Totalbiscuit Content Patch
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DJ Wheat!
Anyway, TB's alright. My main gripe would be that he has way too thin skin for an "internet personality", he's not that good with criticism. He seems personally offended by stuff he should be able to shrug off with no problem.
Oh well. Carry on.
Wiktor
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I like TB. Wonderful voice, he knows his stuff and often takes on niche games. Plus I really like that he rarely apears in his own videos. Too many YT video makers feel the need to shot their own low budget tv programms starring themselves. If I go into channel about videogames I want to watch videogames, not your mug.
Sub_Level
wants to fuck an Asian grill.
He's self critical on Youtube as well. Perhaps too much so, because it seems like every 2 months he introduces a new sub series and cancels another one because he studies the viewing statistics and whatnot.
The last self critical video was him asking subscribers why they didn't turn out in great numbers for his PAX videos when it was pretty obvious that (1) it was Spring Break, (2) Bioshock Infinite had just come out so many were playing that, and (3) people don't go to his channel generally for expo coverage. But now he's probably never going to do expo coverage again just because of this one mishap.
I know I knew about it from either GAF or TB, i can't remember at the moment, but i saw both in a very short span between each other, so i'm cool with TB taking some of the glory for it.Well, sort of. I started the "argument" with Tony Shoupinou (of Namco Bandai Europe) about why a PC port could be a good idea, and we came together to this conclusion that a petition could work.
But probably nothing useful would ever come out it if I didn't mail that conversation to RPS and TB and they didn't start the "tam tam" on the internet just few hours later.
Of course I could get cocky and try to claim that you guys should totally thank me for having that game on PC.
But I know better and in all honesty I realize that you should seriously thank RPS and TB for most of the "heavy work".
EDIT: just to put this in numbers, votes escalated up to the hundreds as RPS published the news about it, and then few hours later they went to thousands as TB published his video. Not even 24 hours later, there were already more than 20,000 signs on the petition and only THEN other gaming sites started publishing about it as well.
Sapphire Dreams
Member
It was off-putting to me of how he pronounces "issue" I looked it up and it was a dialect thing, quite curious.
Lord British
Member
I agree with this. I think WTF Is... is very useful. I can't really listen to his voice, his tone is very irritating to me (he has the same voice as Ashens, effectively, and a very familiar British nerd voice, which is fine of course and he can't help that, it's just a little like nails on a chalkboard for me), and he does basically seem to regurgitate forum posts. Also there was that one incident on Twitter where he was really unreasonably rude to some customer sales rep over, effectively, nothing. That really soured me on him.
But yeah, he's alright.
Immortal Technique
Member
I don't blame TB for not playing WoW anymore (neither do I), but back in the game's glory days, his WoW Radio shows were the best -- just amazingly entertaining.
Stallion Free
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Was that that time when he went all Chris Brown on that 2K service rep over the FOV in The Darkness 2?
Holy crap, time just flies by doesn't it.
swirlyglasses
Member
It worked though. Darkness 2 now has an FOV slider.
Sometimes you need to fight hard to get things done.
To be fair, the PR rep was saying that it was actually impossible. (Some bullshit about the tentacles)
Did he/she deserve TB's retribution? Not really, but they were making up some bullshit and his outrage got a legitimate issue fixed.
TB has an issue with sickness and close-in FOVs. I don't suffer from the same issue, but I understand that it makes some games unplayable to certain people.
Stallion Free
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It was pathetic and sickening.
Since we seem interested in digging up year old dirt.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34966117&postcount=166
Is there something I'm missing?
Pathetic and sickening? I didn't take you one for extreme overreactions.
Unnecessarily aggressive at worst. Hardly "sickening". And in the end, TotalBiscuit was right. The excuse they were giving him for the lack of an FoV slider was completely bullshit and was fixed rather quickly.
He could have been a bit more cordial about it, but he's certainly not some kind of Twitter monster bullying some poor, innocent 2K PR rep. Let's not get crazy here.
swirlyglasses
Member
The link was in the quote:
2K Elizabeth
Hey guys -
The FOV is fixed for a reason - mainly due to the demon arms, which are over your shoulders. This FOV made sense given how they worked.
http://forums.2kgames.com/showthread.php?117407-Anti-Aliasing-and-FOV&p=1503312#post1503312
Statement was proven to be bullshit rather quickly. She deserved to be called out for her error, although we can debate whether or not TotalBiscuit did so with tact and respect, which I think most would agree that he did not. But he certainly wasn't abusing her or anything.
It wasn't really her area to be wrong on. Community managers are gatekeepers between the devs and gamers. Any excuse she gave related to tech matters is on the devs not her.
Don't really feel like she deserved that level of abuse when she was being quite cordial. Dealing with the public sucks, dealing with someone with a chip on their shoulder whilst being aggressive is even worse.
Don't really feel like she deserved that level of abuse when she was being quite cordial. Dealing with the public sucks, dealing with someone with a chip on their shoulder whilst being aggressive is even worse.
Stallion Free
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I don't expect a PR person to know the answer to that kind of question and anyone who does has pretty fucking naive or out for blood.
The FOV slider does break a number of viewmodels actually.
She clearly states in the back and forth that she is reiterating information from the devs, and TB acknowledges.
Stallion Free
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It doesn't mean he should keep twittering her. He should twitter the devs. He wanted to prove how fucking real he was and he did on the wrong person and it's embarrassing as shit to read.
Errr, isn't the entire purpose of a community manager to be the liaison between the consumer and the producer?
He was certainly talking to the right person. It is to her credit how she handled the situation, though, she was very professional. I didn't mean to attribute the claim that a wider FoV would break the demon arms solely to her, of course she was getting the information from the developers, that's implied.
Stallion Free
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When it comes to something as technical as the FOV? I don't think so.
She seems to feel like she's the right person. Now we're just splitting hairs over details, though.
That is some pretty selective quoting. They said the HARDWARE was "baked, done" and immeditatly followed that up my saying thr UI and OS features were still in development.
Stallion Free
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Because you edited:
He responds with this:
@dahanese there are no questions, you've made 2K's position clear, it is unwilling to provide the options required for comfortable play.
Have you ever worked customer service before? Because that kind of shit is more annoying than anything else.
He came in with an agenda and wanted blood, he fucking says it right there.
He responds with this:
@dahanese there are no questions, you've made 2K's position clear, it is unwilling to provide the options required for comfortable play.
Have you ever worked customer service before? Because that kind of shit is more annoying than anything else.
He came in with an agenda and wanted blood, he fucking says it right there.
I've said multiple times that I do not feel he handled the situation properly, being that he is prone to this kind of behavior in many other circumstances, as well. It's a personality flaw that the entire internet, and certainly even TotalBiscuit himself, is aware of.
My only point is that it wasn't "sickening", just kind of a bit douchy.
Everyone lost here, except the gamers. We got an FoV slider. So that's cool.
Your right. Best way to describe him is being a douche.
Portugeezer
Member
Yeah that was a low point
I tried the darkness II demo and clearly remember the AWFUL fov, i am so glad they patch the fov slider in.
Unfortunately you have to make some noise to brake the pr/cm bullshit wall and get answers from developers.
I can only say thanks to TB for this, and also to Digital Extremes for listening.
The problem is that there are not enough people out there doing that on the media.
Unfortunately you have to make some noise to brake the pr/cm bullshit wall and get answers from developers.
I can only say thanks to TB for this, and also to Digital Extremes for listening.
The problem is that there are not enough people out there doing that on the media.
Absolutely.
For a college kid who had nothing better to do than play WoW back when it came out (much to the dismay of my grades) I remember listening to WoW Radio so much for a good 2-3 years. And TB's shows were certainly some of the best on the station.
I still like WoW a lot, but I remember understanding most of his complaints back from when he quit the game. And it allowed him to do more general gaming content on his YT channel.
Actually you are completely wrong, as your link shows:
"Our hardware is baked, it's complete, it's done," she said. "But the software will continue to evolve."
As for TB being a dick, I never got the impression that he's a dick, then again I haven't been listening to his stuff for very long. Even if he was a bit of a dick, he'd still be worth listening to because he can actually talk properly and make coherent arguments, which is more than you can say for most people who talk about games.
He talks what the general gamer consensus thinks and makes sure to stand up for those opinions. Having a large following also helps i.e. any niche game developer would kill to get their game on a Totalbiscuit WTF.
At least he doesn't take the urine in a jar that PR may give him and upend it over his face like many other publications tend to do.
At least he doesn't take the urine in a jar that PR may give him and upend it over his face like many other publications tend to do.
And again, new Content Patch:
00:34 Bethesda on day-one DLC complaints http://bit.ly/YeXm6n
05:27 Dark Souls 2 for PC revealed http://go.ign.com/16Uwnkj
08:52 Rayman Legends delay resulted in 30 more levels http://aol.it/10PwXzp
11:13 Project Eternity reveals ingame footage http://bit.ly/155yHc3
13:22 Digi Capital report on 2012 merges and acquisitions http://bit.ly/11Ytwrc
00:34 Bethesda on day-one DLC complaints http://bit.ly/YeXm6n
05:27 Dark Souls 2 for PC revealed http://go.ign.com/16Uwnkj
08:52 Rayman Legends delay resulted in 30 more levels http://aol.it/10PwXzp
11:13 Project Eternity reveals ingame footage http://bit.ly/155yHc3
13:22 Digi Capital report on 2012 merges and acquisitions http://bit.ly/11Ytwrc
Lord British
Member
Yeah, that's it. Reading it back he seems even worse. I can't be arsed with Twitter in the first place, since character limits tend to result in aggressive exaggeration at the best of times, but TB is being truly dreadful there. It's just the dumbest, most inconsequential fucking thing to give someone who's being entirely pleasant a hard time over. Almost everything he says is an attempt to be scathing.
i like tb, he bring alot of indie games to my attention that i wouldnt know about and i share his opinions on alot of things, he is the cynical brit and is suppose to come off as brash and cynical and argumentative
the fov thing could have been handled better but i share his pain on that, even bioshock infinite i had to jack the fov all the way up because i was getting motion sick from it, sonic generations just killed me for that as well and i have no idea why
he is one of the few youtube people i can watch because i have no interest in people who play through entire games and try to be funny, example: skyrim part 200, hey look my cat is sitting on my keyboard
the fov thing could have been handled better but i share his pain on that, even bioshock infinite i had to jack the fov all the way up because i was getting motion sick from it, sonic generations just killed me for that as well and i have no idea why
he is one of the few youtube people i can watch because i have no interest in people who play through entire games and try to be funny, example: skyrim part 200, hey look my cat is sitting on my keyboard
he is wrong about day 1 dlc in the new content patch (about people being paid anyway so they might aswell give the dlc away for free) everything is budgeted for maximum profit
from my experience
when a company does the budget for a game, the budget is just for the main game and includes employees salaries (because they can be moved to other projects and other budgets) so if you have people working for 18 months to finish a game and they are all budgeted anything after completion would go into the new budget (the dlc budget or a new games budget)
so like, games done, we wanna make some mp levels and need some artists and designers / programmers, how much money do we have to do that? okay we have to make that up by selling the maps they make
i hope this makes sense to other people
from my experience
when a company does the budget for a game, the budget is just for the main game and includes employees salaries (because they can be moved to other projects and other budgets) so if you have people working for 18 months to finish a game and they are all budgeted anything after completion would go into the new budget (the dlc budget or a new games budget)
so like, games done, we wanna make some mp levels and need some artists and designers / programmers, how much money do we have to do that? okay we have to make that up by selling the maps they make
i hope this makes sense to other people
Ciastek3214
Junior Member
So, basically they can make budgets smaller thanks to the DLCs. Is that right?
Portugeezer
Member
Guys, I remember when TB done a video of Dark Souls (probably a WTF is), he took it down pretty quick and I didn't catch the original video.
He only made a VLOG about it being a bad video, yada yada, not really explaining what was so bad about it. Does anyone know?
All I can assume is that he overlooked the capped resolution and framerate of the PC version, something he would normally make a big deal over. Is that correct?
He kind of mentions supporting shit/bad ports making Dark Souls 2 on PC possible in the latest content patch.
He only made a VLOG about it being a bad video, yada yada, not really explaining what was so bad about it. Does anyone know?
All I can assume is that he overlooked the capped resolution and framerate of the PC version, something he would normally make a big deal over. Is that correct?
He kind of mentions supporting shit/bad ports making Dark Souls 2 on PC possible in the latest content patch.
Ciastek3214
Junior Member
I'm aware of that. Just don't like the idea of DLC.
Don't worry. He mentioned the control issues and lack of options as usual in his DS video. But he didn't do basic due diligence to research or mention that the DS developers candidly revealed, months before the game was out, that they didn't know how properly translate the console experience to a PC and the port was going to be basic. The only thing I can add is that his critique was unfocused and he tended to ramble and pad commentary with too much navel gazing, dragging out five minutes worth of critique into a 20+ minute video.
Portugeezer
Member
I see, thanks.
I think TB is probably a nice guy in person. His WTF videos often give good insights, and he is clearly an intelligent guy who is very passionate about games and gamers. When he's good, he's both entertaining and informative, which is awesome.
The problem is that he also has this "super-opinionated douchebag" mode that kicks in on a regular basis. Sometimes, he will take on an opinion or cause and then go on a personal crusade, ranting about it over and over across multiple videos and mediums while lambasting all perceived opponents. It's highly distracting at best and unbearably annoying at worst. Even though his point may contain have some truth or virtue to it, the way he goes about "spreading the word" becomes a sort of fanatical activism where any view that is not in total agreement with his is completely wrong, and must be fought with huge amounts of condescension and vitriol until he feels he has proven his point.
He's mentioned this sort of behavior before in podcasts, and I think he's well aware of it. I'm not sure if he can control it, but the frequency with which he acts like this is why I don't follow him as closely as I used to.
The problem is that he also has this "super-opinionated douchebag" mode that kicks in on a regular basis. Sometimes, he will take on an opinion or cause and then go on a personal crusade, ranting about it over and over across multiple videos and mediums while lambasting all perceived opponents. It's highly distracting at best and unbearably annoying at worst. Even though his point may contain have some truth or virtue to it, the way he goes about "spreading the word" becomes a sort of fanatical activism where any view that is not in total agreement with his is completely wrong, and must be fought with huge amounts of condescension and vitriol until he feels he has proven his point.
He's mentioned this sort of behavior before in podcasts, and I think he's well aware of it. I'm not sure if he can control it, but the frequency with which he acts like this is why I don't follow him as closely as I used to.