box Office: ‘Taxi Driver’ Revs up Third Biggest Opening of All Time

China Box Office: ‘Wolf Warriors II’ Earns $161 Million, Becomes Second Biggest Film of All Time

 

[Lima]

Look my man Kretschmann in a Korean film. So weird.

 

[Busty]

Ghostbusters as a sequel - 50 million from the budget + more nostalgia + more fanservice = probably a decent hit.

I seriously doubt it. They played up the nostalgia and fanservice angle with the (albeit baffling) cameos and it did the film no good.

I just don't think Ghostbusters is going to be a big draw in this day and age. It's possible that the core concept (chasing ghosts in a comedic manner) is no longer appealing.

just realized Sony seems to be doing the same thing again with Jumaniji, which looks stupid expensive and is a hard reboot that can't be sold on nostalgia. Something in the water over there.

Apparently it has been testing really well..., but I heard the same thing about CHIPs so make of that what you will.

 

[Random Human]

Shit, why the hell did we have to talk about Ghostubsters last night, we obviously willed that RLM review into existence.

 

[MrPink93485]

Look my man Kretschmann in a Korean film. So weird.

I had no idea he was in that, love Kretschmann. Will watch if it comes to Netflix one day

 

[Lima]

I had no idea he was in that, love Kretschmann. Will watch if it comes to Netflix one day

Dude has charisma. I liked him even in the second Resident Evil movie.

 

[LordOfLore]

Skydance, Paramount Ink New Four-Year Deal

Skydance Media is staying put at Paramount.

The David Ellison run production company has signed a four-year deal with the studio, with the goal of producing three to four features a year. Under the deal, Paramount will have the opportunity to co-finance and distribute Skydance productions, while Skydance will retain the option to co-produce and co-finance certain of Paramount's feature films.

Upcoming projects include a new Mission Impossible, a World War Z sequel and a new Top Gun movie, as well as Ang Lee's Gemini Man, starring Will Smith, and a Bermuda Trangle-set thriller from Sam Raimi. Skydance and Paramount are also plotting a relauch of the Terminator series, which may have James Cameron's involvement.

As a part of the deal, Paramount will distribute Skydance's recent forrays into animation. In March, the company announced it's first two animated projects: the comedy Luck, the directorial debut of veteran animator Alessandro Carloni, and Split, a fantasy project from Vicky Jenson. All animation project will be don in partnership with Spain's Ilion Animation Studios.

”We have the utmost confidence in Paramount's bright future under the strategic direction of Jim Gianopulos, and we look forward to continuing to partner with him and the world-class leadership team that he has put in place," said Ellison, in a statement.

Added Gianopulos: ”David and his team have been creative producers on films in some of the most successful action-adventure and science fiction franchises of all time, and we're thrilled that Skydance movies will feature prominently on the Paramount slate for years to come."

Skydance's upcoming releases include the much-delayed environmental disaster movie Geostorm via Warner Bros. and Alex Garland's Annihilation.

IMAX Hires Sky Veteran Denny Tu for Branding Push

 

[kswiston]

Nah, all who posted in that thread have embarrassed themselves. I would have too if I participated.

WW & Transformers surprised the fuck out of everyone's predictions. Two opposite ends of the spectrum.

That happens every year. Not being omniscient =/= embarrassing yourself.

But hey, it's always easiest to not participate and then sit there serving out crow that you had no stake in!

 

[Bobby Roberts]

Look, there is nothing higher-stakes than being wrong about something trivial on the internet.

There just isn't.

GOD HELP YOU if it happens.

 

[BronsonLee]

Skydance, Paramount Ink New Four-Year Deal

Holy shit, could you imagine if Skydance went elsewhere? Paramount would have nothing

That happens every year. Not being omniscient =/= embarrassing yourself.

But hey, it's always easiest to not participate and then sit there serving out crow that you had no stake in!

I participated! And I won! By law BGE has to buy me alcohol until 2019 now

 

[kswiston]

Look, there is nothing higher-stakes than being wrong about something trivial on the internet.

There just isn't.

GOD HELP YOU if it happens.

I guess that we all have to buy some scarlet L's to affix to our clothing. This is a mark that will not fade in time.

 

[Slayven]

Transformers got slapped down at the japanese box office

 

[kswiston]

Transformers got slapped down at the japanese box office

The series has been fading there since 3 I believe.

Wolf Warrior 2 made over $35M on Monday, bringing its total to $505M. It has made over $30M for 11 consecutive days.

 

[Slayven]

The series has been fading there since 3 I believe.

Wolf Warrior 2 made over $35M on Monday, bringing its total to $505M. It has made over $30M for 11 consecutive days.

Funny thing it got beat by the sequel to a show that is currently airing and the premise was base on VR>

 

[Ignatz Mouse]

I've said in these threads that I think some kid's movies are reviewed unfairly harsh.

I'm here to report that this is not true for the Emoji Movie.

😭

I drew the short straw on this one, my wife dodged a bullet.

 

[wachie]

That happens every year. Not being omniscient =/= embarrassing yourself.

But hey, it's always easiest to not participate and then sit there serving out crow that you had no stake in!

It's okay, you embarrassed yourself. We're all humans.

I had no idea about the thread, I would have joined in the crow eating if I knew. Always like to share some crow.

 

[LordOfLore]

Do anyone here have any movie podcasts to recommend? I think Bobby mentioned one a few threads ago but I can't find it.

 

[El Topo]

Do anyone here have any movie podcasts to recommend? I think Bobby mentioned one a few threads ago but I can't find it.

Legitimate movie podcasts or comedy podcasts like We Hate Movies?

 

[LordOfLore]

Legitimate movie podcasts or comedy podcasts like We Hate Movies?

Any. Trying to find some new ones to listen to while at work between showings.

 

[J_Viper]

Do anyone here have any movie podcasts to recommend? I think Bobby mentioned one a few threads ago but I can't find it.

Film Junk is hysterical

Weekly Planet is fun for comic flick talk