Opus Angelorum
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First impressions of The Last of Us: Remastered (Game Informer)
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I'll admit I'm wrong.
TheLostBigBoss
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It can't be for nothing.
I think that's a slightly mistaken interpretation of this slide:
What is the benefit from "no texture streaming" ?
The Omega Man
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There is not such a thing a a game designed for 30fps, a game that runs a 30fps was a game that devs couldn't get to run at 60fps, don't believe devs that say 30fps is a design option. That's just bullshit.
I don't prefer 30fps over 60fps if all else is equal, but all else never is equal, and that's why I usually prefer 30fps with most genre's of games, due to the improved graphics, game world ambition, higher number of NPC's, draw distance or whatever else it might allow over with 60fps.
Obviously because this is a port, things are slightly different. But yea, I'd absolutely prefer Uncharted 4 to be a locked 30fps, with even better graphics, larger environments, more stuff going on etc.
Maidenpool?
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This is the very definition of nothing
Steve McQueen
Member
Eurogamer has some info on this as well:
The Last of Us Remastered lets players lock the game's visuals to 30 frames per second.
In an event attended by our friends at Eurogamer Spain, Naughty Dog's Arne Meyer delivered a presentation in which he confirmed the graphics toggle.
By default the game runs at 1080p60 in single-player and multiplayer, but the addition of the 30fps lock may indicate occasional drops below 60. If you are locked at 60 you get no judder. If you aren't, you do get judder (or tearing), and so locking to 30 produces a more consistent experience (for more on this subject, check out Digital Foundry's article "Do higher frame-rates always mean better gameplay?").
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The Last of Us Remastered lets players lock the game's visuals to 30 frames per second.
In an event attended by our friends at Eurogamer Spain, Naughty Dog's Arne Meyer delivered a presentation in which he confirmed the graphics toggle.
By default the game runs at 1080p60 in single-player and multiplayer, but the addition of the 30fps lock may indicate occasional drops below 60. If you are locked at 60 you get no judder. If you aren't, you do get judder (or tearing), and so locking to 30 produces a more consistent experience (for more on this subject, check out Digital Foundry's article "Do higher frame-rates always mean better gameplay?").
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Birgitte2004
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If I was a developer and was aware of places like GAF, I'd add a 30 fps lock even if I didn't think I needed it. Because of the off chance that at one location in the game I might accidentally drop a frame which would be referred to as "unacceptable" and a "slide show".
No visible pop-in with higher quality textures. The PS4 GDDR5 ram is vast enough to allow all the high-end textures to be in memory at once (doesn't have to be swapped in and out).
Wrong. Dark Souls 2 was "created" to run at 30fps, and they released a 60fps version on PC that ran like a dream - but all the animations are for the 30fps version of the game, which is where all those gifs of people getting hit by monsters when they were way the hell out of the way came from.
Also, weapon durability was tied to framerate as well, meaning on PC weapons degraded TWICE AS FAST from use.
Thats not info they are assuming like alot of people are here.
Really hope that they have increased lighting resolution and have enabled flashlight GI for every scene.
No problems of some texturing being blurry for a while and then turning to their final quality.
I love he fact this game gets so many people riled up. How about you guys just be excited you get to play one of the best games of all time again (or for the first time) and not worry about a few FPS. Besides, ND has said it's 1080 / 60. Some of you are reading too much into this IMO.
SictorVullivan
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I believe the problem is when the textures on some objects take a long time to load in properly, before you'd have an ugly blurry texture before the proper texture loads in (the uncharted games and tlou ps3) had this.
So looks like the textures will all load in soon as they are needed now.
It's basically inline with what the majority of people here are expecting.
I don't think anyone will care to even remember.
Not necessarily. its an easy number that jives with most native refresh rates. 60hz and 30 FPS work well together. If this was not a factor we would see locked 24 / 35 / 41 etc frame rates. This is why its mostly 30/60 or leave it unlocked and have a stuttering mess.
Ok, ok. GAF.
Think about this for a second. There has been such a big fuss over 60FPS versus 30FPS here. We know ND listens to the community and tends to offer features based off response(UC3 alternative aiming).
Scoff all you want, but I'm certain the 30FPS lock is an aesthetic for those that dont like the look of 60FPS. Yes, it might be hard for some of you to believe, but 60FPS isn't loved by everyone on this forum.
I think it must run well at 60FPS, we know it does from those who have played it at ND. The 30FPS lock is simply an option, not a handicap.
I for one love the notion that they are giving an option. Bravo, ND. Bravo.
Think about this for a second. There has been such a big fuss over 60FPS versus 30FPS here. We know ND listens to the community and tends to offer features based off response(UC3 alternative aiming).
Scoff all you want, but I'm certain the 30FPS lock is an aesthetic for those that dont like the look of 60FPS. Yes, it might be hard for some of you to believe, but 60FPS isn't loved by everyone on this forum.
I think it must run well at 60FPS, we know it does from those who have played it at ND. The 30FPS lock is simply an option, not a handicap.
I for one love the notion that they are giving an option. Bravo, ND. Bravo.
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Maidenpool?
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I know a lot of devs read this (most reluctantly) but as a joke they should rename "locked-30" to "Neogaf mode" from here on out... I wouldn't be surprised if in a lot of dev offices this is what locked-30 is referred to as already.
Shogun_of_Truth
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According to the linked article, it only has three of the DLC releases. Everything else most be purchased.
filmic mode
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That wasn't a feature though, that was fixing the aiming, whether they admit it or not.
This thread is pretty sad. It reminds me of the speculation on the Driveclub dev and the ND forced out thing. It's never a good idea to use speculation as confirmation.
There's many people on this very forum and even some Naughty Dog developers that prefers 30 FPS for whatever reason. Adding a option doesn't hurt anyone. This can also be used to immediately showcase the differences between 30/60 FPS on the big screen.
Let's wait until we see some impressions about the performance before jumping to conclusions.
PS. That Eurogamer article is doing what this thread is doing. Speculating. The words "may indicate" is not confirmation.
There's many people on this very forum and even some Naughty Dog developers that prefers 30 FPS for whatever reason. Adding a option doesn't hurt anyone. This can also be used to immediately showcase the differences between 30/60 FPS on the big screen.
Let's wait until we see some impressions about the performance before jumping to conclusions.
PS. That Eurogamer article is doing what this thread is doing. Speculating. The words "may indicate" is not confirmation.
Maidenpool?
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It has to be Neogaf mode, in reference to the only place on earth that cares about dips from 60 fps.
SniperHunter
Banned
There hasnt been any tearing in a naughty dog game since uncharted1
well the game is not ..auto-porting itself now, is it?
some (good) team is taking care of that. the same team that announced the UPGRADE to 60hz.
same as masterchief collection, where none of the four halo games ever played at 60hz.
yet, they announced that all of them will do now. and thats why you see a lot of halo players be very excited.
playing your game at a better (& smooth of course) framerate is only good news.
also another person replied to you before I did, that for a good example of how wrong you are, you go look at dark souls for one example.
now this "filmic game experience is better for me" bullshit, I dunno where it started, I already wrote that my guess is it started as a defence force for something, but i think that inside a gaming forum like this one, such silly notions should not be accepted as "right".
accept them as "bullshit" that they really are, and we are gold.
I feel this gen has been too liberal with 1080/60. It should only be said if it's rock solid. Like a Nintendo game. You are right tho. My copy Is paid off completely. I can not wait.
There is no "info" at all.
They are "guessing" just like a lot of people here.
You're going to last long here. Also, it's releasing at $50 and the first post says that textures, lighting, and draw distance have all been improved in addition to the resolution bump and higher frame rate.
Now maybe you can decrease the patronization rate in your posts. You know, considering you obviously didn't pay any attention to the OP before posting, or notice the thread is full of speculation, not fanboy gushing.
That is why I said video settings bumb and not resolution.. i guess i can't speak my mind about anything bad that sony does around here without getting sting by the hive. I said 60$ becase canadian taxes are a thing and a 50$ game you pay 60 out of your pokets, sorry its kind of a habit to include them. It's great to get excited about something you like but frankly it's still the same game you played months ago...
Steve McQueen
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Guess locked 30 is okay, especially considering the game looks gorgeous. Although it kinda worries me that 1080/60 certainly won't be the standard that I expected this gen.
BrokenEchelon
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I don't see any other reason to include the option.
More than ten times the usable RAM probably eliminated the need to stream off HDD or disk. I could be wrong, but that's what I assumed that to mean.
Edit: Beaten by a mile
And I don't see any reason for you to assume the worst, especially since multiple devs from ND have mentioned steady 60, with Corinne Yu tweeting about going past 60 to get a lock.
The Last of Us: Remastered [OT] Cyber really is patient zero
Neuromancer
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Hey I'm trying to sow some FUD here. It can't be for nothing.
TheLostBigBoss
Banned
Almost no game is ever a constant frame rate. CoD, whose staple point is 60FPS probably averages around mid 50's. Tomb Raider averaged mid 50's for it's remaster.
Tell me people who played PS4 Tomb Raider, did you notice the constant "dips" in the frame-rate? I'm honestly curious.
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Steve McQueen
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I think it's fair to think that it'll turn out like Second Son and Killzone. Why would you otherwise include the 30 fps option?
Opus Angelorum
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If it stutters as bad as those two games, I hope it's locked by default. I doubt it's as bad as those two.