Giantbomb too I guess?
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Bloodborne Reviews Thread
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Giantbomb too I guess?
BrokenIcarus
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someone doesnt like the game
Urgh, this guy, what games does he play? Does he say this about every game with violence?
I think Nathan is writing EDGEs review and Rich Stanton is doing Eurogamer. His impressions came out yesterday and he's basically said it's his favourite or second favourite video game ever (behind Dark Souls).
They're waiting to review the online and server component before awarding a score.
This guy?
Ah yes Dan is a weird one..had a huge discussion with him about FoV a long time ago you can plow through my twitter it is there somewhere he thought i was attacking and i wasn't just a healthy discussion but he still didn't understand a low FoV for PC is not good (i get motion sickness and dizzy from it) that's not only me. But i had other encounters with him most of the time he doesn't know what he is talking about. Now i remember he blocked me on twitter dunno what happend back then but i think i was right and he was totally wrong and couldn't handle it.
Anyway he keeps bitching about bloodborne for the past 24 hours? That's...pathetic. At least i can't wait to play it tomorrow!
As I said earlier people just use that word "political" as a way to escape meaningful critique. Here's a thought, Google the definition of politics and then think about how your using the word here, doesn't really work does it?
Omnipunctual Godot
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It hurt my brain to read that.
lol wow
Plus, there's no way all that sodium can be good for the heart.
EatinOlives
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Yeah I was going to point this out as well.
It read like he had played the game and it would've made sense. "I picked this up and I'm aware of the rave reviews, but I'm just feeling like it's more of the same", OK, that's a fair first impression.
Then he said he will play it in the future. Wut. Talking at length about how a game plays without playing the game...
The point is not about the generality or the looseness of the word "politics" but the point here is the "over thinking" aspect. Get it?
autoduelist
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It makes sense. People debate / argue (depending on tone, I suppose) everything... it just seems like people are getting piled on when one side is, as you say, the outlier. One could just as easily point out some people enjoy being the outlier / devil's advocate / odd man out. Besides, you're wrong that 'people can only focus' on the outliers... plenty of people in this very thread were discussing the positive reviews too... it's just that two people agreeing with each other doesn't contain the same fireworks as two people disagreeing so the pile ons are far more obvious.
cm osi
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plasmawave
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He must be one of those video game videos critic.
Michael F. Assbender
Banned
Nevermind him, people, he's a complete nutcase
Wow, what an absolute piece of shit.
BrokenIcarus
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Nevermind him, people, he's a complete nutcase
Wow, not even gonna bother.
RadioHammer500
Banned
i feel like Mcintosh is just at the point of trolling people now
FinalStageBoss
Banned
I wish ya'll would stop quoting that dude's tweets, he's made it obvious that he's a complete dumb ass.
pharmboy044
Member
So is MC not updating the score? It only has 41 reviews but I'm sure there were more than that with scores that were released yesterday.
Hmm, it seems you don't understand what I'm trying to say, you're deflecting a debate instead of engaging when you incorrectly use "political" or when you dismiss it by saying people just "over think" it. As I stated I too believe bloodborne's violence shouldn't be held as a negative, but I made supporting counter arguments instead of just outright dismissing the whole idea.
Puppet Shadow
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Great scores.
Oh, and nice job keeping the OP up to date, LiK.
Oh, and nice job keeping the OP up to date, LiK.
Perhaps y'all can stop searching through a guy's old tweets to find reasons to hate him? If you give him the benefit of the doubt, he was commenting that violence is ubiquitous in games and it's boring that they are the games that get huge critical and press attention. None of this is evil mastermind dirtbag stuff.
Let people have opinions on Twitter without crucifying them for not meeting some standard of consistency in thought you and I do not bother looking for in ourselves. It's not like Twitter is an outlet where we expect thoughtful rhetoric.
There's a difference between a) commenting on his opinion with the work put in to make sure you don't misrepresent it and b) constructing a straw man you can scoff at without seriously considering the perspective.
Let people have opinions on Twitter without crucifying them for not meeting some standard of consistency in thought you and I do not bother looking for in ourselves. It's not like Twitter is an outlet where we expect thoughtful rhetoric.
There's a difference between a) commenting on his opinion with the work put in to make sure you don't misrepresent it and b) constructing a straw man you can scoff at without seriously considering the perspective.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Totalbiscuit/status/580287722524409856
Here's a quote from total biscuit I thought was pure snobbery , sorry I'm on phone
Considering the praise Bloodborne is getting, might be worth trying to soldier through despite 30fps. Did with Dark Souls before the mod.
Here's a quote from total biscuit I thought was pure snobbery , sorry I'm on phone
Considering the praise Bloodborne is getting, might be worth trying to soldier through despite 30fps. Did with Dark Souls before the mod.
While this is not the thread to pile on people's tweets your reasoning seems off, if people didn't want the opinions discussed and critiqued why broadcast them to the whole world?
Omnipunctual Godot
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It's not about "evil mastermind dirtbag stuff" so much as giving people an idea of the character of the person levying criticism here. You may not like the things he said, but he said them in a public forum, and people can look at them and decide if his is an opinion worth listening to.
I agree, but it's a pretty common sentiment among PC-centric gamers concerning Bloodborne. Going from 60FPS to 30 can be a big change, but the visuals of Bloodborne seem stellar.
Traumnovelle
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Sometimes I wonder if he's a Gamergater account used to discredit their opposition. Would be less terrifying than if he was for real.
I get you. You like to have a debate for the sake of debating.
TotalBiscuit acting like a spoilt child? What a twist!
Kssio_Aug
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Besides I've always enjoyed the Souls games (and a lot actually, to become even one of my favorite RPGs ever), I have to agree with that boss statement. When playing Dark Souls 1 I was devastaded by Four Kings, first because I had going into the pit without the ring, and many other tries next just getting kicked by him... the boss is actually quite awesome to be honest, but it was extremely frustrating to run all the way through, since Valley of Drakes, to get beaten like 5, 6, 7 times! For that reason I almost gave up the game... I became like 1 entire month without touching it, then I came back, did it, and kept going till the end. Awesome game, but that almost broke my entire experience!
WrenchNinja
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At least it's not as bad Arthur Gies shitting on Vanquish for being JapaneseThis guy?
BennyBlanco
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Well, he said he wants to play the game. 30 FPS is objectively worse than the 60 fps of DaS and DaS2 so it's understandable.
I don't think every review site pops up on MC.
That's another great example of deflecting an argument!
I don't think the discussion here is in good faith.
People are saying he is critiquing Bloodborne specifically, which he is not. Everyone here agrees that violence in Bloodborne is justified. Nobody has commented on the ubiquity of violence in games or the prevalence of violent games in the press cycle. So we are not discussing his opinion, we are taking a surface view of his opinion as a straw man and railing against it.
But more than that, the thread has been derailed calling him an idiot, lunatic, and "deranged", as well as dredging up his old posts as a way to discredit him and not his opinion.
Fancy Clown
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I liked the Gamespot review a lot. Good stuff in there that goes a bit beyond most of the samey sounding reviews I've read thus far.
MegaSackman
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I've just played two bosses but once you get near to their place you can open up shortcuts.
Yeah but "soldier through" he may as well just call us all peasants and be done with it
eot
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Sometimes I wonder if he's a Gamergater account used to discredit their opposition. Would be less terrifying than if he was for real.
Fucking stop already, okay?
Omnipunctual Godot
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SolidSnakex
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It doesn't seem to be completely final since he mentions that he still needs to play complete the game, play multiplayer and NG+. But he does say that it's the best game he's played since Demon's Souls.
CambriaRising
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Traumnovelle
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Considering he almost exclusively plays on PC and does consider consoles vastly inferior yeah that's exactly what he was thinking lol.
Pretty sure he just bought two Titan Xs if that tells you anything
theSlacker
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The fact that he is 100% serious is why I wish people would stop quoting him and just ignore him altogether. There is nothing to be gained from from his insight or comments regarding anything. Any actual good point he makes has been, and can be, made better by someone else. And I really don't want to be around for any shitstorm when more people realize who he actually is.
Necromanti
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It takes a measly 2 minutes or so to get back to the boss if you're taking shortcuts starting from Firelink Shrine, but I could see it adding up until you get decent at making the run there.
I knew that I could read between the lines
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