64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
i doubt 400 is selling at a loss. they just want high margins like nvidia without the software or hardware t justify em
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AMD Radeon RX 9070 expected to start at $479, benchmarks now released (UP: RX 9000 series reveal on Feb 28; hits shelves in early March)
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winjer
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Yes.
Unknown Soldier
Member
LMAO......
Nvidia should just delay the 5070 indefinitely and remove all release dates and see if AMD will also delay forever or just release their card first. This is a hilarious game of chicken and I'm here for it
Schmendrick
Member
yeah, that`s worthless. Obviously FG with no way to know about the baseline settings/performance. The high number however would suggest MFG, not just normal "last gen FG".
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They probably should delay everything until at least they're finished with alpha testing. (Damn, at this point I think everybody is just better off waiting until August anyway since maybe Nvidia will have fixed some of the problems with Blackwell and the AMD 9070 might actually be out.)
Bojji
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So I wanted to calculate some stuff. All recent rumors point to 4080/7900XTX levels of performance. Richard from DF said that this would require the biggest generational uplift from AMD ever and I think he is right.
Comparing 7800XT to 9070XT we have:
6% more cores on 9070XT
28% higher clock (that is with rumored 3100MHz Boost clock)
0% higher memory BW.
Combined, that's ~~34% more performance in not memory limited scenarios and assuming that GPU scales EXTREMELY WELL with higher clock. So far differences between RDNA 1/2/3 in raster using GPUs with close specs and the same clock were minimal, so why would RDNA4 be any different?
No way that this GPU will reach this level of performance in raster against GPUs with better specs. Prove me wrong AMD!
Comparing 7800XT to 9070XT we have:
6% more cores on 9070XT
28% higher clock (that is with rumored 3100MHz Boost clock)
0% higher memory BW.
Combined, that's ~~34% more performance in not memory limited scenarios and assuming that GPU scales EXTREMELY WELL with higher clock. So far differences between RDNA 1/2/3 in raster using GPUs with close specs and the same clock were minimal, so why would RDNA4 be any different?
No way that this GPU will reach this level of performance in raster against GPUs with better specs. Prove me wrong AMD!
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SolidQ
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Caches and WGP. Soon event
There will be some games with bandwidth limit compared to XTX. That why they need GDRR7 version to remove limit
China guys saying it's 1080p ultra + FG in both situation
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SolidQ
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it's very long to PC release GTA6, but for you 9070 vanilla would be best choice.
StereoVsn
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Wonder if there is a chance the rumored 32GB “pro@ card will use GDDR7.
SmoothBrain
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can't buy what doesn't exist, though
HogIsland
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If there were a bunch of games the 6700XT is stuttering on, I would. But I think I can make it to the next AMD (10070?) refresh easily. What's the 2025 game that's gonna make my PC melt? I'm probably most excited for Judas and the graphics don't look bleeding edge.
SolidQ
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Uknown, if name 9070XT than still old(they use clamshell for 32gb). GDRR7 they would be call 9080.
RDNA5 target in 2026, but usually going xx80 series first.
I don't know what you playing
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Unlikely to happen. The memory controller would have to be specifically designed to handle both. On top of that you'd have to have completely different PCBs for GDDR6 and 7 variants as the ball count on the ICs are different, the voltage is different etc.
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HogIsland
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Lately, I don't know what the next big thing is until its actually launched and reviewed. I wasn't expecting Kingdom Come 2 to be such a big hit. Plus I could easily still be playing games from 2022 in 2026.Uknown, if name 9070XT than still old(they use clamshell for 32gb). GDRR7 they would be call 9080.
RDNA5 target in 2026, but usually going xx80 series first.
I don't know what you playing
SolidQ
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That pretty much almost everyone playing old games on new cards
none know for now, December price was 500$ for XT
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HogIsland
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underrated feature of pc gaming. An unremarkable AAA game like Ghost Recon Breakpoint isn't known as a graphics showcase, but on a midrange gpu in 2026 it'll look crazy.
SolidQ
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Yeah, but GTA4 was lagging even 10 years later PC
Crayon
Member
So I wanted to calculate some stuff. All recent rumors point to 4080/7900XTX levels of performance. Richard from DF said that this would require the biggest generational uplift from AMD ever and I think he is right.
Comparing 7800XT to 9070XT we have:
6% more cores on 9070XT
28% higher clock (that is with rumored 3100MHz Boost clock)
0% higher memory BW.
Combined, that's ~~34% more performance in not memory limited scenarios and assuming that GPU scales EXTREMELY WELL with higher clock. So far differences between RDNA 1/2/3 in raster using GPUs with close specs and the same clock were minimal, so why would RDNA4 be any different?
No way that this GPU will reach this level of performance in raster against GPUs with better specs. Prove me wrong AMD!
Sound. Rumors have been skewing super optimistic aside from the latest of high prices. Amd guy already said 900usd is off the table but internet will run with anything, good or bad.
winjer
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Unknown Soldier
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LOL so Nvidia really made AMD go first huh?
This should be entertaining at the very least
SolidQ
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It's can be other model, like 9800, or 9070XTX
Edgelord79
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Who cares. That’s not the consumers problem. That’s AMDs problem.
Rudius
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If the AMD card is more powerful for the same money you could use a higher internal resolution for FSR4, for example 1440 to 4K instead of 1080 to 4K, thus decreasing the DLSS advantage.
simpatico
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I grabbed a used 6750xt for $200 a few weeks ago as a hold-over. It just seems like there isn't an honestly solid ray tracing card outside of 40 and 5090. Not one that I'll confidently shell out for at least. It's been a long time since I've ran Radeon graphics. HD4780 would have been the last. I'm pleased to say I've tested all my tough to run games and haven't run into any of the AMD driver jank they're known for. These 9070 results look good enough for me to optimistically target the series after this to be worthy, full investment into a proper RT card. It doesn't look like Nvidia is returning to sanity any time soon.
Right but the 9070 XT is expected to trade blows with the 5070 Ti, not beat it by an appreciable margin. Obviously your point applies if AMD price the 9070 XT against the 5070 instead.
Puscifer
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I don't think they made them go first. If anything they feel confident in showing what they have IMO. Nvidia made some bold claims that are backfiring because they sold everyone outside a 5090 a software update
DenchDeckard
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I'd say 9070xt will be around 5070 Ti pricing. Maybe a little cheaper.
CrustyBritches
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If I end up getting a 9070 XT I'd like to go with either Sapphire Nitro+ or PowerColor Red Devil. I had Red Devil RX 480 8GB and Nitro+ RX 470 4GB in the past and they were awesome cards.
PowerColor Red Devil:
PowerColor Red Devil:
SolidQ
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Here is Brick Edition
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
That’s interesting, does it have the power connectors hidden behind that backplate?
Wolzard
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Crayon
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PeteBull
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Thats another significant proof of that recent coretex video, looks like amd indeed is targeting 4080/5080 performance, not saying it will be exactly as good but might be ballpark of it, at least in raster. Obviously card gonna be pricey, not that 600$ or lower bs, but likely 800-900 usd msrp.
900w power supply MINIMUM?
So AMD cards still need way more power than the Nvidia one? (I'm not upgrading my 750W power supply.)
900w power supply MINIMUM?
winjer
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900w power supply MINIMUM?
Companies always exaggerate a lot the requirements for the PSU.
In part because there is a lot of people that buy cheap, inefficient PSUs.
In part because there are people with CPUs that use 300-400W, such as the 14900K.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
At that MSRP people will just buy 5070Ti (if they can find it).
I can’t believe AMD is that dumb… nvm, yes I can. I guess they could be banking on lack of availability from Nvidia initially?
I still think in US it won’t be more than $700 MSRP (more for partner cards) and hopefully a bit less. But likely not due to tariffs.
Add 20% more in Europe due to VAT.
Bry0
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Weird, not even the 7900xtx recommends 900w.
900w power supply MINIMUM?
SolidQ
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Randall365
Member
My 4080 Super did not work well with my 750w - all sorts of issues - my 1000w sees it off well. I can see why they say 900w for this if it is comparable to a 4080 Super.
By the way, any gamer who buys a high end graphics card is bound to have a great processor, big AIO, tons of RAM and RGB etc, so quite a bit of power is needed for all that too.
By the way, any gamer who buys a high end graphics card is bound to have a great processor, big AIO, tons of RAM and RGB etc, so quite a bit of power is needed for all that too.
DenchDeckard
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Ive been told that there could be some price drops on 9070 XT cost price ahead of launch. This would of course be through a price protection credit note as a hell of a lot of suppliers have stock.
Something tells me the 5th and 6th of March are going to be very interesting.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Yes, currently there is nothing basically as both Nvidia and AMD stopped production of previous gen cards for the last part.Amazon US. People gonna buy what aviable
Which is why I said need to wait till March to see what’s going on or maybe even April.
NeonDelta
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What kind of power consumption is this going to have then.
900w power supply MINIMUM?
I’ll be sticking on the green side if this is the case
Edit ) seems like this is just the Red Devil due to overclock. The reaper is 750. And the non xt reaper is 650 according to videocardz
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