Civilization VII | Review Thread

Cyberpunkd said:
So it seems like every Civ release ever - previous version + DLC has a lot more content than the version they want you to pay full price for.
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Well, since Civ 5 at least. I don't remember feeling that way about Civ 3 or 4.

I wonder if they can fix this game with patches and DLC though. Sounds fundamentally wack.
 
It's sad, but Civ has went from easy day one purchase, to being treated like an Ubi title. Never buy day one, buy down the line when sales that include DLC make it a worthy purchase.
 
jonnyp said:
Not surprised. Civ V was an absolute mess at launch, but became excellent after several expansions, namely from the Gods and Kings expansion. Civ 6 is just boring and ugly and they never managed to fix that. Beyond Earth was awful.

Not surprised by these scores.
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With the new DLCs, Civ 6 is now good fun.
And for graphics, you can use the mod "Environment Skin: Sid Meier's Civilization V". It's in the Steam Workshop and it's as easy to install as clicking a button.
 
I'm not liking how civilization has been going since 5. 4 was great out of the jump and only got better, 5, Beyond Earth, 6 got worse with the "release borderline unfinished, refine through DLC approach" and as always, I'll wait a year for patches and an expansion pack for less than half price before I pick it up.
 
I liked Civ 5 on launch but it felt very neutered compared to Civ 4. I miss fun mechanics like culture bombs and doom stacks.
 
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Never met a Civ game I didn't like, so I'm sure I'll give this one a shot too.
 
I'll wait until some expansions have been released - and until then, I'll continue to enjoy CIV V on my Steam Deck...
 
Dacvak said:
Never met a Civ game I didn't like, so I'm sure I'll give this one a shot too.
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Idk, but VI is hot garbage - its the, by far, least played entry in the series for me and I started with CIV on the Amiga...

I even played CIV: Revolution on the 360 more often than VI...
 
I dont like untying the leaders from the civilisation, just seems like a cop out from having to making fun and unique leaders. Benjamin Franklin, leader of Greece is just goofy.
 
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jonnyp said:
Not surprised. Civ V was an absolute mess at launch, but became excellent after several expansions, namely from the Gods and Kings expansion. Civ 6 is just boring and ugly and they never managed to fix that. Beyond Earth was awful.

Not surprised by these scores.
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Beyond earth was dope as fuck
 
I'll wait for the "complete" version in a few years. Been burned 2 times by Civ V and VI with incomplete games, this will be my first Civ game that I don't purchase at launch.
 
All of the major changes they talked about -- the new-age "refresh", decoupling leaders from their historical homelands -- sounded retarded as fuck, so I'm not surprised to see these scores. Talk about unforced error, geez.
 
Donald mac Ronald said:
Civ 5 was barebones and shit on launch. So was 6.
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Civ 5, while being visually modest and sparse, was actually very sound mechanically. Gameplay-wise it's probably still the most robust and balanced Civ around where every age is equally engaging and fun. There is a reason while it is stil played by 20k people on Steam daily.

Civ 6 are were the problems started. It was bloated (the districts were nice idea on paper but quickly became a headache), AI is still moronic warmonger, whole idea behind nations and aspirations is still undercooked and they basically dropped any further support and refinements quite early, neither of 2 big DLCs adressed the tedious late game and glaring issue with AI and national aspirations. Instead of fixing the game they've chose to drown it with Pradox-style micro-DLCs and sell you 'Leader's Pass'. Civ 6 is by far my least played Civ and I'm with the series since Civ 1 on dad's Intel DX4 (or something i486) AST notebook.

But with 6 there were some goodwill left so review-wise it was treated like 'Maybe they'll fix it down the road'. Good to see that the same trick didn't work out for them in Civ VII. Series is in a deep identity crisis and instead of shaking up the core (like silly idea with changeble nations) and making things even more cumbersome via UI, they need to return to simple (tabletop even) roots of Civ 5 and Civ 3. And ffs, maybe finally update the engine, especially after Ara shown what could be done with the genre visually.
 
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winjer said:
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Surely London should be "TBC - when Britain DLC launches at £24.99 in Q4 2025"

Given they are pushing the "3 Ages" mechanic, it seems utterly daft that you cannot play as, say, Rome, then Britain, then the US on launch. Good for France I guess!

Ditching the ability to play as the ghastly British Empire only to get a 40 from Eurogamer (who should presumably love that idea) surely has to go down as an own goal?
 
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Guess I will just stick with Civ 6. Civilization 7 just doesn't seem appealing but will see how expansions change things down the road.

Perhaps I will buy Romance of the Three Kingdoms 8 remake instead.
 
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Someone at Firaxis really needs to play this thing on a console for a couple of days so they can be aware how badly, bugs aside, things are implemented.

That said my only problem with this game is that I didn't finished enough games before it landed. I've been joking here on GAF how after February my 2025 is a black hole swallowed by Civ but this isn't a joke anymore. Everytime I'm not with my gf I'm seeing the sunrise. And I'm only on my second (complete) run. That the end game does a crash to desktop every two turns doesn't help. But at least the game loads crazy fast in PS5. Like… crazy crazy fast. I wonder if they could implement something like that on the loading of a save file, which isn't as fast.

Anyways I'm going to spend some time out of my home and now I really really understand the value of a PSPortal.
 
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Kenneth Haight said:
It is an absolute necessity for playing civ in bed like a king 😂
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I've bought it for PS5 instead of PC because I have VI in both PC and iOS. Steam says that I've played a few hours and thank fuck the iPad doesn't show a timer for that because it'd be embarrassing. And that's how I discovered that I care more about comfy gaming than pin mods.
 
Well I'd say Civ 7 is fine.

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Add on about 5 hours for today to that, and I didn't play the early access. Although I probably dodged a bullet because those first few patches seem to have helped a lot.
 
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ToadMan said:
Well I'd say Civ 7 is fine.

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Add on about 5 hours for today to that, and I didn't play the early access. Although I probably dodged a bullet because those first few patches seem to have helped a lot.
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I don't know. In consoles there is still no patch and the dumb IA signing peace treaties conceding a 28 pop. city with 8 wonders and all the good infrastructure mitigated a little the difficulty.
 
Radical_3d said:
I don't know. In consoles there is still no patch and the dumb IA signing peace treaties conceding a 28 pop. city with 8 wonders and all the good infrastructure mitigated a little the difficulty.
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Yeah I heard the console version isn't great which is a shame because this is a good cross save game.

I used to do that a little bit with Civ 6 and Switch but I think PS5 / Portal and PC would be quite a good combo for this. But those crashes need to be fixed.

Yeah the AI remains deficient, seems like par for the course at launch though. 🤷‍♂️
 
ToadMan said:
Yeah I heard the console version isn't great which is a shame because this is a good cross save game.

I used to do that a little bit with Civ 6 and Switch but I think PS5 / Portal and PC would be quite a good combo for this. But those crashes need to be fixed.

Yeah the AI remains deficient, seems like par for the course at launch though. 🤷‍♂️
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Well in console we don't have the 1.0.1 patch that fixes a lot of things. Which makes the game… "interesting". You loose all that you've invested in city states, but in the other hand the IA is such a push over in negotiations… I've read that the PC 1.0.1 doesn't fixes the crashes in the late game so it's a matter of waiting.

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Radical_3d said:
Well in console we don't have the 1.0.1 patch that fixes a lot of things. Which makes the game… "interesting". You loose all that you've invested in city states, but in the other hand the IA is such a push over in negotiations… I've read that the PC 1.0.1 doesn't fixes the crashes in the late game so it's a matter of waiting.

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I think there was a discord post stating the console patch and sync with PC would be this coming week.

Hopefully that fixes things going forward.
 
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