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[MMaRsu]

You don't understand the reasons why everybody is buying a ps5 instead of XBOX

Because general perception is they have no interesting exclusives

"Everybody" casual folks know play on PS5, so they will too.

Xbox brand has gone down the drain since the Xbox Drm fiasco and never recovered.

There are no other reasons for the general public. I bet casual dont even know all Xbox games are available on pc. Casuals do not pay attention to PC.

 

[HogIsland]

I don’t mind Sony porting all their games to PC as long as the ports are shit.

it doesn't make pc look bad, it makes playstation look bad

 

[Pandawan]

Because general perception is they have no interesting exclusives

"Everybody" casual folks know play on PS5, so they will too.

Xbox brand has gone down the drain since the Xbox Drm fiasco and never recovered.

There are no other reasons for the general public. I bet casual dont even know all Xbox games are available on pc. Casuals do not pay attention to PC.

Xbox Drm fiasco isn't as big a deal as you think. 10 years ago it was. Not anymore. It's like you're obsessed with this rather insignificant thing that barely matters now.

Okay. You genuinely believe that people don't know or care about exclusives. You can believe whatever you want, but I also believe that's not true. Absolutely not.

The lack of exclusives now is a much bigger reason than some one failure that happened 12 years ago.

The lack of exclusives, the heavy emphasis on Game Pass, which is also on PC, and just plain bad quality of Microsoft games (like Redfall, Halo Infinite or Starfield) have led to the downfall of the XBOX.

Definitely not some drama that happened more than 10 years ago.

 

[Markio128]

it doesn't make pc look bad, it makes playstation look bad

It only makes PlayStation look bad to PC gamers. I can live with that.

 

[MMaRsu]

Xbox Drm fiasco isn't as big a deal as you think. 10 years ago it was. Not anymore. It's like you're obsessed with this rather insignificant thing that barely matters now.

Okay. You genuinely believe that people don't know or care about exclusives. You can believe whatever you want, but I also believe that's not true. Absolutely not.

The lack of exclusives now is a much bigger reason than some one failure that happened 12 years ago.

The lack of exclusives, the heavy emphasis on Game Pass, which is also on PC, and just plain bad quality of Microsoft games (like Halo Infinite or Starfield) have led to the downfall of the XBOX.

Definitely not some drama that happened more than 10 years ago.

Lol im not obsessed Im telling you that is the point where Xbox went completely down the drain.

Because of that, many millions more bought a PS4 over an Xbox One, cementing their digital libraries and friend lists in the process.

That had huge effect on this generation, where off the bat interest in Xbox was strongly diminished.

Them not having any interesting exclusives in this generation just cemented its downfall. And during last generation also. Ofcourse that has a lot to do with it. But PlayStation and Xbox has thrived off third party exclusives in the past. And Xbox didnt even have that.

You're pretending this generation is whats caused the downfall when Xbox has been on the downfall for a lot longer than that.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Here's why I disagree.

You live in a flower world of hippies where, apparently in your mind, I care about shit. I only care about what I bought. I bought a console. You horning in on my exclusive shit devalues my console.

So I hates it. I'll actively punish the console creator by no longer looking at their content through rose colored glasses. I'm sure they could stand the weakness that is hippie hate all these years but wait till they hear from me. I'm just not to the point yet. Day and date, then Sony is going to hear my true thoughts on the subject and they aren't pretty.

Here's what I can promise. Sony is making a mistake. It was a decision made when they thought all their games were gonna be gaas. It makes sense for those games because I hate those games and don't care. It doesn't make sense for the games I do care about for two reasons. 1, and this by far the most important, you do not want to lose me as a fan. 2, your PC hobbiest will never buy your big budget games to any significant extent. They hate you, they hate your games, and outside of GAAS they will all sale pretty poorly at full price. Most PC gamers don't buy or play new games at full retail price. So good luck PC bros, we are taking them back. Sony, come on, we are taking them back. They don't want them. Bring em back.

 

[ArtHands]

it doesn't make pc look bad, it makes playstation look bad

Their reputation has certainly been reassessed by the general public, now that the PC has a taste of what Playstation fans has been hyping over.

 

[FoxMcChief]

While I mentally can’t be a PC gamer anymore because of my mental issues, I will always consider myself a PC gamer first. I remember the pride I had for myself when I built my first PC. I just can’t mentally get around never having the best. Like, if I can’t have the best, I get depressed and can’t enjoy games anymore. That’s a “me” issue though. The best thing I could do for my back account and stress, was move on to consoles.

That all said, everything should go to PC. Nintendo included. It will only benefit everyone.

 

[evanft]

Here's why I disagree.

You live in a flower world of hippies where, apparently in your mind, I care about shit. I only care about what I bought. I bought a console. You horning in on my exclusive shit devalues my console.

So I hates it. I'll actively punish the console creator by no longer looking at their content through rose colored glasses. I'm sure they could stand the weakness that is hippie hate all these years but wait till they hear from me. I'm just not to the point yet. Day and date, then Sony is going to hear my true thoughts on the subject and they aren't pretty.

Here's what I can promise. Sony is making a mistake. It was a decision made when they thought all their games were gonna be gaas. It makes sense for those games because I hate those games and don't care. It doesn't make sense for the games I do care about for two reasons. 1, and this by far the most important, you do not want to lose me as a fan. 2, your PC hobbiest will never buy your big budget games to any significant extent. They hate you, they hate your games, and outside of GAAS they will all sale pretty poorly at full price. Most PC gamers don't buy or play new games at full retail price. So good luck PC bros, we are taking them back. Sony, come on, we are taking them back. They don't want them. Bring em back.

Oh god I need to post it again:

 

[ArtHands]

It’s been years since Sony releases their games on PC. I feel like Playstation console fans should have accept that there’s no going back by now.

 

[Pandawan]

Them not having any interesting exclusives in this generation just cemented its downfall. And during last generation also. Ofcourse that has a lot to do with it. But PlayStation and Xbox has thrived off third party exclusives in the past. And Xbox didnt even have that.

You're pretending this generation is whats caused the downfall when Xbox has been on the downfall for a lot longer than that.

Microsoft started to port most of their games to PC almost from the beggining of XBOX One. This started the downfall, whitch was getting worse over the years, while more games started to be ported to PC and more and more games coming day one on Game Pass.

You pretend like you know a lot about gaming idustry but you seems to not know even that:

Ryse: Son of Rome
Xbox One
WW: November 22, 2013
Windows
WW: October 10, 2014

D4: Dark Dreams Don't Die

Xbox One
19 September 2014
Microsoft Windows
5 June 2015

Ori and the Blind Forest
Windows, Xbox One
March 11, 2015

Forza Motorsport 6
Xbox One
NA/AU: September 15, 2015
EU: September 18, 2015
Windows
WW: September 6, 2016

ETC.

More than a decade ago XBOX literally did the same thing as Playstation is doing today. More than a decade ago Microsoft started to port their games on PC WITH ONE YEAR GAP.

As time went on (and more and more people chose PC over XBOX) Microsoft got rid of this one year gap between XBOX and PC releases. Which even worsen the XBOX's position.

And this conversation started from that i predicted the same will happen to Playstation if they continue down this path. All i sayed is factual, logical and is based on the experience. And you still is trying to convince me this didn't matter, XBOX is dead because of some drm bullshit.


I'm really tired of explaining basic stuff to someone who is probably trolling me because I can't imagine someone being so ignorant and yet so aggressively persistent.

I'll try one last time:

XBOX's decline started when they started porting their exclusives, which started a long time ago (almost from the beggining of XBOX ONE more than a decade ago) and was only gaining momentum with more and more ports to PC, just like XBOX's decline has been gaining momentum ever since and is now at its worst.

XBOX's downfall started with the first ports, then there were more and more ports on PC, the decline intensified, then they got rid of one year gap between XBOX and PC releases and XBOX's downfall intensified, then GamePass came along with day one releases and hurt XBOX even more. Then Redfall and Starfield came along with terrible quality.

And as a result of more than a decade of ALL THESE FAILED POLICIES COMBINED, XBOX is where it is now.

XBOX's DRM thing played its role, but it was a minor one. XBOX drm thing may have hurt XBOX ONE's initial sales a little bit in the beginning, but it certainly wasn't that big of a deal as you say, like it's still killing XBOX to this day. The downfall of XBOX is much more complex, longer, and bigger than any one DRM drama.

 

[MMaRsu]

Allright bud im trolling you forget it

Ive spent watching the industry over 38 years, im pretty sure porting games to pc isnt what led to Xbox downfall but we can agree to disagree. Ive seen this forums reaction to all these things, and the reaction from general audiences.

The Xbox Drm was such a huge impact and failure that led on through the ps4 generation and subsequently people are invested in that platform with their digital libraries etc and are not likely to switch to Xbox even if they do have a good exclusive every now and then.

Them porting games to pc really doesnt have anything to do with it, as even those games were not hits.

More and more you seem to sound like a PlayStation gamer who is mad that "his" exclusives are getting portes to pc, and feels like that poses some sort of danger to Sony.

People choosing Pc Over Xbox has zero to do with their games coming out on PC. Its because PC offers a vast range of benefits compared to console gaming, not because there's a few measly interesting Xbox titles available on the platform. None of those Xbox titles you posted lit the charts on fire, not on Xbox and not on PC.

Dont be mad now kid, its the truth. And yes Xbox downfall began with their DRM fiasco. But I guess you're maybe not old enough to even have witnessed what huge impact that had on general perception of Xbox.

 

[Topher]

Microsoft started to port most of their games to PC almost from the beggining of XBOX One. This started the downfall, whitch was getting worse over the years, while more games started to be ported to PC and more and more games coming day one on Game Pass.

You pretend like you know a lot about gaming idustry but you seems to not know even that:

Ryse: Son of Rome
Xbox One
WW: November 22, 2013
Windows
WW: October 10, 2014

D4: Dark Dreams Don't Die

Xbox One
19 September 2014
Microsoft Windows
5 June 2015

Ori and the Blind Forest
Windows, Xbox One
March 11, 2015

Forza Motorsport 6
Xbox One
NA/AU: September 15, 2015
EU: September 18, 2015
Windows
WW: September 6, 2016

ETC.

More than a decade ago XBOX literally did the same thing as Playstation is doing today. More than a decade ago Microsoft started to port their games on PC WITH ONE YEAR GAP.

As time went on (and more and more people chose PC over XBOX) Microsoft got rid of this one year gap between XBOX and PC releases. Which even worsen the XBOX's position.

And this conversation started from that i predicted the same will happen to Playstation if they continue down this path. All i sayed is factual, logical and is based on the experience. And you still is trying to convince me this didn't matter, XBOX is dead because of some drm bullshit.


I'm really tired of explaining basic stuff to someone who is probably trolling me because I can't imagine someone being so ignorant and yet so aggressively persistent.

I'll try one last time:

XBOX's decline started when they started porting their exclusives, which started a long time ago (almost from the beggining of XBOX ONE more than a decade ago) and was only gaining momentum with more and more ports to PC, just like XBOX's decline has been gaining momentum ever since and is now at its worst.

XBOX's downfall started with the first ports, then there were more and more ports on PC, the decline intensified, then they got rid of one year gap between XBOX and PC releases and XBOX's downfall intensified, then GamePass came along with day one releases and hurt XBOX even more. Then Redfall and Starfield came along with terrible quality.

And as a result of more than a decade of ALL THESE FAILED POLICIES COMBINED, XBOX is where it is now.

XBOX's DRM thing played its role, but it was a minor one. XBOX drm thing may have hurt XBOX ONE's initial sales a little bit in the beginning, but it certainly wasn't that big of a deal as you say, like it's still killing XBOX to this day. The downfall of XBOX is much more complex, longer, and bigger than any one DRM drama.

Microsoft's Play Anywhere initiative is when they began porting every first party games to PC day one and that wasn't announced until 2016. This was after sales of Xbox One had gotten so low that Phil Spencer announced they would no longer report numbers so Xbox to ports came after the fact. Xbox One's issues started day one with being overpriced due to Kinect and underpowered compared to PS4.

This is not "literally did the same thing as Playstation is doing today". Simply a false statement.

 

[Pandawan]

Microsoft's Play Anywhere initiative is when they began porting every first party games to PC day one and that wasn't announced until 2016. This was after sales of Xbox One had gotten so low that Phil Spencer announced they would no longer report numbers so Xbox to ports came after the fact. Xbox One's issues started day one with being overpriced due to Kinect and underpowered compared to PS4.

This is not "literally did the same thing as Playstation is doing today". Simply a false statement.

It is absolutely not a false statement. You frame it this way and you didn't even read the part where i already proved my point.
I ve seen it, i was there and i saw how early Playstation 4's exclusives stayed on PS4, and XBOX One's exclusives since the first years started to beign ported to PC.

They started porting the games that was exclusive to their platform with f-ing XBOX ONE'S launch titles!
Dead Rising 3 and Ryse Sons of Rome was ported to PC in 2014!

Dead Rising 3, Ryse, D4, Ori, Forza Motorsoprt 6 was the period when Microsoft literally did the same thing as Playstation is doing today - during this period Microsoft did some ports here and there with one year gap from XBOX's release to PC's.
Also Sunset Overdrive's case is similar to for example Ghost of Tsushima's case - both of this games were ported to PC 4 years after release. The same thing with Halo Master Chief Collection (stayed as XBOX One exclusive for 5 years from 2014 to 2019) and for example The Last of Us Part 2 (stayed as PlayStation exclusive for 5 years from 2020 to 2025)

XBOX One in the first years of its release lost to PC: Dead Rising 3, Ryse, D4, Ori, Forza Motorsoprt 6 (and thats only what i recall). Thats is most of XBOX One's first years exclusives BTW.

And on the other hand PS4 to this day has it early games like inFamous Second Son, Killzone Shadowfall, The Order 1886, Bloodborne, P.T., Driveclub as its forever exclusives. That is why PS4 thrived and XBOX One failed.

After this period of some ports here and there (with one year gap) Microsoft expanded their PC strategy to this initiative and started to port most of their games to PC. This is what i assume is the next step for Sony if they continue down this path.

It took less time for Microsft. They ported some games here and there with one year gap from 2013 to 2016 and Sony is doing this for quite a while now. But Microsoft from 2013 to 2016 did exactly what Sony does now and decided to move to the next step quickly. This is the next step for Sony too, the question is only how much time will it take. If they won't decide to abandon this startegy and stop doing PC ports at all.

 

[Neofire]

No it's not, it's only good for PC elitist and Nvidia so they can continue churn out over priced GPU's. I could list a plethora of reasons why it hurts console gaming for all games to release on PC but I'll give one example.....Xbox, they release everything on PC and they're floundering like a fish out of water when according to everyone else's logic they should be raking in the cash from the PC community and don't make it seem like the Xbox has no good games because that is false even though my primary platform is PlayStation there are plenty of interesting games on the Xbox platform.

 

[justiceiro]

Your girlfriend, after cheating on you, trying to convince you that was a good thing.

 

[Topher]

It is absolutely not a false statement. You frame it this way and you didn't even read the part where i already proved my point.
I ve seen it, i was there and i saw how early Playstation 4's exclusives stayed on PS4, and XBOX One's exclusives since the first years started to beign ported to PC.

They started porting the games that was exclusive to their platform with f-ing XBOX ONE'S launch titles!
Dead Rising 3 and Ryse Sons of Rome was ported to PC in 2014!

Dead Rising 3, Ryse, D4, Ori, Forza Motorsoprt 6 was the period when Microsoft literally did the same thing as Playstation is doing today - during this period Microsoft did some ports here and there with one year gap from XBOX's release to PC's.
Also Sunset Overdrive's case is similar to for example Ghost of Tsushima's case - both of this games were ported to PC 4 years after release. The same thing with Halo Master Chief Collection (stayed as XBOX One exclusive for 5 years from 2014 to 2019) and for example The Last of Us Part 2 (stayed as PlayStation exclusive for 5 years from 2020 to 2025)

XBOX One in the first years of its release lost to PC: Dead Rising 3, Ryse, D4, Ori, Forza Motorsoprt 6 (and thats only what i recall). Thats is most of XBOX One's first years exclusives BTW.

And on the other hand PS4 to this day has it early games like inFamous Second Son, Killzone Shadowfall, The Order 1886, Bloodborne, P.T., Driveclub as its forever exclusives. That is why PS4 thrived and XBOX One failed.

After this period of some ports here and there (with one year gap) Microsoft expanded their PC strategy to this initiative and started to port most of their games to PC. This is what i assume is the next step for Sony if they continue down this path.

It took less time for Microsft. They ported some games here and there with one year gap from 2013 to 2016 and Sony is doing this for quite a while now. But Microsoft from 2013 to 2016 did exactly what Sony does now and decided to move to the next step quickly. This is the next step for Sony too, the question is only how much time will it take. If they won't decide to abandon this startegy and stop doing PC ports at all.

Hmmm, I misread and didn't see the "one year gap" you were talking about. Apologies. I get your point. Still disagree that Sony is "literally" doing the same thing, but that's really splitting hairs so I'll leave it there.

 

[HogIsland]

Your girlfriend, after cheating on you, trying to convince you that was a good thing.

concerning way of processing your relationship to a brand of computer

 

[Pandawan]

Hmmm, I misread and didn't see the "one year gap" you were talking about. Apologies. I get your point. Still disagree that Sony is "literally" doing the same thing, but that's really splitting hairs so I'll leave it there.

Thank god. I started to think whole world wants to gaslight me) Turned out it is a mistake. Never mind

 

[justiceiro]

concerning way of processing your relationship to a brand of computer

Or... I made a joke???

 

[Ironman_Bad]

Anyone who thinks games being available to more people is a bad thing needs to take a long, hard look at themselves and how their lives ended up where they are.

By that logic no pc games should ever have minimum requirements above a 10-15 year old GPU because you want every gamer to be able to play right

 

[Generic]

It's not.
It's the exclusivity that pushes platform holders to make great EXCLUSIVE games.
And games being on pc is just a devaluation of that idea.
At least when we are talking about single player games

Games should be devaluated, they are too expensive.

 

[rofif]

Games should be devaluated, they are too expensive.

too cheap.
we were paying 60$ 15-20 years ago

 

[Danjin44]

What exclusives brings to industry is healthy competition, if there is no exclusives only one company making console systems then that company can do whatever the fuck they want and charge any price they want because they know you have no other option.

Sure I want to see my devs to be more successful by releasing their games on more platforms but at the same time exclusive does matter.

 

[ArtHands]

too cheap.
we were paying 60$ 15-20 years ago

Agree. The publishers should consider increasing PS5 game price to $150

 

[drganon]

It is more of you not understanding how PC works.

PC won not because it is only doing what consoles isn’t doing. Part of the reasons PC won is because it is also now doing more of what console is doing, but better.

It matters not what people want, because at the end of the day, PC has something for everything. That’s the point.

 

[HogIsland]

somebody send this guy $80 so he can play online games for a year.

 

[HogIsland]

What exclusives brings to industry is healthy competition, if there is no exclusives only one company making console systems then that company can do whatever the fuck they want and charge any price they want because they know you have no other option.

Sure I want to see my devs to be more successful by releasing their games on more platforms but at the same time exclusive does matter.

exclusives are a block to competition, obviously. who can make a playstation? sony only. who can make a gaming PC? like 20 different companies. the chips inside a gaming system are a commodity, developers don't want a lot of innovation at the level of architecture. they want x86 cpus and dx12 compliant gpus. the competition that matters is between games, not artificially locked down PCs with AMD chips inside.

 

[evanft]

Console fanboys were lame and boring when I was in elementary school. Good to see that rings true today.

 

[ArtHands]

I feel like console folks should understand, companies like Square Enix and Sony bringing their games to other platforms is a natural state of thing in these times.

 

[Arsic]

*laughs in Nintendo*

 

[DenchDeckard]

It's not.
It's the exclusivity that pushes platform holders to make great EXCLUSIVE games.
And games being on pc is just a devaluation of that idea.
At least when we are talking about single player games

How do developers keep releasing single player games exclusively if the model isn't sustainable?

Sony isn't putting their games on pc for the lols or just to get even more bank. Their margins are too thin, they've said it themselves.

They would probably need to sell more copies of games than Nintendo does on the switch to be able to happily support one console exclusively.

 

[ArtHands]

How do developers keep releasing single player games exclusively if the model isn't sustainable?

Sony isn't putting their games on pc for the lols or just to get even more bank. Their margins are too thin, they've said it themselves.

They would probably need to sell more copies of games than Nintendo does on the switch to be able to happily support one console exclusively.

Many Playstation fans are in deep denial that Sony can still sustain with exclusivity. I don’t think this is getting to them.

 

[The Pleasure]

Is that what smash players see when they play Guilty Scrubs Strive?

 

[ArtHands]

As a console fan, I do think it is great that Sony is releasing their games into more platforms

 

[HogIsland]

*laughs in Nintendo*

Sony would have no problem staying exclusive with games like Princess Peach Showtime. We expect more from Playstation.

 

[Knucklepux]

The harsh reality is that exclusive content will continue to exist is some form. Yes, even on Xbox…eventually.

If you are against console exclusives, you are inheriting for subscription exclusives. Once Xbox has a much more fully functioning PC storefront, bye bye steam. I truly believe they will start small but eventually lock some games behind a Gamepass subscription.

I know everyone thinks that games will be on every platform and that consoles will compete hardware vs. hardware. That’s just not happening.

 

[Arachnid]

PC Players:

 

[HogIsland]

The harsh reality is that exclusive content will continue to exist is some form. Yes, even on Xbox…eventually.

If you are against console exclusives, you are inheriting for subscription exclusives. Once Xbox has a much more fully functioning PC storefront, bye bye steam. I truly believe they will start small but eventually lock some games behind a Gamepass subscription.

I know everyone thinks that games will be on every platform and that consoles will compete hardware vs. hardware. That’s just not happening.

You're just making shit up, totally contradictory to the statements and financial reasoning of the companies going multiplatform.

You still think these companies care about selling you an AMD computer. They care about IP.

 

[Knucklepux]

You're just making shit up, totally contradictory to the statements and financial reasoning of the companies going multiplatform.

You still think these companies care about selling you an AMD computer. They care about IP.

If it’s all about IP, then why even have a console? If you’re going to have a console, you need to provide people a reason to purchase it.

Also, using the companies previous statements and “reasoning” is just ignorant. Especially on Xbox’s side. They’ve changed strategy and reasoning multiple times over the last year.

Also, of course I’m making it all up. It’s my prediction

 

[HogIsland]

If it’s all about IP, then why even have a console? If you’re going to have a console, you need to provide people a reason to purchase it.

Also, using the companies previous statements and “reasoning” is just ignorant. Especially on Xbox’s side. They’ve changed strategy and reasoning multiple times over the last year.

Also, of course I’m making it all up. It’s my prediction

Sony CEO Hiroki Totoki (been posted a million times):

“In the past, as you all know, we wanted to popularize console and the first-party titles main purpose was to make the console popular,” Totoki said. “It is true, but there is a synergy to it. So if you have strong first-party content, not only with our console but also other platforms like computers, first-party can be grown with multiplatforms, and that can help operating profit to improve. So that is another one we want to proactively work on.

“I personally think there are opportunities out there for improvement of margins, so I would like to go aggressive on improving our margin performance.”

Sony Boss Says PlayStation Has ‘Room for Improvement’ When It Comes to Cutting Development Costs - IGN

Sony boss Hiroki Totoki has offered what he called his “frank impressions” of the PlayStation business, suggesting its studios can do more to cut development costs.

www.ign.com

It used to be that they made first party games in order to drive interest in the console. Now the goal is to grow the first party via multiplatform. The margin is in the content not the hardware.

The latest 2024 investor material has lot more on leveraging Playstation IP beyond games especially through Playstation Productions:

By expanding beyond the confines of gaming, PlayStation Productions aims to enrich the universes of our IPs and engage audiences on multiple levels.

https://www.sony.com/en/SonyInfo/creative-entertainment-vision/interview/3.html



You ask "why even have a console", the newly appointed CEO of Playstation has answered this:

PCs are difficult to set up, but with Playstation, once you turn it on, you can experience the content you bought straight away

and

Console is a technology stack that we develop from the bottom up so we can provide a very, very good excellent experience. The value of console will continue to remain and our mission is to continue polishing that

Nevertheless, he still plans to expand Playstation's reach by putting games on PC:

We are trying to increase our share of the overall game market by developing content for PCs as well

PlayStation’s co-CEO insists consoles will remain the core of its business | VGC

Hideaki Nishino believes PlayStation continues to offer a more convenient experience than PC…

www.videogameschronicle.com

see, not one point made up.

 

[Neofire]

The harsh reality is that exclusive content will continue to exist is some form. Yes, even on Xbox…eventually.

If you are against console exclusives, you are inheriting for subscription exclusives. Once Xbox has a much more fully functioning PC storefront, bye bye steam. I truly believe they will start small but eventually lock some games behind a Gamepass subscription.

I know everyone thinks that games will be on every platform and that consoles will compete hardware vs. hardware. That’s just not happening.

I agree exclusives will always be around but I don't know about the subscription model taking off especially with Microsoft being the spear head.

 

[Sethbacca]

PC Gamers : "Console has no games!"
Also PC Gamers : "WHY CONSOLE GAME NO COME TO PC!???"

Schroedingers console games out here.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

If you really love a game, you'll support it on whatever platform it happens to already be on.

Even if that means it's on a single platform.

This will always be true, it is always an absolute.

 

[Jigsaah]

OP is right. Because PC isn't beholden to a specific platform we PC folks are truly against any and all exclusives. I think PCMR more than not, basically transcend these fanboy wars, though we may have our disagreements between AMD vs NVidia or AMD vs Intel...blah blah.

Sony bringing games over to PC just improves their bottom line. As much as Sony folks jerk themselves off over sales of a company, they should be elated that they are getting more money while still not porting stuff over to their perceived main competition, namely Xbox.

Microsoft obviously benefits from porting but they've been doing this for years and I don't think Xbox folks really care. The company has bowed out of the console war and are bringing everything everywhere. Sony better wise up. Day and Date on PC is the next logical step IMO.

 

[HogIsland]

PC Gamers : "Console has no games!"
Also PC Gamers : "WHY CONSOLE GAME NO COME TO PC!???"

Schroedingers console games out here.

does not describe any real conversation

 

[HogIsland]

If you really love a game, you'll support it on whatever platform it happens to already be on.

Even if that means it's on a single platform.

This will always be true, it is always an absolute.

not true. case in point alan wake 2.

 

[Sethbacca]

does not describe any real conversation

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/has-the-ps5-already-cemented-itself-as-the-worst-playstation-generation-in-history.1679820/page-2#post-270028733