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Console games being ported to PC is good for everyone
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ShadyAcshuns
Member
None that are a mix of weight and battery life, none other that have physical media.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
All it takes is a change in leadership. Nintendo would be very successful on PC since they focus on gameplay above graphics.
Alex Anderson
Member
Put MLB The Show on PC already!
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
It doesnt defeat the purpose because not every gamer out there cares about playing games on PC due to a number of factors including price, tying up the PC/laptop instead of using it for something else, dont want to mess with any software/hardware issues etc.... Not every PC gamer even has a good rig. I bought a new gaming laptop a year and a half ago so I'm good, but before that I couldnt even play any modern game because it coudnt even hit min specs!
The key reason why people get mad is because they are loyal to video game plastic box wars.
I've never seen one person ever get mad that their TV, DVD/BR player, iPod/iPhone/Android device, stereo etc.... can all play the same media. It doesn't matter if someone bought a noname brand DVD player or a pricey Panasonic one. Nobody cares if everyone can watch the same movies or listen to the same music on any device that does audio.
But gamers clutch their game box like it's gold. And it's funny because it's not like a console or handheld Nintendo device even cost a lot. Compared to PC, they are dirt cheap. I can understand a a luxury car buyer expecting some unique quality performance. If they are going to spend $100k+ on a car, you should expect something good. But console gamers are like people buying Honda Civics for $25k and expecting entitlement like a snobby Ferrari owner.
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deeptech
Member
Dark Souls, Elden Ring, Sekiro, GTA, Need For Speed, Tomb Raider, Resident Evil, Witcher...... WHAT THE FUCK?
Some of the best games ever were not exclusives at all. And yet you still have PS4 only or Xbox only games that suck.
This whole thing needs not be mentioned, it simply exists because of the mentally ill, existentially insecure manchildren needing brands to hold on to.
And no, multiplatforms don't devalue consoles, they can still be favored by someone who just wants to plug and play, no hassle, no intelligence needed.
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DryvBy
Gold Member
Actually, exclusives are the best option you have to get super quality gaming that's polished. They make these games to sell systems and hardware. We only have Crysis because nVidia wanted to sell hardware. Sony quality games (ignore Concord) are because they sell consoles.
Porting years later? Who cares.
Porting years later? Who cares.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Jfc, :cringe
Killer8
Member
It's subtle but visible in Youtube videos. The higher framerate reduces the maximum height Crash can reach and also increases the speed that he falls, as if he's wearing lead boots. You can see this in how quickly he falls after bouncing on a box.
PC at 60fps:
PS4 at 30fps:
PC at 60 is about 10% faster if you count the frames. It might not seem significant but it's enough to cause serious issues later in the game when more challenging levels are introduced. Less time in the air means less control over Crash.
I'm surprised (but also not surprised) that the hacks at Digital Foundry failed to pick up on this issue in their review. I'd also guess that a lot of the player complaints about how bad the game feels are coming from players thinking "60fps 60fps 60fps = better" and yet are struggling with the consequences of that. The original games were designed around 30fps and seemingly so was the remake's Alchemy engine.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
Don't give me that preservation song and dance. Do you have any idea how many older PC games just flat-out don't work on modern machines or have compatibility issues with various GPUs and whatnot at random points in time? It's a lot. Yes, plenty of old games still work just fine, but it's still kind of a crapshoot at times.
I like exclusives because it makes a given platform feel unique. It's fun to go back and play the SNES or DS or whatever because the software lineup makes doing so a unique experience - they're not just generic shitboxes. You port every game to every platform, and all of sudden, none of the platforms are special and that's kind of boring. I realize that this means that some people wouldn't be able to play some of the games they want to, but I don't care. Altruism is overrated. If it matters to you, you'll find a way.
I like exclusives because it makes a given platform feel unique. It's fun to go back and play the SNES or DS or whatever because the software lineup makes doing so a unique experience - they're not just generic shitboxes. You port every game to every platform, and all of sudden, none of the platforms are special and that's kind of boring. I realize that this means that some people wouldn't be able to play some of the games they want to, but I don't care. Altruism is overrated. If it matters to you, you'll find a way.
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Holammer
Member
No, that's fud. I played it to completion twice. But you do have to drop the framerate for the Yeti boxing and on Alpine Ridge where a door won't open.
Movement physics break when you go above 120fps, so slap on Lossless Scaling x2 for buttery smooth 240 frame'eronies.
edit: (oops read that as Spyro, it's 02:50) ;P
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Generic
Member
Nearly every console game is multiplatform nowaday. The PS3/X360 era is long gone.
Dice
Pokémon Parentage Conspiracy Theorist
I think it depends on the mindsets that developers have. I am a HUGE Capcom fan, I buy nearly everything they release, even double dip on several things. However, my love is not blind and I have to acknowledge that Dragon’s Dogma 2 and MH Wilds are running like absolute dogshit. They appear to be taking on the mindset some devs are showing of building it for PC poorly optimized and letting frame gen try to fill in the rest (NOT how frame gen works) and consoles? Fuck em. 30fps. Oh, you want more? You’ll have to run at some of the lowest quality 1080p you’ve seen in decades and still only get 60fps 1/3 of the time.
So yeah, if that is going to be the way it goes with a lot of devs. PC releases are not actually such a great thing. However, if the industry trend has more self-discipline than that and release stuff like this FF Rebirth release, then it should be a good thing.
So yeah, if that is going to be the way it goes with a lot of devs. PC releases are not actually such a great thing. However, if the industry trend has more self-discipline than that and release stuff like this FF Rebirth release, then it should be a good thing.
TheDarkPhantom
Member
Cool story 
Cool story
I can't put into words how absolutely insane the average Icon Era user is.
TheDarkPhantom
Member
wowbaggerBR
Member
As long as they are ported half a decade later, yeah, who cares.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
SweetTooth
Banned
Surprisingly or unsurprisingly not a single mention of Nintendo 
Cakeboxer
Gold Member
Please change the headline to "Console games being ported to PC is good for mentally stable people".
I think you are confusing this with the Series S hatetrain, i haven't seen pc players say that and it's a stupid thing to say anyways. Without the console sales some games wouldn't exist or in worse quality.
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daninthemix
Member
Wait - that fucking guy? The guy who when he was on this forum spent his entire life attached to papa Sony's dried up old tit waiting for any milk to emerge?Their source is literally this "trust me bro"
Cakeboxer
Gold Member
Wait, he was here? Let me guess, he got banned? When looking at that place i just thought some of those guys would even get banned on NeoGAF and console warriors already have a good and safe life here.
Felessan
Member
I want Sony to make as much money as possible, to continue create a great games. Even if some platforms will be omitted, delayed or have inferior quality to maximize gains. I can buy every platform in the end.
I don't really care about this "I care about myself and right now, and fuck the future even if it looks like a scorched ground"
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That kills all innovation in hardware
Monad
Member
That's the sad part here, most folks don't love games, they just worship companies and their plastic boxes.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
Who has ever said this? If you are going to attribute something to a whole class of people it at least needs to be something that is commonly done.
Gaming is a business, PC gamers who have a fucking clue get this. Having games on multiple platforms means more games make enough to be considered successful and that means more of those games or games from those developers get made. Sony is selling less consoles than last gen and Xbox is imploding. The console market is shrinking. Some of that is due to PC but a lot is due to kids preferring shitty mobile games. Keeping good, single-player games profitable is important. Keeping restrictive hardware profitable is not as important.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
I am talking about platform holder exclusives. Not 3rd party
bitbydeath
Member
Unless you’re sailing the seven seas that isn’t how it works for movies.
TrebleShot
Member
You are of course 100% correct, only an idiot would disagree.
It could be helped if console ports had an unlocked mode where it would remove FPS caps and DRS settings.
It could be helped if console ports had an unlocked mode where it would remove FPS caps and DRS settings.
64gigabyteram
Reverse groomer.
platforms being unique died with the xbox 360 & HD gaming. exclusives or not, youll never see that level of platform differentation again
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Spiral1407
Member
It does because what reason is there to even own a console anymore these days?
Price to performance? Maybe, but that advantage has significantly weakened over time. Back on 360/PS3, an equivalent PC with their hardware and feature set would set you back double. Now a lot of those features are gone and you can build a PS5 equivalent PC within ~$100 of a PS5. They even INCREASED PS5 pricing in some regions for fucks sake.
Plug and play? That died last gen with mandatory installs and frequent updates/patches.
Exclusives? We already know what's happening to those...
The difference between video games hardware and the other devices you mentioned is that they inherently rely on evolving hardware to even function. I can watch the latest blockbusters on my 90s CRT if I really wanted to (and I have), but popping a PS5 game into a PS2 would just result in a RSOD. People who complain about PC hardware/driver issues are also ignoring the fact that console games are just as broken these days. The only difference is that PC gives you a chance of fixing your problem. And the fact that you bought a shitty gaming laptop is irrelevant. Everyone knows they are a scam.
Well aware
MMaRsu
Member
How does it defeat the purpose?
The reason for owning a console is usually because people either think pc gaming is too much effort, or too costly, or they think you have to sit at a desk to enjoy pc gaming (when you can just hook it up to your tv).
They just want to insert the disc and go. That is the main reason for owning a console over a pc.
Lunarorbit
Member
Oh ya. More cheaters on cross play.
Fuck your PC master race. Why you wanna slum it with us console slobs anyway? I thought yall got 1000s of games a year
Fuck your PC master race. Why you wanna slum it with us console slobs anyway? I thought yall got 1000s of games a year
There's decades of this (why is PC not getting games that really push the PC blah blah) and most of it centers on how consoles hold everything back.
Even though in reality - it's the PC that holds itself back 99% of the time because the high-end is a market that makes about as much money as VR did in 2016.
HogIsland
Member
Eh. The high end is like a middle aged person with money buying a Gibson guitar when they barely started learning to play. The xx90 series is for making games, and some FOMO-obsessed people only buy them to play games.
That said, the hardware standard set by a console at launch is overcome on PC within 18 months. My 2022 laptop with a 3060 inside easily outperforms the PS5. The target moves quick.
At least you know why those things are different.
Nothing happened, really, gamers just became determined to beat games non-stop and got brain fatigue.
Spiral1407
Member
The problem is that none of those things are really true anymore. Price to performance has diminished significantly since the 7th gen and discs require mandatory installs + patches to make them playable
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Fucking Bryank is the source?Their source is literally this "trust me bro"
Mibu no ookami
Demoted Member® Pro™
The only people upset by Sony putting their games on PC are fanboys.
Everyone realizes that this is a good thing. Games are expensive to make, if we want to keep getting the games we want, companies need to make money. I lose NOTHING by sony putting their games on PC.
But then again, I wouldn't mind if they put them on xbox or switch either. I guess I'm an outlier in that, but if you were to tell me that we'd have a Legend of Dragoon 2 if it was on other platforms, I'd take that in a heartbeat.
Everyone realizes that this is a good thing. Games are expensive to make, if we want to keep getting the games we want, companies need to make money. I lose NOTHING by sony putting their games on PC.
But then again, I wouldn't mind if they put them on xbox or switch either. I guess I'm an outlier in that, but if you were to tell me that we'd have a Legend of Dragoon 2 if it was on other platforms, I'd take that in a heartbeat.
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