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September 2015 NPD (U.S. Hardware) Predictions - Closes October 13th

I think the XBO will still win October (ableit, not running away with it easily). However, the PS4 price cut will have a more long term effect than Halo 5.
 

Ryng_tolu

Banned
like other guys said, i still think XB1 will win, but now will be close.

LOL, I guess you got your wish..

MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I would go for MGS.

But it's not the only question.
How will mario maker chart might also be of interest.
Top 3? Top 5?

And another question for debate in this slow-going circle:
What do you think will be the best-selling bundle in 2015 after all is said and done?
Fallout? Halo5? Star wars? COD? Uncharted collection? Lego movie? Kinect?
Just make a guess.

Mario Maker should sell >400k with digital and stay at #6.
 
I'm rolling with PS4 for October. We've been here before. March 2014 with Titanfall and June with the Kinectless SKU. To a lesser degree, August of this year as well.

I've learned not to underestimate PS4.
 
September - Sony
October - MS
November - Sony
December - Sony

And that should just about do it for 2015. See you all in January for NPD 2016: Even More Interesting!
 
Almost forgot!

[3DS] 115K
[WIU] 55K
[XB1] 270K
[PS4] 360K



September - Sony
October - MS
November - Sony
December - Sony

And that should just about do it for 2015. See you all in January for NPD 2016: Even More Interesting!

We still don't know if MS will announce another price cut for the XB1, so I would say November and December aren't decided just yet. Phil Spencer anticipated a price-cut for the PS4, and the prevalence of 1TB $400 bundles MS is planning for the holidays lends evidence to a possible $50 cut across the board.
 
Also where is Cosmic when you need him :p We need to decide what will happen to his avatar when he loses the 30m bet lol

Hmmm?

What bet?

Why you lie?

Nah man, that was my... my little cousin. He stole my GAF account and then bought a lot of MTX on PSN.
 

ZhugeEX

Banned
Hmmm?

What bet?

Why you lie?

Nah man, that was my... my little cousin. He stole my GAF account and then bought a lot of MTX on PSN.

Oh.... OH...... so that's how it's gonna be huh.

Must say I'm disappointed Cosmic.... I thought you'd be a man of your word.... I guess I was wrong :(

;)
 

Ryng_tolu

Banned
September - Sony
October - MS
November - Sony
December - Sony

And that should just about do it for 2015. See you all in January for NPD 2016: Even More Interesting!

After October, i think PS4 will be first all months since March.
April can be a XB1 victory thanks Quantum Break, but is too soon for know.
 

ZhugeEX

Banned
Here is what DFC said about the PS4 price drop-

We have been expecting the 500GB PlayStation 4 to get a price cut to $349 since confirmation of a 1TB model last June. The pricing dynamics in Japan are much different than they are in North America. Here, the PS4 has been a consistent leader in sales and SCEA has not faced market pressure to reduce the MSRP despite the $50 advantaged ceded to the Xbox One the last four months. But the fall is a different matter. With the delay of Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End to next spring, Sony does not possess an exclusive with the weight to compete with Halo 5: Guardians. In fact, all of Sony’s big hitters from this year’s E3 – The Last Guardian, Horizon Zero Dawn and Ratchet & Clank –are 2016 releases. For the rest of this year, Sony is relying on exclusive content for multi-platform titles, which isn’t as big a consumer inducement to buy. Faced with Microsoft Corp.’s penchant for releasing a slew of bundles tied to back door discounts during the holidays, SCEA had little choice but to realign PS4 pricing. It is one thing to pitch the PlayStation 4 around great games coming next year, but Halo 5 is arriving late this month and we fully expect Xbox One sales to get a significant boost through the end of December.
 

driver116

Member
Amazon bestsellers points to PS4 winning Sept and tracking PS4 winning October. Amazon are pretty inaccurate though right?
 
Amazon bestsellers points to PS4 winning Sept and tracking PS4 winning October. Amazon are pretty inaccurate though right?

Winning September ain't strange, Forza isn't that big in US.

October, it's too early to tell this early since Halo releases end of the month.
 

ZhugeEX

Banned
Amazon bestsellers points to PS4 winning Sept and tracking PS4 winning October. Amazon are pretty inaccurate though right?

Amazon still has less than 10% overall market share I believe so they're not going to be representative of how products are selling across the country.

That being said, if you're looking at monthly rankings and there are large gaps between Hardware SKU's then you can usually assume that the lower ranking one has sold more but it's important to factor in any pricing differences/promotional deals that Amazon or other retailers may have been running.

So yeh, it's not a whole lot accurate, especially for software (outside of top sellers) but it seems to be somewhat reliable when looking at hardware rankings as to which console will sell the most. We can't use Amazon to work out a gap or actual numbers though. Just a rough idea of rankings.

Also don't ever look at hourly charts and post it here.
 

Elandyll

Banned
Amazon bestsellers points to PS4 winning Sept and tracking PS4 winning October. Amazon are pretty inaccurate though right?
Hardware ranking wise they are 22 out of 23 months correct on the monthly ranking.

The one they missed was actually spot on if you looked closely at what was happening.

What you can't infer is actual numbers or how close/ far the hardware end up.

Can't use the Amazon monthly for software, too many variables.
 
Because it's his personal prediction? He may be wrong, he may be right. All part of the prediction thread fun.
True, but when I see posts that go against all facts and pretty much everyone else it would be nice to hear their reasoning. If not it looks like nothing more then wishful thinking. His prediction is pretty unlikely.
 

Blanquito

Member
However, keep in mind that the halo bundle on amazon has been in preorder for a couple of months and that those preorders won't show up in October due to the way Amazon tracks sales... So it may not be as accurate in October as it is other months
 

Elandyll

Banned
I know I'm going to drive Zhuge (and Rex) crazy, but only mentioning it for current hourly trend:

The price drop impact has began on the Amazon (Hourly) ranking.

Destiny bundle dropping like a stone, and the more expensive bundles (LE BF and COD) got a nice boost, while the $349 UC Collection got a big one as well (The UC bundle just jumped from rank 114 to 63 in the last update).

The Halo 5 bundle was slowly creeping up, but seems to now be hovering around #35.

OBVIOUSLY this means nothing for the larger picture of the monthly, it's just the "right now" picture. :)

Now adressing the monthly pre orders of the Halo 5 bundle, these will play a big role, but probably mostly the August ones (when the bundle was revealed).
They charted relatively high in August on Amazon (#24, highest XB1 SKU on Amazon), but failed to chart at all in September.

We'll see :)
Still saying there will be a nice bump in October, but with the price drop I think the PS4 will win it.
And for Nov/ Dec, it will all edge on an XB1 price drop imo (for a longer period than just BF).
 

Javin98

Banned
Amazon bestsellers points to PS4 winning Sept and tracking PS4 winning October. Amazon are pretty inaccurate though right?
Actually, Amazon has been right for every single month since both consoles launched except for one, April 2015. Even then, the monthly charts for April showed two XB1 SKU's being very close to a PS4 SKU, basically hinting at a win for the XB1. Too bad none of us got it.

As for October, it's true that the PS4 has been ahead thus far, but the XB1 Halo bundle is picking up steam on the charts. I know I sounded confident in the PS4 price drop thread that the PS4 might win, but right now, I'm not sure and I don't wanna predict just yet. I'll wait for more info.
 

Javin98

Banned
LMAO at x1 beating ps4 by 30K in sept, why?

QB a system seller? No way. Will sell similar to alan wake if that.,
Dude, I don't mean to be harsh, but I have to speak my mind. It's quite annoying that you are questioning everyone who predicts the XB1 being ahead or tied to the PS4 for this month. It's just their predictions. Wouldn't change a damn thing at the end. Would you rather have this thread (and other NPD threads) be more inactive instead? Let me kindly remind you that you are still a junior. This is quite a dangerous attitude for you to have right now. Don't take offense to this post, I'm just advising you.
 

Jigorath

Banned
Dude, I don't mean to be harsh, but I have to speak my mind. It's quite annoying that you are questioning everyone who predicts the XB1 being ahead or tied to the PS4 for this month. It's just their predictions. Wouldn't change a damn thing at the end. Would you rather have this thread (and other NPD threads) be more inactive instead? Let me kindly remind you that you are still a junior. This is quite a dangerous attitude for you to have right now. Don't take offense to this post, I'm just advising you.

lol

He's an alt.
 

Loris146

Member
I know I'm going to drive Zhuge (and Rex) crazy, but only mentioning it for current hourly trend:

The price drop impact has began on the Amazon (Hourly) ranking.

Destiny bundle dropping like a stone, and the more expensive bundles (LE BF and COD) got a nice boost, while the $349 UC Collection got a big one as well (The UC bundle just jumped from rank 114 to 63 in the last update).

The Halo 5 bundle was slowly creeping up, but seems to now be hovering around #35.

OBVIOUSLY this means nothing for the larger picture of the monthly, it's just the "right now" picture. :)

Now adressing the monthly pre orders of the Halo 5 bundle, these will play a big role, but probably mostly the August ones (when the bundle was revealed).
They charted relatively high in August on Amazon (#24, highest XB1 SKU on Amazon), but failed to chart at all in September.

We'll see :)
Still saying there will be a nice bump in October, but with the price drop I think the PS4 will win it.
And for Nov/ Dec, it will all edge on an XB1 price drop imo (for a longer period than just BF).

Destiny bundle is sold out and sold by third party anyway.
 
Now that you mention it, it might seem like he is. He even has a sloth in his avatar. Either way, I just hope we can have more reasonable posters in sales threads so we can have rational discussions.

I hope we have more posters at all. Sales threads are slow.
Pre season should be over by now here, too.
 

ZhugeEX

Banned
I know I'm going to drive Zhuge (and Rex) crazy, but only mentioning it for current hourly trend.

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Either way, I just hope we can have more reasonable posters in sales threads so we can have rational discussions.

He's been banned now which is good.

But I agree, would be great to have more people posting here who are rational and not just blind fanboys.
 
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