Assassin's Creed Shadows officially has surpassed the launches of AC Origins and AC Odyssey according to UbiSoft
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
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HeisenbergFX4
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Kacho
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Yes
Lokaum D+
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shit, cant remember the email i registered my account
mckmas8808
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Why are people acting as if 65K CCUs is something terrible though?
Kagoshima_Luke
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Because it is? It's a triple AAA release with no real competition and a full day 1 Steam launch which hasn't been the case with many Ubi games. Cyberpunk, a 5 year old game, had a 24 hour peak of 61K. 65K CCU is garbage and there will be some kind of fallout internally at Ubi; it's just a question of how extreme that will be.
mckmas8808
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But you can also pay the game on PC on the Ubi subscription "for free" too right?
Topher
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"Shadows should do about 6M in its first month on its trajectory. Valhalla did 8M."
That is pretty dang good considering Valhalla launched alongside PS5 and XS consoles and was cross gen.
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If the Steam numbers suck because they've turned all their purchases into $18 rentals, that isn't exactly great either.
mckmas8808
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True. But what if they turned 30% of their purchases into $18 rentals?
Humdinger
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I know it does (sometimes), but the poster exaggerated how much of a role it plays. He made it sound like everyone posting positive reviews was actually disappointed in the game but so upset about having spent $70 that they would fool themselves into thinking it was really good, when actually they didn't like it and were being dishonest with everyone.
That's nonsense. If people are dissatisfied with a product, they are more likely, not less, to lodge a negative review.
Besides, it's a matter of scale. The rationalization is more likely to happen with big investments - a car, a house, a marriage. With a trivial investment like a videogame, you'd have to be a pretty insecure person to need to rationalize dissatisfaction away as a good choice.
The Mad Draklor
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I'll just quote myself from the other thread:
Shadow's retention is much worse than Odyssey's, too. On the Monday after Odyssey peaked at 62K, it peaked at 51.1K. Contrast that with Shadows which peaked at 44.1K after hitting 64.8K the day before.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
But total percentage is a horrible way to measure any one game's success on PC or Steam. Why would you think otherwise?
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Legendary Japanese dev says “normal people” don’t care about Assassin’s Creed Shadows controversy - Dexerto
Bayonetta creator Hideki Kamiya has defended Assassin’s Creed Shadows believing the game has received a lot of hate from a few “super-intense people”.
www.dexerto.com
BosmerCulter
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
er ... it did ..
It had sold 10+ million as of the last reporting in 2020 (5 years ago). Probably has sold some more since then with various sales and it getting the PS5/Series native patch later on.
Ubisoft says 11 games sold over 10 million copies each in PS4/Xbox One era
The revealed revealed that 11 of its games have sold more than 10 million copies in the current console cycle.
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Day 1 sales =/= lifetime sales.
Bumblebeetuna
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Legendary Japanese dev says “normal people” don’t care about Assassin’s Creed Shadows controversy - Dexerto
Bayonetta creator Hideki Kamiya has defended Assassin’s Creed Shadows believing the game has received a lot of hate from a few “super-intense people”.
Humdinger
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There are 8 separate threads about this game on the first page. I'm surprised at how much heat it's generating.
DeafTourette
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I'm not. Normies don't care about the "controversy"... They just want a good game.
Unknown Soldier
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The problem is that Ubisoft never actually announced actual sales numbers for Valhalla, the only thing they ever told their investors what that it "exceeded $1 billion revenue"
So we don't actually know how Valhalla performed, and I doubt we'll ever get any concrete information about how Shadows will perform
The only true indicator we'll ever have of how Shadows performed is if Tencent acquires Ubisoft or not. We can assume it underperformed if this happens
Blitzkrieg!
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Tencent is more than likely taking Ubisoft's scalp even if the sales performance is extraordinary (it's not). It's a foregone conclusion at this point.
Topher
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You could say the same thing to the "people" trying so hard to claim it is a flop.
MatrixReloaded101
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It’s actually the opposite… people desperately wanted the game to fail because some people did not like the idea of having a black samurai and female ninja leads. For months, before the game released people were super confident the game would be a complete flop and that didn’t happen so now those same people are trying to desperately to create “new metrics” to show why this game was a failure.
It’s extremely stupid and sad at the same time because at the end of the day companies should be able to just make the games they want to make.
Unknown Soldier
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It's actually both, we have truly insane people on both the "want it to succeed" and "want it to fail" sides
The reality is that in a capitalist society, the companies have the right to make the games they want to make and the gamers have the right to not buy games they don't want to play. See Dragon Age: The Veilguard for more information
shinevisual
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Legendary Japanese dev says “normal people” don’t care about Assassin’s Creed Shadows controversy - Dexerto
Bayonetta creator Hideki Kamiya has defended Assassin’s Creed Shadows believing the game has received a lot of hate from a few “super-intense people”.
Japan has fallen
shinevisual
Banned
this is just gaslighting when you know that isnt true.
Most of the videos and tweets anybody sees on AC Shadows is overwhelmingly negative because of Ubisoft's reputation, AC post Odyssey and Yasuke.
PeteBull
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Dunno if u care enough but AC Blackflag is getting full fledged remake soon, so if u wanna play/replay it one more time dunno if u wanna maybe wait a bit longer
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pudel
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Topher
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The only thing that is "truly insane" is the gaslighting. I think rational people can look at the Steam CCU numbers and say that isn't great but also look at reports of how the game is doing overall and say it is obviously doing better elsewhere. Either way, I don't think anyone is arguing publishers shouldn't be able to make the game they want and gamers buy the games they want.
Lokaum D+
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Dunno if u care enough but AC Blackflag is getting full fledged remake soon, so if u wanna play/replay it one more time dunno if u wanna maybe wait a bit longer
I already platinumed the game, just wanted to play It again, but yeah, day one on remake.
Mattyp
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Who knows how it’s doing this early on, measuring sales or CCU is irrelevant when Ubisoft has Uplay or whatever it’s called now the same as Gamepass. They would rather you sign up to that and forget for half the year then sell a copy of this game contrary to what people think it’s the entire reason they offer the game on that service.
Haven’t played a AC since black flag and this 1 title isn’t going to save the company the size they are with the overheads and expenses they have at this point. How long until they can kick the next title out the door?
Haven’t played a AC since black flag and this 1 title isn’t going to save the company the size they are with the overheads and expenses they have at this point. How long until they can kick the next title out the door?
MMaRsu
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Ubi is done sooner or later 1 game selling well wont change that