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[FMXVII]

I never thought to do something like this before, even though I’ve always voted liberal, I have found I have agreed with some conservative ideas. Honestly expected I’d end up more in the middle.

I rolled this:



I hate the "Leftist Liberalism" of social media, #disbelieveallmen, etc, et al.

There is something wrong.

And it is not ME, nor my "mildly" Left-leaning Liberal arse.

 

[FMXVII]

This.

 

[Shantae]

I rolled this:



I hate the "Leftist Liberalism" of social media, #disbelieveallmen, etc, et al.

There is something wrong.

And it is not ME, nor my "mildly" Left-leaning Liberal arse.

Yeah, something is really not right. They’re fascists and don’t even know it. They somehow got this idea in their head that if they try to oppress white men, or just men, then it’s not oppression.

They like the scream male privilege as justification, which is totally bs. I came across this video recently that really just helps highlight why modern feminism is just messed up in its mentality:

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yeah, something is really not right. They’re fascists and don’t even know it. They somehow got this idea in their head that if they try to oppress white men, or just men, then it’s not oppression.

They like the scream male privilege as justification, which is totally bs. I came across this video recently that really just helps highlight why modern feminism is just messed up in its mentality:

Barbara is great!

 

[TLZ]

What a sad outcome.

This will be a little scatterbrained, so please forgive me if the through lines are hard to follow, but it seems like the kangaroo court have never experienced an abusive relationship. On the one hand, that ignorance is great. I don't wish that experience on anyone. On the other hand, it's dangerous as evidenced here. I'll not bore anyone with the details, but I grew up with very abusive parents (both towards each other and their children). Through a sense of obligation, my father would not leave my mother even as she physically abused him. And through his cheating, alcoholism and unwillingness to express a solitary emotion, she'd not leave him either as she feared what her life would be like without him. The background. If you'd ask her about their relationship, she'd play the victim and never accept any fault for where their marriage arrived (even to this day). Thankfully, he is a little more self-aware of his many short comings. Things aren't always so black and white or good versus evil.

I don't know Alec and it sounds like he had plenty of baggage and demons, but it also sounds like he was putting in the work to be a better person. That doesn't mean he deserves forgiveness from those he abused, but:

"This story isn't about him - after years of therapy and working on himself, he reached out and apologized for everything, and I've forgiven him."

If this is an example of forgiveness, then I hope I'm never forgiven for my past transgressions.

The Internet and social media are such a drag sometimes. I'm all for #MeToo movements, but conflating the likes of Weinstein or Cosby with every accusation that pops up is dangerous. We should be able to appreciate the difference between an army of rape accusations tied back to a single abuser versus a solitary accusation tied to an abusive relationship. I'm fine with #BelieveHer, but should we #AskHim before cancelling him? I know I said I wouldn't get in details above, but Zoe's account reminded me of an re-occurrence in my family. Once or twice a week, my mother would pack her bags and load up the car with her youngest (me) in tow while swearing she was leaving him this time. Sometimes we made it out of the garage. Sometimes to the end of the drive way. Rarely onto the street. We never left.

I know very well what you're talking about. It trickles down to the kids. One might get urges because they were traumatic experiences. But keep fighting and suppressing those urges and it gets better. Needs a strong will indeed.

 

[Otterz4Life]

Not seeing any discussion about this whatsoever over on Resetera.

 

[Halo is Back]

Barbara is great!

Barbara she always spits the truth

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Lol the ArenaNet dev blocked me. I thought I was polite despite basically being unfairly called a Nazi

 

[Silent Chief]

I don't understand the up down axis.

Left and right came out of the National Assembly of 1789 that led to the French Revolution.
The Republicans who valued freedom and social progress sat on the left and the Royalist who valued order and religious tradition sat on the right.

You can't just try to fit communism, liberalism, anarchism, and everything else on 2 axis like that.
Essentially, the dichotomy changes in every legislature, but the right always represent the interest of the upper class and the left represent the interests of the lower classes. Both sides tries to portray themselves as also representing the middle class which in a developed country constitutes the majority of the population. The left recognizes human rights. The right recognizes property rights. The right wants less taxation. The left wants less poverty. Religion is used by the right to enforce voluntary submission of the masses.

Politics only applies to democracies. Authoritarian regimes don't care about human rights or property rights.
You have either the tyrant or the benevolent ruler. This includes kingdoms and communist states.

That and people studying political sciences have too much time on their hands.

 

[Deleted member 713885]

Lol the ArenaNet dev blocked me. I thought I was polite despite basically being unfairly called a Nazi

Where is the thread targeting minority devs? I have never seen it?

 

[JORMBO]

Not seeing any discussion about this whatsoever over on Resetera.

They locked their thread so people can't talk about it.

 

[EviLore]

Where is the thread targeting minority devs? I have never seen it?

It doesn't exist.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

Where is the thread targeting minority devs? I have never seen it?

I think I found it.

Oh wait no that's not it.

 

[Komatsu]

Guys, the issue here is not "feminism", One shouldn't paint a movement that has existed for over a hundred years in such broad strokes. That's mirror version of recent think pieces tarring "gamers" as "racists / misanthropic / etc".

Cancel Culture as we know it is a fairly recent phenomenon. We don't yet have a full account of how many lives, how many women and men, were ruined by it.

Lol the ArenaNet dev blocked me. I thought I was polite despite basically being unfairly called a Nazi

That's disappointing, given that you were very polite when interacting with her.

 

[Bryank75]

They locked their thread so people can't talk about it.

How cromulent!

 

[DeepEnigma]

Barbara she always spits the truth

I would wife her up.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

That's disappointing, given that you were very polite when interacting with her.

My mistake was disagreeing with her.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Lol the ArenaNet dev blocked me. I thought I was polite despite basically being unfairly called a Nazi

They can dish it out, but can’t take it, comrade.

 

[Inspector 2211]

I won't wish death on this lying cunt, but if I ever find out she died... I'm dancing a jig.

 

[brap]

I won't wish death on this lying cunt, but if I ever find out she died... I'm dancing a jig.

 

[Otterz4Life]

I’m sure this is tearing Zoe up inside, guys.

 

[Fuz]

My mistake was disagreeing with her.

We found the real nazi.

 

[danielberg]

Resetera bullies against devs and studios not to mention the secret discord pedo server they defended having.
I am glad we have resetera as a containment forum as it collects perverts and bullies from around the web.
Now the only question is how do you explain that to game industry people and press lol

 

[FMXVII]

I’m sure this is tearing Zoe up inside, guys.

A Zoe Koan:

What is the sound of hollow tearing?

 

[diesoon]

This bitch just removed how much money she gets from Patreon or how many patreon she has. Guess she doesnt want the world to know its shrinking.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Where is the thread targeting minority devs? I have never seen it?

It doesn't exist.

That' the net for you. The place where false accusations are flung around like nothing because nobody is ever going to go through the hassle of trying to legally go after anyone who is libelous.

And if something is so serious, it is not worth seeking legal action, it's probably pointless anyway because majority of these Twitter morons look like they are broke. They have nothing to lose. They either live with their parents or have a shitty rental unit hoping to pay it off with the $5 of ad fee clicks they get each day (if they are lucky).

If you work in an office and announce to everyone at work Bob did a crime (sexual assault, theft etc...), you better pray you are right. If you are not, not only will you likely get tossed, but also sued by the person you badmouthed on company email.

Only a small number of internet users become celebrity status raking in money.

There's a reason why most Twitter idiots are just that...... morons seeking cringy tweets for cash and clicks.

And why you almost never (at least I've never seen it) see someone creating a stir being someone who is clean cut and has and established job. When was the last time you saw someone with a Twitter bio with a real picture and name........... Director at Bank of America and video game commentator.

 

[Shantae]

I would wife her up.

I only just discovered her recently, and she makes me laugh. Undeniably she is pretty, but you know what I find makes her more attractive? How smart she is and how much sense she makes. I see so much bull shit in this industry, and so many self entitled women, that someone like her is so refreshing who gets it. If she ever marries someday, that’s gonna be a very lucky man.

 

[MiyazakiHatesKojima]

Any level headed person who stays on era after this is a total fuckwit

We a global phenomenon now

 

[Halo is Back]

I would wife her up.

You and me both she is cute af

 

[Halo is Back]

I only just discovered her recently, and she makes me laugh. Undeniably she is pretty, but you know what I find makes her more attractive? How smart she is and how much sense she makes. I see so much bull shit in this industry, and so many self entitled women, that someone like her is so refreshing who gets it. If she ever marries someday, that’s gonna be a very lucky man.

You should check out more of her vids! I love her because she actually cares about men’s issues

 

[Darkroronoa]

I don't understand the up down axis.

Left and right came out of the National Assembly of 1789 that led to the French Revolution.
The Republicans who valued freedom and social progress sat on the left and the Royalist who valued order and religious tradition sat on the right.

You can't just try to fit communism, liberalism, anarchism, and everything else on 2 axis like that.
Essentially, the dichotomy changes in every legislature, but the right always represent the interest of the upper class and the left represent the interests of the lower classes. Both sides tries to portray themselves as also representing the middle class which in a developed country constitutes the majority of the population. The left recognizes human rights. The right recognizes property rights. The right wants less taxation. The left wants less poverty. Religion is used by the right to enforce voluntary submission of the masses.

Politics only applies to democracies. Authoritarian regimes don't care about human rights or property rights.
You have either the tyrant or the benevolent ruler. This includes kingdoms and communist states.

That and people studying political sciences have too much time on their hands.

I guess the axis is there to try and fit those politics (communism, liberalism, anarchism etc). It doesn't do a great job but its a bit more precise than having only the left and right which is just very vague. I am not very educated on the matter and its history, but its clear to me that people should not judge only by where someone belongs on a scale and of course don't judge someone because of where doesn't belong on that scale.
Its just a way to categorise people and imo its sometimes also a way to divide those people and not a good reason. Politicians love it because they can approach their voters easier but hell if they ever are what they say they are.

 

[Cybrwzrd]

I don't understand the up down axis.

Left and right came out of the National Assembly of 1789 that led to the French Revolution.
The Republicans who valued freedom and social progress sat on the left and the Royalist who valued order and religious tradition sat on the right.

You can't just try to fit communism, liberalism, anarchism, and everything else on 2 axis like that.
Essentially, the dichotomy changes in every legislature, but the right always represent the interest of the upper class and the left represent the interests of the lower classes. Both sides tries to portray themselves as also representing the middle class which in a developed country constitutes the majority of the population. The left recognizes human rights. The right recognizes property rights. The right wants less taxation. The left wants less poverty. Religion is used by the right to enforce voluntary submission of the masses.

Politics only applies to democracies. Authoritarian regimes don't care about human rights or property rights.
You have either the tyrant or the benevolent ruler. This includes kingdoms and communist states.

That and people studying political sciences have too much time on their hands.

Well, generally speaking, to be a conservative is to want to preserve the status quo. A regressive wants to take things back, and a progressive wants to make things better.

So in current era, a proper conservative wants to protect gay marriage, protect free speech, and minority rights -and well not change from what we have currently. A regressive wants to take away rights, be them gun rights, speech rights or minority rights. A progressive wants to make things better. Be it universal health care or UBI.

 

[CrustyBritches]

They locked their thread so people can't talk about it.

Imagine being on a "discussion" forum where you can't admit to being a moderate for fear of the "for us, or against us" crowd. Even worse, a place where there can't be a discussion at all because despite the harsh authoritarianism, they can't keep their radicalism in check. Being a big part of the mob that caused this guy to lose his life. Then lock thread, scrub posts, act casual and burn some time on the secret pedo-era discord until the time is ripe to go after the other guys on the hit list.

 

[DeepEnigma]

You and me both she is cute af

I only just discovered her recently, and she makes me laugh. Undeniably she is pretty, but you know what I find makes her more attractive? How smart she is and how much sense she makes. I see so much bull shit in this industry, and so many self entitled women, that someone like her is so refreshing who gets it. If she ever marries someday, that’s gonna be a very lucky man.

It’s definitely her personality, for sure!

I’m telling you, those Eastern European women,

 

[StreetsofBeige]

They locked their thread so people can't talk about it.

Imagine being on a "discussion" forum where you can't admit to being a moderate for fear of the "for us, or against us" crowd. Even worse, a place where there can't be a discussion at all because despite the harsh authoritarianism, they can't keep their radicalism in check. Being a big part of the mob that caused this guy to lose his life. Then lock thread, scrub posts, act casual and burn some time on the secret pedo-era discord until the time is ripe to go after the other guys on the hit list.

That's the way Reeeeeeeee is.

If the thread is left leaning, it's flood gates open.

If the thread skews right, or has a bunch of posters skewering the left who is showing posts in bad taste, lock the thread before anyone else notices. And when the thread gets buried to page 3 or more, nobody will notice anymore.

A forum full of manchildren.

 

[Halo is Back]

We a global phenomenon now

All hail the power of NeoGAF

 

[MrTroubleMaker]

Bu.. bu.. lady on twitter said I'm alt-right, I'm so confused now.

me too

 

[DeepEnigma]

We a global phenomenon now

Time to dust off this old meme again.

GAF > Internet > GAF

 

[zeroFiveNine]

We a global phenomenon now

We did it guys, can I get a Sieg Heil?! *

*obviously a joke

 

[Hendrick's]

Bu.. bu.. lady on twitter said I'm alt-right, I'm so confused now.

To the alt-left, anyone who's not alt-left is alt-right. There is no longer a scale.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

To the alt-left, anyone who's not alt-left is alt-right. There is no longer a scale.

I bet to alt-lefters, even Joe Biden is alt-right.

 

[AmaiMask]

Zoe Quinn and women like her actively utilize cancel culture to go after and destroy their enemies. Zoe may not have directly called for the mob to go after Alec, but SJWs could not wait to rip the man to pieces and Zoe was fully aware of this. Alec's blood is entirely on Zoe's hands along with every self-righteous piece of shit on ResetEra that was condemning Alec. Showing support for an alleged victim of sexual abuse isn't the same as mercilessly tearing a man with mental issues apart until he finally snaps and ends his own life. SJWs are just as hateful as the Alt-Right they are always going on and on about if they can find some kind of justification for their outrage.

I hope Zoe never finds peace for this and it haunts her, and deals a crushing blow to the entire #MeToo movement. Alec's death will not be in vain, but will serve as a catalyst to spark a cultural counter attack to SJWs and the cancerous culture they've cultivated.

 

[nush]

This bitch just removed how much money she gets from Patreon or how many patreon she has. Guess she doesnt want the world to know its shrinking.

The opposite in fact. How much she is profiting off this drama. It's already documented how little it was making.

 

[Xenon]

Head or gut?

 

[Elcid]

Every. damn. time.

Every. Single. Fucking. Time.

Quinn's a monster. Seriously don't understand how people kill themselves over this shit. I don't know, call me old fashioned, but I'd at least take my accuser with me.

Edit:
Feminism's aim was to destroy the family/destroy society, and to trick women into the workforce so that they could tax us harder. Spoiler alert, it mostly worked.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Seriously don't understand how people kill themselves over this shit.

Some people are super fragile.

Given the data out there, it seems like there's smoke, so Alec may have done something. Even his sister said something a day later about Alec not being proud doing stupid shit in his life.

Bullying is one of those things where someone takes it to heart, or doesn't give a shit no matter what hand is dealt to you.

My parents immigrated to Canada:

- Dirt broke
- Didn't know English
- They were around 19-20 years old. Had no skills, and my mom hadn't even finished high school
- Many family members were killed when they were teeagers

Instead of giving up on life, they focused, got a family up and running, and now just about the entire family tree has done well. Things can change over 50+ years of effort..... even though back in like 1958 they would have been seen as immigrant losers.

They didn't have enough money to buy their first car (a shit box from what I heard as I wasn't born yet) until they were something like 36 years old.

 

[diesoon]

The opposite in fact. How much she is profiting off this drama. It's already documented how little it was making.

I don't think she removed it because she doesn't want the world to know how much she is being sponsored. That would require conscience and shame. I really think she doesnt want anybody to know that it will sharply keep going down from now. And it wasnt so little, for almost nothing she does, it was 1.3k, and hundreds of sponsors.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

This bitch just removed how much money she gets from Patreon or how many patreon she has. Guess she doesnt want the world to know its shrinking.

I guess that'll make it very easy for her to claim she's received overwhelming support for her ordeal when she inevitable acts out a grand comeback to twitter.

 

[diesoon]

Some people are super fragile.

Given the data out there, it seems like there's smoke, so Alec may have done something. Even his sister said something a day later about Alec not being proud doing stupid shit in his life.

Bullying is one of those things where someone takes it to heart, or doesn't give a shit no matter what hand is dealt to you.

My parents immigrated to Canada:

- Dirt broke
- Didn't know English
- They were around 19-20 years old. Had no skills, and my mom hadn't even finished high school
- Many family members were killed when they were teeagers

Instead of giving up on life, they focused, got a family up and running, and now just about the entire family tree has done well. Things can change over 50+ years of effort..... even though back in like 1958 they would have been seen as immigrant losers.

They didn't have enough money to buy their first car (a shit box from what I heard as I wasn't born yet) until they were something like 36 years old.

I'm so proud of your family. You got good genes. And thanks for telling us your family's story. I don't know how its connected to this shit, but thanks.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

How did she know the guy was even there anyway? With her it must be like throwing a sausage down a hallway.