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Call of Duty uses AI content, Steam requires disclosure

Digital-Aftertaste

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wolffy66 said:
Get used to it. It's inevitable
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Actually, I don’t necessarily agree.

I think the next 3-4 years we may see a lot of focus on AI tools, but I think what’s going to happen is more and more games will feel homogeneous, which will cause a bit of a crash in the industry. At that point, I think developers will start pledging either that their games don’t use AI in ANY capacity, or pointing out specifically where it is used (for my part, I think AI being used to help bug-testing will be a scenario where everyone is happy using it).

I don’t necessarily think that use of AI will result in any *objective* drop in quality, but peoples *perception* is king here. If people know AI is being used to create content, people will view that content as a lesser effort, regardless of its actual quality.

I think the smartest thing any publisher could do is try to get ahead of this and say when and what AI is being used for. I think it would make sense for promotional/marketing materials, but for actual creative content, I think it’s only a matter of time until people become entirely disinterested in content they even suspect AI had a hand in creating.
 
Jaybe

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Bkdk said:
Should add DEI disclosure too if the developer or publisher has dei statement/dei department or using sweet baby inc as consultation.
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Follow this and at least each game’s store page will a note on it if it’s in the list.

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Lucifers Beard

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Sounds about right, there's a good reason they're able to shit these games out on a yearly basis and it's not only because they have nearly every fucking studio working on them.
 
TintoConCasera

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Angry_Megalodon said:
The problem is that it opens the door to escalation, which MS has already shamelessly announced.

Uncle Phil's pipedream is to have "baristas making videogames".
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Yeah I've seen those shitty games made by AI. I bet many suits are creaming over the idea but I believe actual good videogames made by an AI are still many years away.

I just hope games made by actual people don't ever go away.
 
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Black_Stride

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Jaybe said:
It shows the hypocrisy of you calling someone sick when you’ve clearly got some issues
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What issues?

Point out the hypocracy in my ERA post in relation to this post.

Did you not understand my post on ERA?
 
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MiguelItUp

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Yeah, they definitely use AI on a variety of graphics, and they make it abundantly clear, which is wild. They're not even trying to hide it, lmao. I really wish they wouldn't, I mean, they have fully capable artists.

Jaybe said:
It shows the hypocrisy of you calling someone sick when you’ve clearly got some issues
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Did you even read what you screen capped or process its context? Lmao.

I still don't get why some even bother going to Era if it's a place you "hate", lol. It's a lot better when you just don't pay attention to something if you genuinely don't like it.
 
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HeisenbergFX4

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MiguelItUp said:
Yeah, they definitely use AI on a variety of graphics, and they make it abundantly clear, which is wild. They're not even trying to hide it, lmao. I really wish they wouldn't, I mean, they have fully capable artists.


Did you even read what you screen capped or process its context? Lmao.

I still don't get why some even bother going to Era if it's a place you "hate", lol. It's a lot better when you just don't pay attention to something if you genuinely don't like it.
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I don't get people going to ERA and then referencing things here either unless it would be some sort of actual news
 
MiguelItUp

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HeisenbergFX4 said:
Likely wont change much until their sales plummet

I think the market needs a great alternative and as foolish as I know this is I have hopes the next BF returns to greatness

But I know how that will turn out
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You and I both. Battlefield and COD together were a strong combo back in the day, especially with both IPs focusing on their own different strengths. But as years went on they unfortunately got more and more similar. I miss the days of when Battlefield was the game you'd play to experience all out warfare that included vehicles and chaos. Whereas COD was just more on the ground, infantry experiences. It was fun to go back and forth more so IMO.
 
ByWatterson

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AI will lower costs, create many MANY more game developers, and help produce high-quality visuals (and visual progress) without making the cost of doing so becoming prohibitive.

Meaning?

AI could create a far more creative, risk-tolerant industry. I have no idea why people are upset by this stuff.
 
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MiguelItUp

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ByWatterson said:
AI will lower costs, create many MANY more game developers, and help produce high-quality visuals (and visual progress) without making the cost of doing so becoming prohibitive.

Meaning?

AI could create a far more creative, risk-tolerant industry. I have no idea why people are upset by this stuff.
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People are upset with how it could affect a number of industries and the availability of jobs, which I feel makes sense. Also things that are considered an art form that are best completed by human beings being replaced. Some people are a bit more heavy opinionated about it, which I don't agree with, but I get some of the concerns personally.

I think AI is a great tool that a lot of people are already using to help with workloads. But it's questionable when companies have entire experienced and talented art teams using it. I can understand using it as a blueprint, sure, and then touching it up quite a bit to make it your own. But they straight up threw a zombie with six fingers into the game, lol. It's almost like they didn't even really bother.
 
Hudo

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Using neural networks as a tool in your toolbox to help with tasks is OK. I mean, they also use Z-Brush for modelling instead of writing OBJ's by hand or Photoshop to do textures. Those are also tools. As long as the quality does not suffer, neural networks can (and should) be a tool.
 
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Replacing devs with tools is different than making these devs use the same tools to create bigger content or shorten the development cycles.
 
diffusionx

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Make no mistake, a ton of shit in this game is AI generated. Most of the battle pass, pretty much all the emblems, calling cards, etc. It's all AI. A lot of incidental type stuff you see in the game, like artwork in the maps, is also clearly Ai generated.

Add onto this the ridiculous costs for addons likee $80 for the ninja turtles, and the bad maps, the entire game feels junky and cheap. This just isnt good enough and unless MS changes the way it is developed it is primed for a collapse in audience.

TintoConCasera said:
Yeah I can see AI tools becoming widespread for asset creation and speeding up workflows. Got no problem with that.
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the AI stuff looks like shit. Is it really better to have cheaper, faster output of total garbage? is it really good that it means they can churn out shitty battle passes faster?
 
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TintoConCasera

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diffusionx said:
the AI stuff looks like shit
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I'm not talking about making AI assets and using then as is. I'm talking about speeding up the creation process, because a competent artist could create assets a lot faster by modifying and cleaning up AI generated stuff rather than creating them for scratch.

And it's not just assets, it can help with the code as well.
 
Ribi

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Disgusting, absolutely appalling. How could a studio stoop so low as to use AI to save hundreds of thousands of dollars on labor, increase efficiency, and help individuals workers creating a less stressful environment due to less demanding work? I'm literally shaking. Also fuck the anti AI crowd you just see the word AI and start Pearl clutching thinking about child labor in the mines.

Now if you're strictly using only AI to generate assets don't be a lazy ass, and actually have someone check the damn thing.
 
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diffusionx

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TintoConCasera said:
I'm not talking about making AI assets and using then as is. I'm talking about speeding up the creation process, because a competent artist could create assets a lot faster by modifying and cleaning up AI generated stuff rather than creating them for scratch.

And it's not just assets, it can help with the code as well.
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Well, clearly they're not doing that, and broadly speaking, it doesn't appear to be how people use AI. They let AI take over their thinking.

Like look at what teachers are saying, students aren't using "AI in their research", they're just telling AI to generate papers and then putting their name on it. It would be useful to use AI as a sort of first draft that you clean up later, whether it is code or art, but that's not what is happening.
 
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MiguelItUp

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TintoConCasera said:
I'm not talking about making AI assets and using then as is. I'm talking about speeding up the creation process, because a competent artist could create assets a lot faster by modifying and cleaning up AI generated stuff rather than creating them for scratch.

And it's not just assets, it can help with the code as well.
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Yeah, that's the thing. Some people see AI and immediately jump ship, but people are already using it for code, and "behind the curtain" tasks. I feel like that's where it really shines. I could see it helping with concept art and references. But it should never, ever be the final product. Some of the art in COD looks like they just AI'd it, and maybe did few minor effects. Feels weird when there's a talented and capable team. Especially when you know how much money they make, lol.

Hell, a good buddy of mine is a tattoo artist and talks about using AI to generate customer ideas. Because not every customer is an artist or has a creative mindset. So he can combine his own art with AI to have things to show customers, and go from there. He said it's really helpful when he's really busy and crunched on time. I mean, he's still drawing majority of it out and everything, especially the final product. But it clearly helps put pieces together.
 
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TintoConCasera

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Well, clearly they're not doing that, and broadly speaking, it doesn't appear to be how people use AI. They let AI take over their thinking.

Like look at what teachers are saying, students aren't using "AI in their research", they're just telling AI to generate papers and then putting their name on it. It would be useful to use AI as a sort of first draft that you clean up later, whether it is code or art, but that's not what is happening.
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That's a lot of assumptions. The fact is that it can be used to speed up the creation of quality code and assets, and imo anything else is cope.
 
diffusionx

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TintoConCasera said:
That's a lot of assumptions. The fact is that it can be used to speed up the creation of quality code and assets, and imo anything else is cope.
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No, it's not an assumption, it's what is happening. Look at six fingered Santa zombie in this thread. TIme to face reality.
 
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TintoConCasera

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diffusionx said:
No, it's not an assumption, it's what is happening. Look at six fingered Santa zombie in this thread. TIme to face reality.
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The incompetence of a few doesn't mean that it's happening everywhere dude.

A friend of mine is making a game, using AI to generate character portraits and then tracing over them with his own style. The end result is perfectly fine, and he saved a ton of time.

Anyone could do the same.
 
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diffusionx

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TintoConCasera said:
The incompetence of a few doesn't mean that it's happening everywhere dude.
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This is the real cope

Do I think that the artists working on COD wanted to release that shitter Santa? No. But the company says "it's fine, ship it". That's what happens. The trend is towards this. AI is used to churn out cheap junky assets and the standard is very low and the pressure is to release more faster. It's just blatantly obvious and there are blatant examples in this thread.
 
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If AI is used as a support tool to Help create assets, tests and the like I'm cool with it.
If the the entire campaign of a Game ist generated, Story and all that would be to much.
 
TintoConCasera

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diffusionx said:
This is the real cope

Do I think that the artists working on COD wanted to release that shitter Santa? No. But the company says "it's fine, ship it". That's what happens. The trend is towards this. AI is used to churn out cheap junky assets and the standard is very low and the pressure is to release more faster. It's just blatantly obvious and there are blatant examples in this thread.
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That's the company's fault tho. AI is just a tool, if someone decides to churn out some ugly shit that's on them, but don't blame the tool.
 
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