Assassin's Creed: Shadows releases on Steam with CCU of ~65k (highest series launch on the platform)
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PeteBull
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Here in poland ubi+ is 74pln, game is 289pln on steam so yeh, u saving money even if u buy ubiconnect+ for 3 months than fork up once for the game, its almost 4x cheaper from game price actually.
Hence those 2m players announcement is bringing less than 50% of revenue vs proper 2m sold copies.
The Mad Draklor
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Out of curiosity, the Steam version of GoT which came out 4 years after its original release hit a peak of 77K and currently has a CCU of over 14K.
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MMaRsu
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True but ghost was also available on keysites for 45 euro's Steam Version. I know because I bought it from cdkeys
Most of you was brainwashed into this mess anyway & that should have been clear when it started popping up in politics on the mainstage.
The Mad Draklor
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I mean... I got an email from Instant Gaming that I could get AC Shadows for 29% off so it goes both ways.True but ghost was also available on keysites for 45 euro's Steam Version. I know because I bought it from cdkeys
Not to mention, the Steam version of GoT came out at a time where the hype cycle was long long over whereas AC Shadows released day and date on Steam.
MMaRsu
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I assume that Instant Gaming is a Ubiconnect key.
Which is what im saying most people who didnt want to buy full price bought a key for ubiconnect so they wont show up on steam ccu
Denton
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Cheapest keys on grey resellers go for 49 euros. Not 40.
More importantly though, every game these days can be bought cheaper on these resellers at launch than on Steam, but Steam (if there is a steam release day one) has dominant number of sales (on PC) anyway. Every company that ever sold games will confirm that.
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PeteBull
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Looks like it started going down right before hitting 65k ccu. Thats pretty much it for any hope of it being successful on steam.
Gonzito
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adamsapple
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Grifters:
The Chairman cooking up threads about the game's reception in Palau Island as we speak.
You're surprised that there's 'different names' compared to a game that came out 16 years ago?
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PeteBull
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I bet they avoid that piece of turd stock like a plague ;D
nemiroff
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No, you don't know me, and that's fine. The thing is, I learnt my echo-chamber lessons a long time ago, which is why I always push back on pandering no matter the side. We all know why Ubi put that character in the game in the first place, I'm just saying that it doesn't really matter anymore because it feels like I might even find myself enjoying the story arch, who knows, I'm open to it. That's all.
simpatico
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I thought Ubisoft was a French company? I'd be equally surprised if an Atlus JRPG was full of Germanic surnames.You're surprised that there's 'different names' compared to a game that came out 16 years ago?
balls of snow
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Looks like Ass Creed is here to stay. Ubisoft is touch and go but the ip still has some staying power. Have fun being mad at lesbian witches in the next ac.
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Topher
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According to?
simpatico
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Do you think their expansion was successful? Does it make them a more appealing investment? Damn I want some croissants now.
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Kacho
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Damn I didn’t even consider that. Brutal.
Topher
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Sales discussions requiring investor status is always a weak take dude
But Odyssey was also from a time when Ubisoft did not have a subscription service.
Without knowing how many people used the service to play the game, there are more variables to consider than just Steam population
simpatico
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It doesn't require it, but it certainly begs the question. I've always thought gaming forum posters vastly underestimate the material value of the industry knowledge they have. At this moment in time, I think an active GAF poster has a better chance at predicting sales success than the consultants at big publishers. Look no further than the 2024 bombas. None of those shocked GAF, but they sure shocked the fuck out of EA, WB and Sony. Anybody not playing in that sandbox is leaving free money on the table. Every one of those plays was an effortless W.
Ran into a similar goldmine among UFC/MMA diehards a few years ago. Vegas didn't know how to handicap those fights, and anyone who just watched the card every Saturday was at a huge advantage against the oddsmakers. Begged those fellas to cash in on it. Vegas has caught up now and that advantage is gone. But the gaming one seems evergreen at this point. Industry pendulum swing could close the door. Get in while you can fellas.
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Denton
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Seems the peak has been reached, it is all downhill from here.
Let's see, almost two months old $40 million budgeted RPG, second game in a relatively new IP
Latest Ubisoft AAA $200+ million extravaganza whose success is important for the company to survive
Now, yes, the astroturfers and Ubisoft defenders will claim that consoles and cheap grey resellers and $20 dollar subscriptions will save it!
But, in couple months during investor call we will find out if that is indeed the case.
Also, I suspect very few people would think even few months ago that result like this was likely. And very few would claim that 64K peak CCU is great result for an "Assassin's Creed" mainline game.
Let's see, almost two months old $40 million budgeted RPG, second game in a relatively new IP
Latest Ubisoft AAA $200+ million extravaganza whose success is important for the company to survive
Now, yes, the astroturfers and Ubisoft defenders will claim that consoles and cheap grey resellers and $20 dollar subscriptions will save it!
But, in couple months during investor call we will find out if that is indeed the case.
Also, I suspect very few people would think even few months ago that result like this was likely. And very few would claim that 64K peak CCU is great result for an "Assassin's Creed" mainline game.
Gaiff
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Hence why I said, "middle of the road". If I went with Steam alone, it’d be a bomb.
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GHG
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whelp ...
The number of steam users then were half of what they are now.
"Whelp" indeed.
The Mad Draklor
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Blitzkrieg!
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Yes I don’t think the CCU number is very informative. The more telling bit of information may be that Ubisoft hasn’t hit us with a “3 million players” tweet yet. AAA games typically do 40-50% of their total sales in the first week. We’re through the meaty half of the first week, and they would need to move 4-5 million units to hit 10 million and be in line with Odyssey.
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Astray
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The amount of reaching in this thread is amazing. Every person brings out arbitrary games this thing needs to beat in order to be a success.. Completely disregarding things like market competition at the time of release, pricing etc.
It's like the very existence of this game trolls people for some reason and they have this itch to prove it's a failure.
It's like the very existence of this game trolls people for some reason and they have this itch to prove it's a failure.
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SEGAvangelist
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People think this number is good?
MMaRsu
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Ofcourse not, Ubisoft has been terrible for years and there isnt a reason to suspect stock would go up anytime soon.
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Giallo Corsa
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"Lost"
and
"Good game so far 10h in" (for a typical Ubisoft slop 70 hour+ padded type of game).
Man, this type of emotional investment...I just can't, it's like some people get their kicks by trying to do...whatever it is they're doing.
Fighting over some silly ideology thing for the typical "flavor of the month®" type of game is just...
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Killer8
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The only thing that signifies is that the series' sales have not grown in line with the PC market size. It's been pointed out repeatedly that both Origins and Odyssey sold over 10 million copies (*across all platforms), with similar Steam CCU numbers. Shadows could simply sell 10 million again when the market would've suggested it should sell 25 million.
Obviously for a publicly traded company, a lack of growth is not good, neither is missing sales targets if they were aiming for higher. But if it ends up selling the same as previous games then that is also far from the financial disaster that napkin mathematicians are predicting.
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yurinka
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As I remember after they did shut down or merged a few in recent months they have almost 40 studios and a workforce of between 18K and 19K people (they were between 20K and 21K a couple years ago or so).
It's a global multinational company with presence in a ton of countries, but yes, their HQ is in France. The country where theyhave the biggest amount of workers by far is Canada.
Lol no, but they have to pretend it is anyway. Veilguard all over again.
Emm no you're very mistaken here.
For me those who waste their time in ideological bullshit are both toxic and wrong on both sides.
Trying to make things you don't like to fail is the embarassing emotional investement you're mentioning.
The game is good and it's doing well. If you don't like it play something else.
GHG
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I mean .. and ?
Steam had what 16m subscribers before, it's not like it was saturating a notable amount of Steam users then *or* now. People who want this on Steam are were and are getting it on Steam in both timelines
Firstly, you don't "subscribe" to steam, and secondly, the context surrounding the environment upon which these various games released on matters.
They now have well over double the audience to sell to on the platform, yet their CCU numbers do not reflect that.
simpatico
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Seems like the more they branch out the more diluted the product becomes.
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