The Fartist
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Yeah, that was awesome. I played the shit out of Twisted Metal Online on PS3 with my customized SLAYER soundtrack, it was...
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David Jaffe to Phil Spencer: 'You suck...... get some therapy.'
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James Sawyer Ford
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Acquisitions are not judged just on the size and extent of the purchase. Having many studios raises the operating cost.
It's simply a different objective. Higher cashflows with less developers (Bungie) may be preferable to higher operating costs with much lower cashflows (Bethesda). Both acquisitions can make sense, Microsoft needed more content and Bethesda has that. It's just the content they generally have isn't very popular with the exception of mainline Bethesda studios.
-MD-
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Yeah, that was awesome. I played the shit out of Twisted Metal Online on PS3 with my customized SLAYER soundtrack, it was...
The game was awesome when you weren't trying to connect to a match for 30 minutes, genuinely the best controlling game in the series.
Helicopter in car combat might be the single worst design choice ever though, hilariously bad.
Hayabusa83
Banned
Social Media was a mistake.
Chronicle
Member
He needs games
Cutty Flam
Banned
Phil is a strong character, he doesn't need therapy
He does need to do better by Xbox though
Halo is Xbox's Mario and it is nosediving off a cliff with each iteration
He does need to do better by Xbox though
Halo is Xbox's Mario and it is nosediving off a cliff with each iteration
March Climber
Member
Off topic but I have been able to buy a Series X for next day delivery for about a week here in the UK. There is stock that has been available for a week. They even throw in a free Tshirt so that I can advertise for them. Anyway point being I'm sure there will still be sales spikes with compelling software. It will not hurt MS either way unless people start unsubscribing to GP though.
That to me is part of the problem in the managment and delivery mentioned in the other thread where people had deluded high hopes that MS will be delivering 1 AAA game per month to GP. These delays don't matter because the delays mean very little to the studio and to MS. Halo delayed for a year and nothing on XSeries launch? who cares, not like the studio needed software sales to stay afloat, and not like MS needed it to grow GP. In fact it's in MS' and the studio's interest to play a game of "how long can I milk the monthly subs before I need to drop a big budget game". Less games and longer times == more profit. That's why I'm fairly confident Starfield will be replaced with some surprise release announcement come June if and only if they feel people will unsubscribe and they don't hit their targets. Maybe they are banking on marketing CoD on GP instead.
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Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
The kettle calling the pot black.
Cutty Flam
Banned
In Cold Blood
Banned
Phil Spencer has done a crazy good job with the Xbox revival. The brand is alive and well and selling more console than any other generation at the same time period, in an era of Chip shortages where they could have sold millions more if they could of made them.
They have gone from having like four internal studios to what it is now and Activision as well.
Since he has taken over MS has released two brilliant consoles in the Xbox One X and the Xbox Series X.
They have put together Gamepass which is value plus. They are leading with game streaming. They have been as open with the customers as they can be. Compare then to Sony in that regard.
Just last year Xbox Game Studios was voted publisher of the year, and Bethesda just behind them.
To then say he should step down because a couple of games were delayed to make sure they are quality releases is stupid.
Everyone makes fun of Bethesda because they release buggy games. Well now they have the backing of one of the most wealthy companies to take their time and release it in the best possible condition, and again people are thinking this is the wrong direction to take.
Now is Phil too soft on his studios? Firstly we don't know what is said behind closed doors, and if anyone thinks that Phil and MS were happy with 343 and the condition Halo was and is in you are kidding yourself.
The delay of infinate blew their whole marketing of the XSX out of the water. Halo all over the box but no Halo to play. Getting laughed at by the industry with memes like Craig. Yeah, he loved that I'm sure.
The delay of Halo would have cost MS tens of millions. Just the extra 12 months of wages for the 500 people working on it alone would be staggering.
However, for Xbox to have weathered that, still be selling out everywhere it drops, and being their most successful console launch ever tells you just how strong a brand Phil has created.
They have gone from having like four internal studios to what it is now and Activision as well.
Since he has taken over MS has released two brilliant consoles in the Xbox One X and the Xbox Series X.
They have put together Gamepass which is value plus. They are leading with game streaming. They have been as open with the customers as they can be. Compare then to Sony in that regard.
Just last year Xbox Game Studios was voted publisher of the year, and Bethesda just behind them.
To then say he should step down because a couple of games were delayed to make sure they are quality releases is stupid.
Everyone makes fun of Bethesda because they release buggy games. Well now they have the backing of one of the most wealthy companies to take their time and release it in the best possible condition, and again people are thinking this is the wrong direction to take.
Now is Phil too soft on his studios? Firstly we don't know what is said behind closed doors, and if anyone thinks that Phil and MS were happy with 343 and the condition Halo was and is in you are kidding yourself.
The delay of infinate blew their whole marketing of the XSX out of the water. Halo all over the box but no Halo to play. Getting laughed at by the industry with memes like Craig. Yeah, he loved that I'm sure.
The delay of Halo would have cost MS tens of millions. Just the extra 12 months of wages for the 500 people working on it alone would be staggering.
However, for Xbox to have weathered that, still be selling out everywhere it drops, and being their most successful console launch ever tells you just how strong a brand Phil has created.
March Climber
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I was posting the gif as a way to agree with you. Like Halo is Reverse Flash to Mario's Flash.
Cutty Flam
Banned
Hmm, I still don't get it. But yea Halo should be way better off than it currently is. At least it wasn't butchered though. I thought it would have been a MCC release all over again. Fans were worried for a long while
Idk, as a huge fan of the Halo games and the first two Gears of War games I feel like as soon as Phil started making his way up the ladder getting closer to CEO of Xbox that's the time when they dropped off the face of the earth. Completely lost me as a fan and both my favorite franchises (which are both powerhouse franchises to Xbox) plummeted in quality imo. These companies working for him are dancing around and fucking up yet he does not intervene and clean up anything. I find it odd on his part; he and his superiors let 343 Industries somewhat disgrace the legendary Halo's name imo. I thought Craig was hilarious, but the state they were thinking they could release Halo: Infinite in was a joke
Silent Viper
Banned
Only people who need help are people like Jaffe.
He look like a toxic homeless dude with mental issues. Jaffe already blocked by multiple executives including Sony executives. Yoshida and Niel have him blocked.
Nickolaidas
Member
This guy gets it.
davidjaffe
The Fucking MAN.
#1- Please stop lying.
#2- Learn to spell.
Ps. Don't respond. I know how this works. Now you get all, 'Oh, ha! I was just teasing to see if you'd show up! I love your games Jaffe- just having some fun! Yeah, Phil may need some therapy! HA!'
Ugh...
Instead, how about this: don't post horseshit that you KNOW isn't true.
In a better universe, INTENTIONALLY posting lies would get you kicked off the net for a few weeks.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
I think you missed the point entirely of why people are upset. The difference is that those other companies have other games lined up. MS has no first-party output left now for this year in the triple-A space besides maybe Forza. The Forza nobody cares about.
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PropellerEar
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Neither of you get it.
11.11.22 that's a pretty exact date.
Dude goes and buys 1 year of GPU, let's say he is a unicorn 180$ paying subscriber and is waiting for 11.11.22 and that redfall game(don't remember if it had a release date) to play day 1 on GP.
That's a commitment from MSFT to deliver on that date for which he is paying for monthly.
MSFT says "Haha delayed, buy one more year"
I'm not a GP subscriber but this would be a deal-breaker for me if I was.
Day 1 retail only games do not have this kind commitment. Game buyer doesn't have any money in on the game if it gets delayed, but subscription customer probably has.
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CuNi
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You know, there is not a singular date on which you can buy GP.. You could simply, and this might come as a shock to you, buy GP on the day the game releases! Extreme. Concept i know.
In all honesty, if someone buys GP a year in advance and tries to excuse it by saying "but the game i really wanted to play releases some when in this time frame!!" then he didn't buy GP for that singular game.
Shmunter
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I’m not a fan of bans, but baseless slander against members should be reprimanded.#1- Please stop lying.
#2- Learn to spell.
Ps. Don't respond. I know how this works. Now you get all, 'Oh, ha! I was just teasing to see if you'd show up! I love your games Jaffe- just having some fun! Yeah, Phil may need some therapy! HA!'
Ugh...
Instead, how about this: don't post horseshit that you KNOW isn't true.
In a better universe, INTENTIONALLY posting lies would get you kicked off the net for a few weeks.
You shouldn’t bother defending yourself against trolls, beneath you.
PropellerEar
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Then MSFT should refrain setting a specific release dates on anything if they cannot deliver.
The reason this cements old Laffy Jaffa as a clown is becaise saying someone needs therapy is a call that only people that have worked with the person or knows the real person can make that call. Phil is a mascot, the persona we see isn’t who he is, he’s “on” whenever we see him, Jaffa included. At the best he’s trying to say “the guy needs help” and genuinely cares, at worst he’s making light of mental health which isn’t his place, he isn’t a trained psychologist.
Congrats Laffy Jaffe(Laffy taffy)
Congrats Laffy Jaffe(Laffy taffy)
Lots of games delayed because of the pandemic, across major publishers like Sony, MS and WB. But apparently it’s only Microsoft that should never announce release dates, because reasons.
‘If they cannot deliver’, meanwhile they delivered quite a decent number of games last year. You think publishers and developers deliberately set out to get delays?
PropellerEar
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I haven't paid or subscribed to get Sony or WB games day 1. If they delay then they delay.
But when games and the subs are marketed with available on 11.11.22 on GP.
There is a big difference.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Owned like it's 2005.#1- Please stop lying.
#2- Learn to spell.
Ps. Don't respond. I know how this works. Now you get all, 'Oh, ha! I was just teasing to see if you'd show up! I love your games Jaffe- just having some fun! Yeah, Phil may need some therapy! HA!'
Ugh...
Instead, how about this: don't post horseshit that you KNOW isn't true.
In a better universe, INTENTIONALLY posting lies would get you kicked off the net for a few weeks.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Find yourself a woman who defends you like SilentViper defends Phil Spencer.
There’s no big difference, because people can preorder games too. Forgot that?
If someone was going to buy Gamepass for Starfield, why would you think it logical that they’d go off and pay for Gamepass over a year before release?
PropellerEar
Member
Never ever pre-order digital games. (Thank me later)There’s no big difference, because people can preorder games too. Forgot that?
If someone was going to buy Gamepass for Starfield, why would you think it logical that they’d go off and pay for Gamepass over a year before release?
Maybe to get it cheaper, but they could be on "Rent to own all access" BS too.
$25-35/month for 2 years, try to weasel out of that deal, when you don't get games that were promised.
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Never ever pre-order digital games. (Thank me later)
Maybe to get it cheaper, but they could be on "Rent to own all access" BS too.
$25-35/month for 2 years, try to weasel out of that deal, when you don't get games that were promised.
But anyone who got an Xbox on All Access when Starfield was announced at E3 last year would still get the game. Still under two years.
Try again?
PropellerEar
Member
Mercenary09
Member
The PS5 had Returnal, Ratchet, MLB, Destruction All Stars, Death Stranding Director's Cut, Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut, Deathloop, and more last year. What are you even talking about? Sony wasn't the one who went from November 2020 to July 2021 with no exclusive games for their next-gen console.
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Andodalf
Banned
Lol MLB isn't exclusive at all and Deathloop is legit made by Microsoft. Two of those games are just ports. That's a terrible lineup to hang your hat on.
MikeM
Member
Agreed on MLB.
Deathloop is PS5 console exclusive as of today. Tho we all know its coming to Xbox.
coffinbirth
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CuNi
Member
So you mean to tell me you never, in your whole life, arrived somewhere late because of unforeseen things happening or miscalculating the time something takes?
PropellerEar
Member
Do you think I'm a two trillion dollar company...
That just says "Yoinks! See you next year!" and send you a new bill...
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Killer8
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Sony had an anemic second half. Their big holiday games like Horizon, God of War Ragnarok and GT7 all got delayed into 2022. There was a 6 month gap from September 2021 (Deathloop, Kena) all the way through to February 2022 (Horizon). In other words all their biggest games slipped into the next year and they let the holiday season go completely uncontested. It's an identical situation to what is going to happening to MS later this year. I'm sorry you failed to comprehend the comparison.
Also just lmao if that lineup impresses you. You have what, three new games in that list? Some enhanced PS4 ports? Why even list trash like Destruction All Stars? And who cares about a sports game which even launched earlier for Xbox Game Pass? Returnal, Kena and Deathloop also had delays of several months within the year - which only goes to show even more how common delays are for everyone in the industry. In fact, if Deathloop had arrived on time, the second half of 2021 would've been an even bigger shitshow for Sony.
PropellerEar
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So no date.
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I own a series S, an also a one X, being MS fan since forever, I’ve found myself playing more and more with PS5, and now im buying non exclusives and playing them on PS5. I don’t know, even with all studio acquiring, lineup for Xbox seems weak AF. They’ve fucked up with Halo big, when it was THE chance for redeeming.
I wonder where is Killer Instinct? Split Second? Top Spin? these were great games for Xbox.
I wonder where is Killer Instinct? Split Second? Top Spin? these were great games for Xbox.
You’ll get your answers June 12th.
sol_bad
Member
Is Jaffe getting angry at Phil due to the delay of Starfield? Does he seriously think that Starfield would not be delayed if MS didn't own Bethesda? The game was always gong to be delayed. This delay has absolutely nothing to do with MS' leadership and everything to do with Bethesda only. I could understand if Jaffe was angry about Halo Infinite, delayed a year and still abysmal with it's content but not Starfield.
Deputy Moonman
Member
I feel like there was a time not so long ago that people criticized MS for not giving their studios enough time and freedom to complete games.
MacReady13
Member
I'll say it again people- they have Gamepass and for many, that is all they want! So many (even here) don't seem to care about new games but are content posting about older games showing up on Gamepass like it's a saviour. What happened to all these 1st party exclusives that were coming to Gamepass to make Sony look like shit?
At the end of the day, Microsofts glory days were the 360 days when Phil wasn't in charge. He's more interested in he/him pronouns and all that shit. Focus on making great new games! They just purchased all these studios and we still have next to nothing to show for it!
At the end of the day, Microsofts glory days were the 360 days when Phil wasn't in charge. He's more interested in he/him pronouns and all that shit. Focus on making great new games! They just purchased all these studios and we still have next to nothing to show for it!