Probably won't raise prices due to 5080 negative reviews ? is this because they feel they have an opportunity ?
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AMD Radeon RX 9070 expected to start at $479, benchmarks now released (UP: RX 9000 series reveal on Feb 28; hits shelves in early March)
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SolidQ
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All companies love margins
G-DannY
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i heard that actually the real launch price was AMD giving us 9070XT AND 300$, so MSRP was -300$
G-DannY
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for only 19,99$, a Taco Bell menu included
SolidQ
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no, only old launch price, and 32GB for AI guys
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winjer
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EDIT: These are prices in Canadian Dollars. In US dollars, it's: RX 9070 XT for $697 USD and RX 9070 for $586 USD
If these end up being the final prices....
If these end up being the final prices....
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Amd is gonna amd it seems, always making terrible decisions being reactive instead of proactive....instead of actually trying to compete and grow market share they will follow nvidias lead and lap up their table crumbs and gouge customers. I always hope AMD does good but its basically become a farce.
If these end up being the final prices....
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Gamer79
Predicts the worst decade for Sony starting 2022
If these are true than AMD just fucked itself again.
If these end up being the final prices....
metareferential
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price: "just get a nvidia gpu".
Reizo Ryuu
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rm082e
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You know they're true.
AMD always operates on a pure frames-per-dollar formula and assume their frames are worth just as much as Nvidia's frames. But every player knows they're not. We all know that in order for AMD to make any progress on market share, they have to provide more frames-per-dollar than Nvidia. That's how it's always been because the overall value of their product is lower than Nvidia's when you match up performance. Every card in the last 15 years that has sold well for them offered a little bit better price-to-performance ratio than their direct competition.
They're looking at Nvidia's lack of stock as an opportunity to charge exactly what we would all expect for this card. And Nvidia is going to come back in two months with the lower tier 5070/5060 cards with some actual stock behind them. They'll undercut AMD and the 9070 will be stuck in this weird middle-ground where it's too expensive for the budget gamers, but not performant enough for the enthusiasts who want ultra settings, high res, and high frame rate. They'll get squeezed into irrelevance yet again.
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Bry0
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$699 really doesn't sound very competitive vs the 5070 Ti (likely just shy of 4080 perf at stock clocks) assuming both are eventually available at MSRP-ish when launch demand subsides and supply increases. With e.g. 6700/6800/7800/7900 series they had a VRAM advantage at least, here they just chip away at their feature disadvantage (FSR4, better RT).
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Crayon
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O right canada. thx.
Then given this powercolor might be a chunk over msrp, xt might still be on track for 600usd.
Speaking of these threads being dumb so much of the time, there's a lot of people thinking amd has to give the shit away. Nvidia has huge marketshare, but plenty of those owners honestly considered both brands before going with nvidia. They only have to switch cross-shoppers to do a lot better atm. People who won't look at amd would need very, very low prices. To the extent it's possible to win them over, it would have to happen over the longer term after amd earned back some rep.
TheRedRiders
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I would rather pay a couple of extra bucks and get a 40 or 5080 - raster performance likely edges out the 9070 XT, and Nvidia's ML feature set is years ahead anyway, I don't expect FSR 4 to compete with DLSS 4 either. We'll see though.
If these end up being the final prices....
AMD once again dropping the ball as we predicted.
Buggy Loop
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Good guy AMD is forced to raise the prices because of evil NVIDIA.
MLID and other AMD church youtubers immediately going
Was a 4D chess move all along
winjer
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MLID and other AMD church youtubers immediately going
Was a 4D chess move all along
I made the mistake of thinking those prices were US dollars. But it's canadian.
Converting it, means the RX 9070 XT is at $697 USD and RX 9070 at $586 USD.
Soodanim
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Winjer can you not scare me like this please mate
If these end up being the final prices....
winjer
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Read my post above yours.
Soodanim
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I was blinded by emotion
winjer
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Me too.
For a while, I thought those were US dollar prices.
But since they are canadian, it's much cheaper.
kiphalfton
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If these end up being the final prices....
I mean AMD did say they weren't chasing high end anymore, and King asshole at Nvidia increased "mid-tier" pricing to $1k.
$500 is arguably overpriced for this and RTX 70 series, but we low end now.
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diffusionx
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Nvm
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Bojji
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MLID and other AMD church youtubers immediately going
Was a 4D chess move all along
AMD:
StereoVsn
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WTF!? This can’t be right….
If these end up being the final prices....
winjer
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WTF!? This can’t be right….
Please read the rest of the thread.
And I changed my post to explain those are prices in Canadian Dollars.
StereoVsn
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Yep, saw that. Much better. Not amazing considering partners will jack up the price further, but still better.
Now to see real benchmarks in actual games.
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64gigabyteram
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canadian, us, the prices are still too high. I wanted a 479 9070xt.
then again its amd, so used prices in a couple months will hopefully be closer to what gamers want
Crayon
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If it trades with a $750 5070ti for $600 and you still don't want it, you are putting a lot of value on brand and rep. Which is fine, but amd might be better off going for those who don't.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
it needs to trade with a 5070ti for 400 flat if they want marketshare. i said what i said. either that or the raytracing/pathtracing charts gotta go wild.
its not off the table for me but theres nothing stopping me from getting the 5070ti. 150 bucks is peanuts to save up- theyre not that far apart & itd be worth it for transformer dlss alone
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It's unlikely to trade in RT and FSR 4 will be supported in less games and probably is only going to compete with Nvidia's CNN model.
StereoVsn
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Yeah, all in all a $600-650 card wouldn’t be too bad as rumors place it near 4080S in performance so should be around 5070Ti.
And if FSR4, RTC and frames gen performance is decent, that would make it a fairly attractive card. Especially if they actually manage to stock it properly.
winjer
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With Optiscaler or DLSS Enabler, its possible to use FSR3.1 and XeSS with almost any game. The same will probably happen with FSR4.
Crayon
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They can still start picking up market share with something like that. No way to tell what their goals are there. Their product needs to be competitive in it's own right. Building a rep based on the same performance at half the money doesn't sound like a great move in the long run. A shopper with your attitude will be better left to hang back for some years if/when amd proves they can consistently make competitive stuff. $400? c'mon. At some point you are not worth going after.
StereoVsn
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Can they let you use DLSS for upscaling and FSR for frame Gen? Actually going to read up on this, because if it’s doable that would be helpful in some games.
kiphalfton
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What makes me worried is if the 9070 XT ends up costing the same (or more) than the 7900 XT and especially 7900 XTX and has worse performance and has less VRAM.
The 7900 XTX was going for like $820-$850 and the 7900 XT was going for like $650 around Black Friday.
Unfortunately the 7900 XT not 7900 XTX are readily available for purchase, if the 9070 XT ends up falling short of either.
The 7900 XTX was going for like $820-$850 and the 7900 XT was going for like $650 around Black Friday.
Unfortunately the 7900 XT not 7900 XTX are readily available for purchase, if the 9070 XT ends up falling short of either.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
im being lenient. its still more than what the 1070 sold for yrs ago
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Crayon
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Bojji
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10 years ago consoles were still dropping in price...
Wishful thinking, AMD will not sell those cards at loss and they (most likely) don't have enough units to change market share in any big way. GPUs are priced based on performance and not naming (xx70, xx80 etc.) in recent years so if it's on par with 4080/5070ti it won't be THAT much cheaper.