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[mckmas8808]

Thanks. Based on the hardware estimations we have from Welfare, it's not all "doom and gloom" when looking at the hardware figures from a launch-aligned perspective. Yes, they're a tad lower, but still good figures nonetheless when taking into account the higher average prices for PS5 and Xbox Series compared to PS4 and Xbox One.

That number from Welfare is a little off. The PS5 is at 300k and the XBS is at 130k when you factor in the "price" of the consoles that were sold. So the PS5 equaled the PS4 and that's "WITHOUT" a price drop or the Pro model out.

That's only if you ignore MAUs are the new model for the industry.

There was a complete fall off of PS3 game sales with PS4. GaaS didn't really exist, MTX was in infancy. The model has changed. It's not just bean counting. The TAM hasn't grown at all in the console space in decades and likely won't grow except for emerging markets like China, India, Brazil, and to a degree South Korea.

That's what China Hero Project, India Hero Project, and MENA (Middle East North Africa) Hero Project is for. I'm really hoping it works out for all parties involved. I thought that's what these were for? So find new growth in new areas.

China Hero Project | PlayStation

The China Hero Project is a PlayStation mentoring and support initiative for China-based game developers, giving them the opportunity to develop amazing and imaginative games that can reach a worldwide audience.

www.playstation.com

India Hero Project

www.playstation.com

MENA Hero Project | PlayStation

Middle East North Africa Hero Project is a new incubator program founded by Sony Interactive Entertainment focused on identifying and supporting emerging developer talent from the Middle East and North Africa.

www.playstation.com

 

[Thick Thighs Save Lives]

I'm lost which one is numbers are right?

There's no "right" numbers since both of them are estimations and should be taken as such, but if I had to pick one it would be Welfare's since he's tracking all the available console bundles and promos in the US over on his twitter so he has a more complete data set to work with.

 

[Daniel_Mallorca1985]

 

[Mibu no ookami]

That number from Welfare is a little off. The PS5 is at 300k and the XBS is at 130k when you factor in the "price" of the consoles that were sold. So the PS5 equaled the PS4 and that's "WITHOUT" a price drop or the Pro model out.



That's what China Hero Project, India Hero Project, and MENA (Middle East North Africa) Hero Project is for. I'm really hoping it works out for all parties involved. I thought that's what these were for? So find new growth in new areas.

China Hero Project | PlayStation

The China Hero Project is a PlayStation mentoring and support initiative for China-based game developers, giving them the opportunity to develop amazing and imaginative games that can reach a worldwide audience.

www.playstation.com

India Hero Project

www.playstation.com

MENA Hero Project | PlayStation

Middle East North Africa Hero Project is a new incubator program founded by Sony Interactive Entertainment focused on identifying and supporting emerging developer talent from the Middle East and North Africa.

www.playstation.com

There is absolutely hope in boosting local interest in places with local development, but they're also looking for new places to develop games that are cheaper than Santa Monica.

 

[mckmas8808]

The PS5 3x Xbox Series in sales for September is crazy! That means for the month of September the PS5 sold 78% and XBS sold 22% of all the big boy HD systems globally. That's incredible when you see the numbers that way.

There is absolutely hope in boosting local interest in places with local development, but they're also looking for new places to develop games that are cheaper than Santa Monica.

Never thought of it this way. .


Very smart of them actually.

 

[Synastry]

The European difference between ps5 and xsx is insane.

Ps5 is really hurting in japan wonder if the pro has anything to do with it? or if it was the price increase.

 

[mckmas8808]

The European difference between ps5 and xsx is insane.

Ps5 is really hurting in japan wonder if the pro has anything to do with it? or if it was the price increase.

It was the price increase.

 

[EN250]

Crazy how much Japan is carrying Nintendo's HW

 

[ap_puff]

There's no "right" numbers since both of them are estimations and should be taken as such, but if I had to pick one it would be Welfare's since he's tracking all the available console bundles and promos in the US over on his twitter so he has a more complete data set to work with.

Welfare also estimated xbox series to already near 30m earlier this year which was a gross overestimation, a couple months later it came out that xbox was at 28m shipped

 

[Woopah]

Crazy how much Japan is carrying Nintendo's HW

Weak yen is helping Nintendo a lot.

Also when was VGChartz unbanned from Neogaf? Was because I saw it being mentioned on the VGChartz forums.