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[AngelMuffin]

Sad times when your flagship card is only mid range at best...

The overwhelming majority buy midrange and below.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I'd say 9070xt will be around 5070 Ti pricing. Maybe a little cheaper.

Which is fine (not great) if the rast performance is near 4080 and RT is near 4070 Ti and FSR4 is competitive with DLSS3 (it ain’t gonna be better than 4)

I plan to get a 9070XT for my living Steam machine that currently has a 7800XT

My prediction is $599 for 9070XT and $499 for 9070.

 

[SolidQ]

seems like this is just the Red Devil due to overclock

1000W.
They writing high number for like 14900KS etc

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

900w is wild

 

[TheRedRiders]

900w is wild

I wonder how they're going to market their "leadership efficiency" claims which they always throw out thinking it works against Nvidia.

 

[Radical_3d]

900w power supply MINIMUM?

lol, and people call this mid range? PC gaming has become a parody of itself.

 

[Gp1]

Might as well plug it directly in my fuse box with a 9000btu HVAC on it.

Wtf AMD.

We expect some competition to Nvidia not Greta camping on my backyard.

 

[SolidQ]

900w is wild

You forgot there is a lot "Chinese" PSU's with 2\3 power

 

[Crayon]

That alleged benchmark slide had some power numbers on it. 330 and 220, iirc.

 

[winjer]

LOL, some people actually think that the PSU requirement on the box is the same thing as the power a GPU uses.
FFS, all companies place higher than reality, to compensate for those dumbasses that have a cheap Chinese PSU.

 

[Radical_3d]

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

LOL, some people actually think that the PSU requirement on the box is the same thing as the power a GPU uses.

...nobody is thinking that, people are comparing it to previous products like the 7900xt which had a 800w spec, even the 7900xtx had 850w.

This "mid range" 6/700 dollar gpu having 900w is wild.

 

[winjer]

...nobody is thinking that, people are comparing it to previous products like the 7900xt which had a 800w spec, even the 7900xtx had 850w.

This "mid range" 6/700 dollar gpu having 900w is wild.

Just wait for reviews. Not worth making a drama over the PSU requirements on the box.
We already saw this non-sense with the 4090 and 5090, just recently.

 

[Corporal.Hicks]

Prices include VAT.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Sad times when your flagship card is only mid range at best...

Personally, I think it would be great if AMD delivered some serious competition in the mid range. We need some market disruption and hopefully they deliver.

 

[dave_d]

Admittedly I thought the power requirements on the AMD boards were a lot higher. (Just looked up the 7900XTX which is 355W. That doesn't seem that bad compared to the 5070ti's 300W.) Guess we'll see what the 9070xt is pulling.

 

[G-DannY]

Admittedly I thought the power requirements on the AMD boards were a lot higher. (Just looked up the 7900XTX which is 355W. That doesn't seem that bad compared to the 5070ti's 300W.) Guess we'll see what the 9070xt is pulling.

lolwut? my ex Sapphire 7900XT was 318W tdp and always pulled that at 100% load, even in games

for comparison, my actual 4080S hovers between 220 and 300w in same games. more likely average of 250-260w (even giving lot more performance btw)

 

[dave_d]

lolwut? my ex Sapphire 7900XT was 318W tdp and always pulled that at 100% load, even in games

for comparison, my actual 4080S hovers between 220 and 300w in same games. more likely average of 250-260w (even giving lot more performance btw)

Damn, so pretty much the 5070ti listed at 300W will probably be in a similar range. (Vs the 4080S 320W) Guess I won't be surprised if the AMD actually do require quite a bit of extra power for the same performance.

 

[Gp1]

Prices include VAT.

DOA

 

[FalconPunch]

DOA

It depends. If the 9070 is as fast than the 4070ti and the 9070xt is as fast as the 5080, then it’s not a bad price….

However, I have doubt….

 

[Bojji]

It depends. If the 9070 is as fast than the 4070ti and the 9070xt is as fast as the 5080, then it’s not a bad price….

However, I have doubt….

Specs says that it's not possible.

People were expecting 5080 to be 10% faster than 4090 (MLiD or some other "leaker") but looking at specs it was quite fucking obvious that it would be weaker. Same is true here.

 

[marjo]

Prices include VAT.

If this is accurate, they've clearly learned nothing. They're not going to gain market share by lobing $50 off the nearest equivalent Nvidia card.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Prices include VAT.

So maybe something like $700usd msrp for entry level 9070 XT, and $550-600usd for 9070? Not very appealing pricing. Guess we'll have to see what sort of performance and availability they have.

 

[FalconPunch]

Specs says that it's not possible.

People were expecting 5080 to be 10% faster than 4090 (MLiD or some other "leaker") but looking at specs it was quite fucking obvious that it would be weaker. Same is true here.

I meant 4080

 

[Celcius]

I miss the days when Radeon was owned by ATI and competitive with Nvidia

 

[Jinxed]

Sad times when your flagship card is only mid range at best...

Not really no, that's what I used to like about AMD actually. My 600$ CAD 6800xt is still chewing every game I throw at it in 1440p ultra settings.

 

[asdasdasdbb]

I miss the days when Radeon was owned by ATI and competitive with Nvidia

Back then, AMD didn't have to price their GPU $200 cheaper than NV's to even get people interested tho.

 

[Rocco Schiavone]

I hope that I can at least squeeze one silent card with max 315length in my MATX case.

 

[Crayon]

Am I the only one who's going to ask where those prices came from?

 

[CrustyBritches]

Am I the only one who's going to ask where those prices came from?

Canada Computers & Electronics: Your one-stop computer shop

Shop Canada Computers for electronics, computers, gaming gear & more: fast shipping & in-store pickup on the latest tech.

www.canadacomputers.com

To be fair, they list something like the PowerColor Hellhound 7800XT Limited Edition at $699 when the US MSRP on that was ~$500usd from what I can find.

POWERCOLOR Hellhound AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB GDDR6

POWERCOLOR Hellhound AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB GDDR6

www.canadacomputers.com

PowerColor Radeon RX 7800 XT Hellhound Review - Amazing Noise Levels

PowerColor's Radeon RX 7800 XT Hellhound is an amazing custom-design for AMD's new release. It sells at the $500 baseline price, yet has the best cooler of all cards tested today, with whisper-quiet fan settings, dual BIOS and RGB illumination.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Crayon]

Canada Computers & Electronics: Your one-stop computer shop

Shop Canada Computers for electronics, computers, gaming gear & more: fast shipping & in-store pickup on the latest tech.

www.canadacomputers.com

To be fair, they list something like the PowerColor Hellhound 7800XT Limited Edition at $699 when the US MSRP on that was ~$500usd from what I can find.

POWERCOLOR Hellhound AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB GDDR6

POWERCOLOR Hellhound AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT 16GB GDDR6

www.canadacomputers.com

PowerColor Radeon RX 7800 XT Hellhound Review - Amazing Noise Levels

PowerColor's Radeon RX 7800 XT Hellhound is an amazing custom-design for AMD's new release. It sells at the $500 baseline price, yet has the best cooler of all cards tested today, with whisper-quiet fan settings, dual BIOS and RGB illumination.

www.techpowerup.com

Ah, nice. Thanks.

Everyone running away with every little scrap. Stay frosty, people!

 

[Gaiff]

Prices include VAT.

No such thing as VAT in Canada. There's HST and GST and they vary based on province. In Quebec for instance, it's another 15%, but in Alberta, it's only 5%. Likewise, the taxes on good also varies per state, so it's a bit difficult to know the exact MSRP.

 

[Crayon]

Just saw a YouTube thumb that said "$1,100!?!" Lol.

GPU launches are fun. Like a mini console launch.

 

[Wooxsvan]

im looking for a 1080p upgrade for my kid. yall think the 7600 or 7600xt are gonna fall that much $$ when these come out? i can get a 7600 for $250 pretty regularly

 

[Insolent]

Bought 7900 xtx today for a new pc, fuck all this nvidia and amd bullshit with new cards

 

[Crayon]

im looking for a 1080p upgrade for my kid. yall think the 7600 or 7600xt are gonna fall that much $$ when these come out? i can get a 7600 for $250 pretty regularly

Kinda hard to say unless you watch the availability and prices for a bit. I bought a card 6 months ago that had been steadily dropping in price for a long time. Made a good guess and got it when it bottomed out. Started selling out at that price and the price shot up like crazy.

 

[kiphalfton]

If this is accurate, they've clearly learned nothing. They're not going to gain market share by lobing $50 off the nearest equivalent Nvidia card.

AMD hangs off Nvidias nut sack, with the hope of getting some action from people who missed out on Nvidia stuff.

 

[kimcorecoba]

Might as well plug it directly in my fuse box with a 9000btu HVAC on it.

Wtf AMD.

We expect some competition to Nvidia not Greta camping on my backyard.

I laughed out soo loud at the last line in public.

 

[FingerBang]

Prices include VAT.

Regardless of tax, why the fuck do two single manufacturers make so many different models?

It seems like the MSRP for these cards would be about 550 for the 9070 and 750 for the 9070xt. Seems like AMD wants to price them exactly like Nvidia.

Is it stupid? Sure, even assuming the performance is vastly superior (20/30% faster?). But you won't be able to buy a 5070/5070ti at MSRP anyway, so AMD will still be the much cheaper option lol

 

[Crayon]

^^^ $550 DX would have to kick the shit out of a 5070 to turn heads.

 

[Bojji]

^^^ $550 DX would have to kick the shit out of a 5070 to turn heads.

It has more vram at least.

AMD will get customers by default no matter the price (unless it's absurd) because there are NO GPUs at the moment in normal prices, even higher end RDNA3 GPUs are selling out. They have few months before Nvidia is able to restock.

 

[winjer]

• PowerColor RX 9070 Reaper: 650W (2x 8-pin) AMD Reference Specs
  
  
• PowerColor RX 9070 XT Reaper: 750W (2x 8-pin) AMD Reference Specs
  
  
• PowerColor RX 9070 XT Red Devil: 900W (3x 8-pin) OC Specs

 

[SolidQ]

It has more vram at least.

and more perf

interesting what is $ US, CAD, AUD?

 

[Astray]

XFX Radeon RX 9070 XT Listed at $750, RX 9070 at $650 in leaked Amazon Listing

https://videocardz.com/pixel/xfx-radeon-rx-9070-xt-listed-at-750-rx-9070-at-650-in-leaked-amazon-listing

Ruh-Roh.

 

[SolidQ]

Ruh-Roh.

almost minus 150-200$ compare to 5070ti

 

[marjo]

Pricingd their cards to try to take advantage of

It has more vram at least.

AMD will get customers by default no matter the price (unless it's absurd) because there are NO GPUs at the moment in normal prices, even higher end RDNA3 GPUs are selling out. They have few months before Nvidia is able to restock.

Yes, but pricing the cards to try and take advantage of a temporary shortage is a terrible long term strategy. They need to come out of the gate strong. That is when reviews happen and when people formulate an opinion of the card in their mind. Reducing the price a few months later won't help. Even Hardware Unboxed, which is often accused of being pro AMD, speculates that they need about a 25%-30% price per performance advantage to actually move the needle at all.

It seems like they're just going to repeat the same idiotic mistakes they've done for the last few years.

 

[BeardSpike]

https://www.reddit.com/r/gpu/s/gWbbG9XbHF

Dude has got a RX 9070XT and will do the unboxing tomorrow plus some benchmarks on preview drivers

 

[Mithos]

Unboxing from the above redditer, on X (Youtube video was taken down)

 

[Crayon]

It has more vram at least.

AMD will get customers by default no matter the price (unless it's absurd) because there are NO GPUs at the moment in normal prices, even higher end RDNA3 GPUs are selling out. They have few months before Nvidia is able to restock.

I'm of course going to say exaaactly what marjo said above me. So I'll try to add-

There are accountants at amd looking at that money there would be leaving on the table for the next few months and he stock they built out that would sell out super fast to scalpers. It must have been a fight - if it's still not ongoing.

If there are still 9060 and 9050 parts to come, those are the real chance to get some market share and rep if they can set up for people to be positive and excited for them. And this is that chance.

Cards get reviewed on their msrp whether it's real or not. AMD can cast a glow over their whole generation. And in two years time, we'll be in the next thread and the whole vibe would be different.

That's all about market share though. Maybe the GPU business is easier and less volatile when they are more of a niche than a contender.

 

[SighFight]

almost minus 150-200$ compare to 5070ti

I doubt that it will be enough. I do not expect the performance to match exactly and then you're left with "oh, the Nvidia card is 10% faster and has better production software support, maybe I want to try Ai?" --> Nvidia it is

I think AMD and Nvidia are currently slowly killing PC gaming...