I think she was seriously serious in The Dark Below and it was a bit much. I think Bungie realized that and their decision to have her and Cayde play off each other was brilliant.
Cayde wearing the Eris mask on Halloween capped it off beautifully,
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Destiny 2 (PC/XB1/PS4, Sep 8) CG reveal trailer, pre-orders, gameplay debut May 18th
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I think she was seriously serious in The Dark Below and it was a bit much. I think Bungie realized that and their decision to have her and Cayde play off each other was brilliant.
Cayde wearing the Eris mask on Halloween capped it off beautifully,
wesleyshark
Banned
Lol.
JetBlackPanda
Member
I keep seeing this, are you a destiny player? I really don't see any hardcore D players giving a shit about this tone.
I am not saying your criticism isn't valid it totally is I just don't think people that have played this game for years on and off really give a shit.
The Salt Life
Banned
Having played all three borderlands and 700+ hours of destiny, they are not in the same ballpark in tone.
Nor do I feel it shifted in tone because of this trailer. Zavalla is acting like Zavalla with the noble fighters of the town, Cayde is acting like Cayde trying to appeal to the rif raff of the last city .....The pirates if you would. They only understand one thing, the quest for more booty
JetBlackPanda
Member
people complaining about the "loot" line in the trailer. LOL
there is a room in destiny that is literally a pirate booty stash with gold glimmer everywhere and treasure chests .
there is a room in destiny that is literally a pirate booty stash with gold glimmer everywhere and treasure chests .
RickyRozay
Member
I wonder if the story mode and raids will be cross compatible between PC and PS4.
I would argue that him screaming loot isn't a sign that Bungie is now emphasizing personality and story, but that they're still focused on the loot grind. I'm not gonna pass judgement until I actually see more gameplay, but it's really easy to be skeptical after the debacle that was Destiny 1's release
GustyGardens
Banned
She's a serious character, but Cayde liked to give her shit.
She was a hunter on a team of six that went into the Hellmouth on the moon to kill the Hive and Crota. Her entire team died and she lost her ghost, but she managed to survive in the Hellmouth for years until finally returning to the Tower. During her time in the Hellmouth, the Hive took her eyes, so she took theirs as replacements.
I don't think she'll be in Destiny 2, though. In one of the ghost fragments, she mentions that she's leaving the City. She says that there's a storm coming, and she won't be around when it finally hits.
She's a cool character, if not a little too self-serious.
For anyone disappointed with Destiny or with content volume, taking a skeptical, wait and see approach is entirely reasonable. Especially considering the repeat of the expansion pass and two announced expansions along side the game announcement - definitely echoes of Destiny 1 there.
But the assertion that they're going to follow the exact same approach based on that is ridiculous. You don't know how much is in either the base game or the expansions, though we do know the expansions are priced $5 lower this time around. We'll know the size and shape of it soon enough, not to mention the beta this summer.
It's been the tone of the game for nearly two years now.
I don't have an intimate knowledge of the characters in the series. All I saw was one character doing your generic Braveheart-style speech and the other, the trailer's focus, doing a comedic "awkward" bit. Like I said, your game can have comedic elements but if, in the very first trailer you show to the world, you're emphasizing those comedic elements, I'm going to see it as a comedy. A Halo debut trailer with Sgt. Johnson yucking it up would be true to the game but it wouldn't paint it as being anywhere close to serious.
I get the impression that Bungie's abandoning any pretense of making a story you can take seriously and, seeing as this would be my introduction to the series, it's disappointing.
Jest Chillin
Member
You don't find it plausible because you don't want it to be. You had an impression and are choosing what narrative you think is plausible because it fits your initial impression.
You seem to miss the point of my previous post. If you want to look at the trailer as canon story and judge the actions of the characters within the context of the universe... then you can't just pick and choose what elements of that universe you want to consider. It's not as simple as you want to paint it to be because emotions are complex and not required to react to things the way you do or want them to do.
If you don't want to look that deeply, then you should accept that it's a tongue in cheek trailer meant to reflect the two largest sides of the community that love the game. The people who delve deep into the world and lore and love the depth of the Destiny universe... and the people who literally only care about blowing things up to get cool new loot to blow things up in a slightly different, cooler, way.
Trying to play halfway between the two points just enough to try to back up your point is making a disingenuous argument. And it is an argument, not a critique. It stopped being critique the moment you began the back and forth to justify you stance.
Very few people have an issue with the critique of the trailer. People's justification for that critique though, that seems lacking.
Ryouji Gunblade
Member
That trailer fits the vanguard pretty well. Maybe later they can show off new sparrow tricks and dancing.
franklyshankly
Member
Zavalla and Cayde have an ongoing back and forth of that nature. It has been a part of the story for years now. Zavalla takes things seriously, Cayde says ah whatever and does whatever he wants. This is not a new dynamic and is totally in line with the existing story.
I guess it just plays differently to people who aren't already well versed in Destiny.
Exactly. I personally have faith in Bungie, based on the changes they've made to the game since vanilla launch, that they realize there needs to be more content in these two expansions.
I should also note that in my personal opinion, House of Wolves was already a noticeable improvement over The Dark Below. The short campaign was way better and it had an actual final boss mission. The story itself felt better than TDB as well.
TTK was then an extension of this learning curve and I believe this will continue with Destiny 2.
if I'm wrong, that will suck. But I have faith in them.
wesleyshark
Banned
Yep. They bounce off each other a lot, especially in TKK.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
I'm still struggling to understand why people are taking this trailer so seriously. Like, if these trailers were indicative of anything Gears of War would be a very, very different franchise, lol.
Again, it's a fun spot to get existing fans excited and shill pre-orders to said fans. Nothing else really. Fans know the actual game will almost certainly be in-line with TTK, and for everyone els, wait for the proper reveal. It might be a different marketing approach than say, Halo 3, but it's literally just marketing. I guess you can take issue with that and complain about how you like one approach better, but ya'll are massively over-reading.
Again, it's a fun spot to get existing fans excited and shill pre-orders to said fans. Nothing else really. Fans know the actual game will almost certainly be in-line with TTK, and for everyone els, wait for the proper reveal. It might be a different marketing approach than say, Halo 3, but it's literally just marketing. I guess you can take issue with that and complain about how you like one approach better, but ya'll are massively over-reading.
Again, it doesn't matter what the intricacies of the story are, the trailer shows me the tone Bungie wants to show off for the game. I even used an example in my post; Halo has characters entirely meant for comedy yet the game itself is not about comedy. What I'm getting from this trailer is that Destiny 2 is more about loot and comedy than anything else.
Yeah their dynamic works great Taken King onwards.
Anybody post this? The theme that comes with digital preorder https://youtu.be/OvOlaum3Crg
The music is really good
The music is really good
ZeezbruhTV
Member
I do really wish they kept going with D1's DLC route, free content in between yearly expansions then $40 for the expansion. This DLC1 and 2 thing is turning me off.
Hit the nail on the head.
Nobody is saying that Cayde's humor shouldn't exist. It's just that it's overused in this trailer. That, and the content of what he's saying all points towards Destiny 2 being more about loot than story
People were like "How can you hate Cayde?!"
and I'm like, watch this trailer, now imagine watching it over and over and over as you repeat these missions. His humour gets old real fast.
Of course, the actual game will consist of other characters as well, so I'm not panicking or anything. But maybe now more people will understand why I dislike Cayde?
and I'm like, watch this trailer, now imagine watching it over and over and over as you repeat these missions. His humour gets old real fast.
Of course, the actual game will consist of other characters as well, so I'm not panicking or anything. But maybe now more people will understand why I dislike Cayde?
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
While it wasn't the debut trailer, the vast majority of Destiny marketing was guardians dancing to Led Zeppelin and parroting stereotypical voice chat talk. You're over reading when you know that the purpose here is "yo Destiny fans, get excited and pre-order now!" and not some hard commentary on the tone of the game.
Doesn't really seem like they would compensate and then still keep the same content map outline but sure, we'll see. Like I said I would like nothing more than for D2 to be amazing on every level given the current Fall multiplayer slate. the Beta will probably be just as great as D1's.
didnt d1 have sub dlcs too like the dark below and house of wolves?
franklyshankly
Member
I have no problem assuming that it is more about loot than story. No matter how much they add story or how seriously they take it the loot grind will always be the main focus of the game. If that's not what you're looking for then Destiny is just not the game for you.
Having 2 big expansions is great.
The thing is. Bungie needs to have smaller content deployments in between that. I'm sure they've taken some notes on Division and even Overwatch.
The themed content updates in Overwatch are amazing and Destiny 2 needs to do something similar. They need things to keep players engaged every so often.
The thing is. Bungie needs to have smaller content deployments in between that. I'm sure they've taken some notes on Division and even Overwatch.
The themed content updates in Overwatch are amazing and Destiny 2 needs to do something similar. They need things to keep players engaged every so often.
EVA UNIT 01
Member
Being on PC is what I needed to go back.
Got into D1 during the TK era but stopped just before RoI.
Im just not down with MP on console anymore.
Got into D1 during the TK era but stopped just before RoI.
Im just not down with MP on console anymore.
Seriously though, how can you hate Cayde?
wesleyshark
Banned
And I've got goosebumps.
Hispanic! At the Disco
Member
Yes it had 3 if you count rise of iron, which imo was closer to HoW than anything. Im sure a 4th was planned and got scrapped for destiny 2 as well since their original leaked roadmap was
Destiny - 2 dlc's - 1 large expansion - 2 dlc's - Destiny 2 - 2 dlc's - 1 large expansion - 2 dlc's - Destiny 3 etc.
So it was always going to be this way before Destiny 1 was announced.
The vast majority? That was one live action trailer close to launch. It was the Destiny equivalent of the CoD "There's a Soldier in All of Us" trailers.
And no, if the purpose here was to just say "yo Destiny fans, get excited and pre-order now" they could have just put up something revealing the trailer. This is the game's debut trailer, it's the direct equivalent of the Halo 3: ODST one I linked earlier. That's its purpose to you as a Destiny fan, but as a person new to Destiny what I see I'm not a fan of.
Hero Prinny
Member
wow thats a long time to wait for the gameplay trailer, also i see its a comedyish kind of game now (only played og destiny)
And it seems to be working. People are hyped for this. This is following the tone the game has been for a couple of years now.
blame space
Banned
Game looks sick I'm gonna pre-order.
Their was no gameplay
Diablohead
Member
Destiny 2 loot needs to be a lot better then the first game, more perks that adjust how weapons work and react, less minor buffs, they need to have meaning instead of being infusion fuel.
Hero Prinny
Member
wtf? how does it look sick? there was no gameplay whatsoever
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Taken King had one as well, and combined it was literally 100% of the game's TV marketing, which is what the vast majority of people actually see, not the full length YouTube uploads and E3 broadcasts.
And like I said before, it's a change in marketing approach from the Halo days. But that's just it. A marketing approach. Not some grand reveal of Bungie's new Deadpool game. It's a CG trailer cooked up by marketing. Chillax.
Fix The Scientist
Member
He's in it for the loot and funny jokes
There's context for that tone. Mainly being "Holy shit our entire original writing team is gone. We have no idea what the Darkness or the Traveler are or should be. We're drowning in negative comments about the story. Let's just focus on personality of these characters we have."
This was their chance to launch V2 and right the ship. Get that sense of mystery with the big events and nature of these larger than life objects and forces back on the radar. But they continued to just work their mediocre comedy. Clearly you see the problem people are having, right? Again, first impressions.
Lots of Destiny players have racked up hundreds/thousands of hours in the game. It really isn't that hard to understand.
Trying way too hard to be borderlands here.
referring to any writing out of destiny as "brilliant" is a joke
referring to any writing out of destiny as "brilliant" is a joke
Crimson_Gold
Member
No. Not at all. The draw was the gameplay. The alerts you're describing are still there and ate going to be fleshed out in the story. Perhaps the mystery and awe you're selling is better experienced in the game this time. No telling. The trailer does confirm loot. That's what people love, loot.