http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...nophon-is-a-dual-citizen-20170819-gxzu0g.html
Xenophon's a Brit too.
Man he really should not have been cracking jokes about his citizenship like he did when all this started
Certainly given current senate makeup they'd be screwed out of passing anything.
At this rate there won't be any left by Christmas.
54(+1)/46(-1) Newspoll. 12 to go!
The ABS may take a statistical approach to make the SSM opinion poll more accurate, basically fudge the numbers to make up for voting difference between age groups. . Not sure if I think this will happen but involving the ABS whose mandate is to give the most accurate representation, not to just take a straw poll like the AEC, may cause completely havoc and invoke further legal cases. Somewhere Malcolm is tearing his hair out.
54(+1)/46(-1) Newspoll. 12 to go!
The ABS may take a statistical approach to make the SSM opinion poll more accurate, basically fudge the numbers to make up for voting difference between age groups. . Not sure if I think this will happen but involving the ABS whose mandate is to give the most accurate representation, not to just take a straw poll like the AEC, may cause completely havoc and invoke further legal cases. Somewhere Malcolm is tearing his hair out.
They'll take demographic information to determine rate of reply among different groups, then extrapolate the opinion of the entire country from that based on the last census. What's there to not understand?That doesn't really add up to me. If it's a voluntary poll, the sample space is 'who replied'. No correction necessary. Everyone else is automatically 'chose not to answer'.
They'll take demographic information to determine rate of reply among different groups, then extrapolate the opinion of the entire country from that based on the last census. What's there to not understand?
Ugh, I understand what it's saying. I doubt this guy's heresy idea will be done.They'll take demographic information to determine rate of reply among different groups, then extrapolate the opinion of the entire country from that based on the last census. What's there to not understand?
Results will be official statistics in the form of a count of response (Yes, No and Invalid) by Commonwealth Electoral Division (CED), State/Territory and National.
Information from the Electoral Roll will be used independently to produce a participation rate by age and gender for each Commonwealth Electoral Division (CED), State/Territory and National.
Omg Christensen totally just checked the one that only asked questions about him and not his parents, didn't he?
Yep!
Can't be an election for another year I believe, since we just had a DD.I mean there will probably just be an election.
Can't be an election for another year I believe, since we just had a DD.
Can't be an election for another year I believe, since we just had a DD.
Yep, so assuming Labor is handed the key, while they may benefit from a house election they'll still get a bad senate, so it's not in their interests to do so practically. More inability either way, which while not their fault would damage their brand and continue to erode the public's faith in Canberra.
that's my worry though, as soon as they have some deadlock, or are pushed left by the Greens, murdoch and the Libs have a field day. I guess maybe needing both Greens and NXT/indies might even policies out if they all work together?Labor (26) + Green (9) + NXT (3) is a workable block of 38.Take one off for the President and they'd only need 1 more. Lambie backs the ALP on the economy, Leyonhjelm is open to a lot of social policy even he comes from a completely different stance, Guichuhi is unknown at this point and Hinch is pretty amenable on most things.
It would be a pain in arse for a while but it could work and Labor could call another election a year or two later to bring the houses back in line.
Why are all these Labor MPs refusing to release their documents? I would have thought it'd just be a letter from the respective consulate confirming you've denounced the right to citizenship so I can't think of any privacy concerns.
I fear that Pandora's Box has been opened and so now there would still be all the abuse and nastiness, over "people not getting their say".hopefully an election is called.
Perhaps then we can avoid this horrific plebiscite.
I fear that Pandora's Box has been opened and so now there would still be all the abuse and nastiness, over "people not getting their say".
The other day when there wad the liberal party meeting to decide whether to have the plebiscite still, my boss started talking me to about a 'horrible undemocratic decision' and asked me several times in a few minutes if I was going to Canberra to vote, if I already had, etc. He was being absurd and inappropriate. I thought for the rest of the shift they had decided on a free vote. I found out when I could check the news that they hadn't decided yet.
Senator Canavan has conceded he has been an Italian citizen since he was 2 - when he previously blamed a 2006 application by his mother - while Senator Roberts appeared to admit that he had not filled in his British citizenship renunciation documents until after he was elected.
How we he a citizen since he was 2? Birth sure, but 2? Somebody applied? He's never been to Italy right?
The directions hearing also revealed a major change in Senator Canavan's argument, with lawyers for the former cabinet minister arguing he had been an an Italian citizen by descent since he was two, because of a change in Italian law in 1983. His lawyers argued that citizenship by descent rather than birth should be ignored for the purposes of section 44(i) of the constitution.
As hilarious as all this is, is anyone seriously on the side of throwing an elected government out over this rule?
As hilarious as all this is, is anyone seriously on the side of throwing an elected government out over this rule?
I feel like the court either has to (1) read down the shit out of this section because it's stupid; or (2) set an example and it'll probably never happen again. I'm not adverse to option (2) because it's short term pain for long term certainty.
The first example invalidated 3 candidates in the same election so your faith in 2 is probably misplaced.
I'm not sure I follow, are you referring to Sykes?
I guess a shouldn't be shocked that people are calling changing the names of places that literally have the fucking n word in them "politically correctness gone mad" but here we are