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Avowed Runs at 30fps on Xbox Series X and S, Obsidian Confirms

"It’s a first-person, single-player game, you don’t necessarily need that 60 frames."

nordic.ign.com

Avowed will run at a "baseline" of 30 frames per second across Xbox Series X and S, developer Obsidian has confirmed.

Speaking on the Iron Lords Podcast, art director Matt Hansen said Obsidian is "targeting a baseline of 30fps" for the first-person fantasy RPG. 60fps sounds unlikely, however, even on the more powerful Xbox Series X.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

PS5 pro it is

 

[thatJohann]

That's fine. It's bound to happen as these consoles are becoming underpowered by now.

 

[Luipadre]

"It's a first-person, single-player game, you don't necessarily need that 60 frames."

 

[Topher]

"It's a first-person, single-player game, you don't necessarily need that 60 frames."

I'm getting IGN 720p vibes here...

 

[Mr Hyde]

It's an artistic choice.

 

[PeteBull]

That's fine. It's bound to happen as these consoles are becoming underpowered by now.

U could even say, its about time to present

 

[Nickolaidas]

Every single fucking time.

New console comes out? "30 fps no more, it's 60-120 fps at 4k from now on!"

And 3 years later, everything other than a fighting/racing game is a literal coin toss on whether it'll hit 50-60 fps at 1080p, or will be 30 fps throughout the way.

And people ask why we want pc versions/ports.

 

[Valedix]

 

[Stafford]

I disagree so much with the dev. Has he not seen the huge difference with Starfield now? It's exactly a first person game that needs 60fps at the least, not 30fps.

At least offer two modes then. 30fps mode where they push all the effects and stuff, and a performance mode with cutbacks in resolution and what not. Goddamn.

 

[StereoVsn]

"It's a first-person, single-player game, you don't necessarily need that 60 frames."

Yep, these excuses are just dumb. If anything, a first person action RPG would greatly benefit from 60fps even vs a TPS game.

Anyways, I haven't seen anything in what they have shown to explain why they can't hit 60fps on XSX.

Another game coming in hot. Remember Starfield "cinematic" approach?

 

[N0S]

You are already dead

 

[T4keD0wN]

Given those visuals its laughable, theres games running at 60 with some basic ray tracing on the consoles, not like 60 was enough good enough for first person games that look like Avowed, but its a massive upgrade over 30.

Looks like they havent learned from Starfield and Redfall.

 

[Robb]

We do lock it at 30, because we want that fidelity, we want all that stuff. We don't want to sacrifice any of it.

 

[Punished Miku]

They're clearly not the masters of optimization. And I don't think anyone believes them anymore on the delay to help our backlog BS. Maybe they'll get a 60 fps mode working post-launch. For a game with that much action combat, it would obviously help.

 

[Portugeezer]

I'm getting IGN 720p vibes here...

If you stand further away from the screen the frames look closer together, therefore the difference between 30fps and 60fps is undetectable.

 

[GHG]

It's fine, VRR fixes this and makes it butter smooth.

 

[Kenneth Haight]

Honestly pathetic

 

[DenchDeckard]

60 FPS or bust!

PC it is but still, these Devs need to understand that 30FPS console games should be a thing of the past. I also dont get how its only 30FPS from looking at the footage.

 

[cireza]

Easy skip. I am never going to play a FPS in 30fps on current TVs.

 

[SenkiDala]

It's an artistic choice.

Well, yes ? Prioritizing VFX over frame rate is exactly this, an artistic choice.

 

[digdug2]

Went from wanting to play this day one to not wanting to play it at all. Optimize your shit and don't throw around stupid excuses.

 

[The Infectious Paradox]

Man, stuff like this is why I moved to PC. No regrets.

 

[digdug2]

Well, yes ? Prioritizing VFX over frame rate is exactly this, an artistic choice.

If the game looked stunning I could understand that... but it looks mid at best. With those graphics, it should easily be hitting 60fps.

 

[Deleted member 848825]

 

[vaibhavpisal]

60 would be waaay nicer.

Its an RPG so you should have a choice to play it like an action game.

 

[Skifi28]

It could have been received better if the visuals were anything to write home about.

 

[Little Chicken]

Fantastic. Slower frames allow you to soak up more of the atmosphere.

 

[owandeseis]

60 FPS or bust!

PC it is but still, these Devs need to understand that 30FPS console games should be a thing of the past. I also dont get how its only 30FPS from looking at the footage.

Looks more like it's a thing of the future with Capcom releasing DD2 and seemingly MH too with no performance mode, same for Kingdoms Come 2, this one or Hellblade 2 recently, or well, Black Myth Wukong, which actually doesn't have a "real" performance mode (and some others that just have a performance mode for the marketing, cause it's rough as hell)

 

[Mephisto40]

In other words, it's going to run like ass on the Series S

 

[Ceadeus]

I might not buy day one anymore. What the hell Obsidian. F*CK!

 

[SJRB]

Imagine being a videogame "journalist" and you have a developer who straight to your face says "you don't really need 60 fps anyway" and you just glance over that and write your fluff piece anyway without even asking that dev when he had the accident that caused this brain damage or if he was always like this.

 

[Frwrd]

 

[GHG]

In other words, it's going to run like ass on the Series S

Remember when they told us the delay was to be considerate of people's backlogs or some nonsense.

 

[Frwrd]

It's an artistic choice.

 

[Bojji]

It's an artistic choice.

The artist:

 

[DenchDeckard]

Imagine being a videogame "journalist" and you have a developer who straight to your face says "you don't really need 60 fps anyway" and you just glance over that and write your fluff piece anyway without even asking that dev when he had the accident that caused this brain damage or if he was always like this.

 

[SmokedMeat]

You don't need 60fps for RPGs though. Just fast moving games like racing and fighting.

 

[SJRB]

You don't need 60fps for RPGs though. Just fast moving games like racing and fighting.

Fortunately there's no combat in RPG's, thank god.

 

[Fermbiz]

I remember when Gears of War was coming out and Cliff Bleszinski excuse for the game not running at 60fps was it has motion blur, so wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

 

[GHG]

You don't need 60fps for RPGs though. Just fast moving games like racing and fighting.

"Gamer™"

 

[Mister Wolf]

Lumen and Nanite. You wanted "next gen". Don't ever say they don't give you what you want. With that being said, I expect a 60fps patch down the line.

 

[GHG]

Lumen and Nanite. You wanted "next gen". Don't ever say they don't give you what you want. With that being said, I expect a 60fps patch down the line.

It uses lumen and nanite but yet somehow still manages to look like shit.

The marketing tech buzzwords mean absolutely nothing if the final outcome doesn't pass the eye test.

 

[Von Hugh]

Fantastic. Slower frames allow you to soak up more of the atmosphere.

How many seconds per frame would be optimal for you?

 

[poppabk]

It's fine, VRR fixes this and makes it butter smooth.

I get the joke but it doesn't really work when they aren't even pushing above 30.

 

[Deleted member 848825]

You don't need 60fps for RPGs though. Just fast moving games like racing and fighting.

Well, it's that mindset that has helped bring us the Xbox we have today.

 

[Skifi28]

Fantastic. Slower frames allow you to soak up more of the atmosphere.

The only thing you soak up is water as you are slowly being boiled.

 

[Ass of Can Whooping]

Fantastic. Slower frames allow you to soak up more of the atmosphere.

While the human eye can only process 30 frames per second, the enhanced sensitivity of a chickens eye means they can process up to 200 frames per second.

 

[cireza]

Lumen and Nanite.

Oh so that's where all the frames have gone. Suddenly it makes more sense.

 

[near]

Imagine being a videogame "journalist" and you have a developer who straight to your face says "you don't really need 60 fps anyway" and you just glance over that and write your fluff piece anyway without even asking that dev when he had the accident that caused this brain damage or if he was always like this.

Not trying defending IGN here but they didn't conduct the interview.

This is the video of the interview that they're writing about, I timestamped it: