Nintendo Switch 2 Game-Key Cards Information from Nintendo [Not regular games]

Gambit2483 said:
Litterally the only thing that sucks is the $80 pricing of MK. Otherwise the pricing of the console is in line with what it's capable of doing and the launch lineup is solid.

This solves the problem of 150GB file size games for a cart based handheld.
What's not looking so great?
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About everything about his console reveal unless you are a die hard Nintendo fanboy. The reveal was Mediocre, and Nintendo are being greedy bitches with these prices.
 
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Buggy Loop said:
But its not as far as the information go

Who's to say you don't sell the cartridge? You sell a key. You give a unique key to someone else, they own it, you don't anymore.

I predict next gen consoles will all go towards this direction by the way. At one point I was even wondering who will be the first to have a keychain system ala crypto to physically sell digital goods. Will not fall off my chair that next gen consoles start it.



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So Nintendo isn't going to manufacture expensive cards, but it's going to charge people extra anyway? At least it's not a one-time redeem code, now that's really scummy.
 
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xrnzaaas said:
So Nintendo isn't going to manufacture expensive carts, but it's going to charge people extra anyway? At least it's not a one-time redeem code, now that's really scummy.
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no, nothing is changing, this is literally just a new label for games that aren't fully on the cart.
just like how Cyberpunk Ultimate edition on PS5 is not fully on disc. or how CoD is basically just a key disc on all systems, with only a tiny amount of data on the actual disc.

funnily enough it all points towards the fact that Cyberpunk on Switch 2 will be complete on the Cart as they advertise them using a 64GB cart, and the file size of the ultimate edition on PS5 is 75GB. given that they will use lower quality textures and thereby save space on the cart it could possibly fully fit on the 64GB cart
 
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kevboard said:
no, nothing is changing, this is literally just a new label for games that aren't fully on the cart.
just like how Cyberpunk Ultimate edition on PS5 is not fully on disc. or how CoD is basically just a key disc on all systems, with only a tiny amount of data on the actual disc.

funnily enough it all points towards the fact that Cyberpunk on Switch 2 will be complete on the Cart as they advertise them using a 64GB cart, and the file size of the ultimate edition on PS5 is 75GB. given that they will use lower quality textures and thereby save space on the cart it could possibly fully fit on the 64GB cart
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With the size of games, state they often launch in, and the live service nature of them, these carts are a good idea. It's something that was being done previously with smallest Switch carts anyway. I do think a downside is that more publishers will use this as the defacto option, unless Nintendo's figured out a way to control costs of their larger carts.
 
kevboard said:
no, nothing is changing, this is literally just a new label for games that aren't fully on the cart.
just like how Cyberpunk Ultimate edition on PS5 is not fully on disc. or how CoD is basically just a key disc on all systems

funnily enough it all points towards the fact that Cyberpunk on Switch 2 will be complete on disc as they advertise them using a 64GB cart, and the file size of the ultimate edition on PS5 is 75GB. given that they will use lower quality textures and thereby save space on the cart it could possibly fully fit on the 64GB cart
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But isn't Cyberpunk's expansion included as a 1-time code in the PS version? I don't have it myself so I can't verify it, but I'm generally talking about two scenarios:
- You get a physical version, but you still have to download part of it / everything. Shitty, but acceptable, because you can still sell that copy or borrow it as a complete product.
- You get a physical verision and part of it / everything is a one-time redeem code. That's unacceptable and it's already happened to some games (especially on PC where there are no traditional physical releases since people don't use drives anymore).
 
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bender said:
With the size of games, state they often launch in, and the live service nature of them, these carts are a good idea. It's something that was being done previously with smallest Switch carts anyway. I do think a downside is that more publishers will use this as the defacto option, unless Nintendo's figured out a way to control costs of their larger carts.
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these are just a less shitty replacement of these Switch 1 boxes

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not sure if this will make any difference in the amount of games that will release like this.
at least CD Project Red is still not too cheap to use big carts for their games
 
xrnzaaas said:
But isn't Cyberpunk's expansion included as a 1-time code in the PS version? I don't have it myself so I can't verify it, but I'm generally talking about two scenarios:
- You get a physical version, but you still have to download part of it / everything. Shitty, but acceptable, because you can still sell that copy or borrow it as a complete product.
- You get a physical verision and part of it / everything is a one-time redeem code. That's unacceptable and it's already happened to some games (especially on PC where there are no traditional physical releases since people don't use drives anymore).
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yes the PS5 version has the DLC as a code.
so this is not a new concept.
in that case it was a tech issue with Sony's SKU system that prevented the full content on Disc. the Xbox SX version came on 2 discs with everything on disc.
given how it is advertised the same seems to be true for the Switch 2 version, which will ship on a 64GB cartridge

Call of Duty had I think only the CoD launcher app on disc, and nothing else. so this is just a way for Nintendo to clearly label releases like these.
and they will probably replace those Switch 1 games that only came with a download code, which there were a bunch of sadly.
 
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kevboard said:
these are just a less shitty replacement of these Switch 1 boxes

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not sure if this will make any difference in the amount of games that will release like this.
at least CD Project Red is still not too cheap to use big carts for their games
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Well, I think there's some justification about Publishers being cheap. Stolen from Reddit.
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It will certainly be an interesting trend to follow.
 
bender said:
Well, I think there's some justification about Publishers being cheap. Stolen from Reddit.
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It will certainly be an interesting trend to follow.
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NAND storage is getting cheaper. SSDs and SD cards have noticeably dropped in price over the years.

for SSDs the price per TB dropped from $70 to $26 in just 3 years from 2020 to 2023
 
kevboard said:
NAND storage is getting cheaper. SSDs and SD cards have noticeably dropped in price over the years.

for SSDs the price per TB dropped from $70 to $26 in just 3 years from 2020 to 2023
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Yes, it's pointed out in that post..
 
K' Dash said:
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It's games dude, go outside for 5 min.
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Wow. Thanks for the advice. If it wasn't for you, I might have stayed on the Gaf all night seething over Nintendo.

I'm off to the gym in 30 mins(ish) for a leg and shoulder session.

I'm be screaming "NINTENDO" in anger to help me through my squats.

Thanks again, legend!
 
IDKFA said:
Wow. Thanks for the advice. If it wasn't for you, I might have stayed on the Gaf all night seething over Nintendo.

I'm off to the gym in 30 mins(ish) for a leg and shoulder session.

I'm be screaming "NINTENDO" in anger to help me through my squats.

Thanks again, legend!
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I don't like to add anything to leg day, I usually go pretty hard on shoulders, doing both would kill me.

Have a good pump 💪
 
K' Dash said:
I don't like to add anything to leg day, I usually go pretty hard on shoulders, doing both would kill me.

Have a good pump 💪
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I used to do a pure "push" and do shoulders with chest and tri, but the work outs were taking too long, so I built shoulders into legs a few days ago. Means I can also do some supersets.

Thanks. I personally love leg day, so I'm looking forward to it. Just need to make sure I have a fap before I go.

Laters
 
Game-key cards are different from regular game cards, because they don't contain the full game data.
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I can't put into words how much I hate this concept.

Just release your game digital only in that case.

At least I'll know which games to avoid.
 
Buggy Loop said:
So it's not every games

So it's nothing basically

PS5 and Xbox does this too.

Metroid Prime 4 doesn't have it
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indeed. and it's a good way to know which games to not buy.

Street Fighter 6 for example cheaped out and uses one of these, and so it's easy to avoid
 
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We had Code in a Box bullshit

Now we get Code on a Cart bullshit

Check the box before you buy. Don't buy the camouflaged code. Don't encourage it by buying it.
 
Dear Nintendo,

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What a piece of SHIT idea, the worst of both world in one product:
  1. You don't have Internet: fucked
  2. Your key card is damaged: fucked (ok, you can buy another one but you still have to download the game inside your switch storage, and so, be online at least once unlike current cartridge)
  3. If card is dead how Nintendo will manage licence from this dead card since you need to be connected for the first launch and, so they say, then can be played offline after. How to prevent cheating/piracy ? I would assume key card is online checked everytime the game is started that it is the authorized console but they said, only one launch require Internet ? It's confusing and contradictory (my opinion is they will not care, you will have to buy a new key cartridge and the old is forever lost and there is also some kind of licence mechanism check every launch)
  4. You have Internet but not the key card: fucked
  5. You have the key card, downloaded the game previously but no Internet: fucked [to be confirmed] You can play offline once downloaded but need Internet for the first launch
  6. You have the key card, not downloaded the game and no Internet: fucked
  7. It will confused a LOT of casual people
Only advantage: you can resell this hybrid shit you bought by mistake to another poor soul to let him/her suffer for you.

What would have been a genius idea could have been to be able to buy "empty card" of various size 16/32/64/128/256/512... etc and make a reality to the fabulous idea to transfer any of your selected digital games into a cartridge and remove it from your digital library, and this, at your ease and in both direction (it's probably a technical challenge to do this because of potential piracy I guess).

But could have been a marvelous idea !

Could have been also like the famicom back in time (Japanese NES) where you could buy empty disk and download the game by satellite or whatever tech it was into your empty disk.

Meanwhile, dear Nintendo, take your key card and put it deep wherever your want, thank you.
 
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This is at least better than a code in a box, IF this method means you can resell the card to someone else. If it ties the download to your account it's shit (but if it did that, why would you even need the card).
 
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I don't hate it. It's the closest we ever get to be able to "sell" digital games, while also allowing for the publisher not spend so much in cartridge prices.
 
tr1p1ex said:
yep

This is a bigger change to the code in the box than some might realize.

You can share like a cart (assuming.) But unlike the codes in the box you also need the cart.

So depending on how you see it, there's glass half full and half empty to be had. Not that I care.
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The code is worse. Once it's used, that's it. You can't sell, trade or lend it.

It's basically just like a PS5 disc except where you have to have install the data from the PS5 disc you download it from a server on Switch. The dics/card still has value in that it can be sold/traded.
 
Gamer79 said:
About everything about his console reveal unless you are a die hard Nintendo fanboy. The reveal was Mediocre, and Nintendo are being greedy bitches with these prices.
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Ok name some things?
The only thing I can think of is MK being $80. What else in particular was so horrible?
 
ZoukGalaxy said:
Dear Nintendo,

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What a piece of SHIT idea, the worst of both world in one product:
  1. You don't have Internet: fucked
  2. Your key card is damaged: fucked (ok, you can buy another one but you still have to download the game inside your switch storage, and so, be online)
  3. You have Internet but not the key card: fucked
  4. You have the key card, downloaded the game previously but no Internet: fucked [to be confirmed]
  5. You have the key card, not downloaded the game and not Internet: fucked
  6. It will confused a LOT of casual people
Only advantage: you can resell this hybrid shit you bought by mistake to another poor soul to let him/her suffer for you.

What would have been a genius idea could have been to be able to buy "empty card" of various size 16/32/64/128/256/512... etc and make a reality to the fabulous idea to transfer any of your selected digital games into a cartridge and remove it from your digital library, and this, at your ease and in both direction (it's probably a technical challenge to do this because of potential piracy I guess).

But could have been a marvelous idea !

Could have been also like the famicom back in time (Japanese NES) where you could buy empty disk and download the game by satellite or whatever tech it was into your empty disk.

Meanwhile, dear Nintendo, take your key card and put it deep wherever your want, thank you.
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How is it any different than Sony & Microsoft are doing with some discs being just a digital ticket?

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K' Dash said:
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It's games dude, go outside for 5 min.
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I wish people who make comments like this would just stfu. This is a GAME DISCUSSION FORUM. That's what we're here to talk about. How do you know this guy isn't outside relaxing on a bench while posting this from his phone? Just geez, get over yourself and your superiority complex cuz you don't care about video games as much as someone else might.
 
Power Pro said:
I wish people who make comments like this would just stfu. This is a GAME DISCUSSION FORUM. That's what we're here to talk about. How do you know this guy isn't outside relaxing on a bench while posting this from his phone? Just geez, get over yourself and your superiority complex cuz you don't care about video games as much as someone else might.
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we actually had a nice exchange about how we like to do our gym routines.
 
The more we learn about this system the worst it gets. Bad news if Reports are true Switch owners. It looks like most if not all "physical" copies will just be keys to unlock a digital download and an internet connection is required to play most games. I thought it was only some games were going the Key route but now it looks to be most if not all physical releases on the Switch 2 is just a physical download key. God Damn, Nintendo really shitted on videogame fans here. Nintendo has a long history of being very anti-consumer and the success of the Switch has got them in full gear.
 
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No. False. There is zero reason to believe that "most" physical copies will be like that, and we already know that not all will be.
 
Where did you read that most copies will require Internet to play even after downloading?
 
Gambit2483 said:
The code is worse. Once it's used, that's it. You can't sell, trade or lend it.

It's basically just like a PS5 disc except where you have to have install the data from the PS5 disc you download it from a server on Switch. The dics/card still has value in that it can be sold/traded.
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And the code is better for all the reasons digital is better.

The point being the empty cart is both better and worse than the code in the box and which one you lean towards depends on one's viewpoint.

That being said, I think people that are buying a box are already voting to use a cart and people who like the positives of digital are just buying the game in the eShop.
 
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