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[DF] Assetto Corsa Competizione Upgraded For PS5 and Xbox Series X/S - Full Analysis
- Thread starter Topher
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Welp.
GT7 entered the chat...lol. And I was already impressed with Forbidden West.
I was not expecting to be impressed anymore with loading in PS5 games.
GT7 entered the chat...lol. And I was already impressed with Forbidden West.
Topher
Identifies as young
I added the full article to fill in anything I missed while taking notes and watching the video. Factually, the game does drop into the 40s on XSX during game play. Yes, 50s is most common.
ChiefDada
Gold Member
Riky, you're venturing off into foolishness territory.
1. Last gen consoles ran at 30fps with less vfx.
2. The lower bound for PS5 was an extreme outlier that would be difficult to replicate.
3. IQ will NEVER be prioritized over performance in a racing sim.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
If the framerate suffers...then maybe it shouldn't be pushing 25% + higher resolutions?
Silent Viper
Banned
You call this another one. Game looks like an optimised mess like Dying light 2. Doing victory run over this? Lol
Silent Viper
Banned
Shouldn't you posting this to devs than Gaf member?
Lysandros
Member
My personal candiates are: 1.VRR 2. Linear scaling being less effective on XSX for some reason 3. Some sort of a 'soft mandate/preference' by Microsoft related to PR influencing developer decisions.The thing is, how does a conversation like this go?
Sir, PS5 is locked 60, but Xbox is dropping to 40.
Ship it
But sir, why don’t we just spend 2 minutes in the Xbox ini file to adjust the resolution
Nah, F those green rats, ship it
Or, they played with the ini file, didn’t claw back the performance and gave up.
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Sosokrates
Report me if I continue to console war
No worries, but its a pretty important piece of info. Makes the xsx look worse then it is weather that was your intention or not.
Die Namek Ability
Member
The systems can only play the games that are released on them... It is a definite trend now that XSX favors res over framerate and PS5 favors framerate over res. Why cant it just be the facts and not always a win one way or the other?
Snake29
Banned
Resolution is the same....
It was the lowest found, but not seen other then one spot.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Maybe we shouldn't have digital foundry videos posted here. Maybe they should just be sent to devs as well?
What a weird thing to say. It's a forum. We discuss these things since ever.
DJ12
Member
I would wait for better analysis, no idea who this Oliver guy is. Hopefully vgtech do a video on it.
Topher
Identifies as young
Updated OP
Shmunter
Member
I can’t imagine so many devs would be leaning on the VRR crutch and not bother optimising. I think VRR is just a happy coincidence in a system that needs it.
Can’t be a PR thing unless ms PR department are complete idiots as this is obviously doing the opposite. They spent a great deal of effort buttering up DF early in the gen, so they should know what’s what.
It is the system memory, I’m almost certain off it. The GPU is prioritising the fast ram and other processes are being essentially starved. More handcrafted approaches are needed here, and not all devs have the skill, time, or budget to worry about it.
Mr Moose
Member
I'd take his counts with a grain of salt.
PS4 renders at a native resolution of 1536x864.
Xbox One S renders at a native resolution of 1280x720.
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Tripolygon
Banned
It’s not a matter of taking it with a grain of salt. The resolution is dynamic and will give variances depending on what frame you count from. DF, NXG, VGTech might all have different counts sometimes because the game is very dynamic.
Mr Moose
Member
He straight up lied about Dying Light 2.
Riky
$MSFT
Last gen versions often went higher than 30fps, PS4 up to 40fps.
All lower bounds are outliers.
The developer could have had Xbox One X at 1080p and pushed framerate if that was the case, they didn't.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Yet another eastern developer that's lazy eh? Oops, I meant western. Jeez. Nobody gives a damn it seems. Tragic.
Riky
$MSFT
I agree, 1152p is lower than PS4 Pro and far lower than Xbox One X, unacceptable.
GHG
Member
First it was the Japanese and now it's the Italians.
No pizza, no pasta, no sushi. All off the menu.
Could never be me.
ethomaz
Banned
Well all games are an optimized mess if you want to use that excuse lol
Why these games continue coming?
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GHG
Member
But it does. He's got it all set up in a very convincing way but when maxed out on PC it's still the best looking driving sim out there on any platform when in gameplay scenarios.
This is a video on his setup so you can see what it rendered vs what is real:
assurdum
Banned
You also "forgot" 25% of higher resolution in some scenario doesn't means it uses 25% of more pixels constantly..
Anyway it's nice to see DF change again their mindset about "we not count anymore native pixels with DRS because not worthy " and curiously it doesn't applies (coincidentally) when a game runs worse on XSX.
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assurdum
Banned
It seems you weren't so indignant to lower 1080p in AC Valhalla on XSX for better fps lol. But sure have better FPS on ps5 shouldn't count right?
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Lysandros
Member
So you are seeing the XSX RAM setup as the sole hardware reason that prevents effective linear scaling contary to PS5, is that correct?
Shmunter
Member
Yes, nothing else stands out - everything else in the hardware is conventional apart from the ram configuration.
I do believe it effects the scaling. The GPU is overwhelming the bandwidth at the cost of other things, hence resolution can be higher. Lowering it doesn’t gain more performance due to bottlenecking elsewhere.
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GHG
Member
I play the game myself and yes, graphically it looks every bit as good as shown in that video.
This is direct feed gameplay with a similar reshade to what he'll be using:
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Cherrypepsi
Member
Lysandros
Member
It can very well be then, makes sense. I'll still wait for PS5 VRR release to see if there is change in resolution/FPS ratios to dismiss the role of VRR safely.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
VRR won't change the resolution metrics set by developers. The DRS drops in this game, for example, will still be the same even with VRR.
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Dr Bass
Member
Aren't those versions running at 30fps vs the 60 of the PS5/XSeries consoles?
Your constant twisting of facts to try and prop up an Xbox positive narrative is tiresome and contributes negatively to this board in a very noticeable fashion.
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Riky
I see you responded to this post with the "empathy" tag. I don't think you understand what that word means. I'm pretty sure I know what you think it means, but no. One quick definition is "The ability to understand and share the feelings of another." So you either don't know what you're talking about, or you also think your behavior on this board is ridiculous.
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FrankWza
Gold Member
Shmunter
Member
I hate to raise such things, but the constant promotion of series S is very odd. Almost like a marketing campaign, I just can’t get past a core gamer push such hardware on a core forum. And never, not even once critical of MS. 2 + 2 = 5
Anyway….
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Epic Sax CEO
Banned
This is actually something that I wanted to hear a clear answer about.
The Sexual Brother's OS controls the aggressiveness of the DRS used but the games, or this is something that it's controlled only by the game? It's the developers that are making this choice, allowing the Sexual Brothers to keep resolution and dropping framerate trusting the presence of VRR?
If they're doing this they're doing it wrong, because in cases like this VRR can't save fluidity all the time.
Rewatched that bit because I hadn't watched in the best conditions first time and it's true, sorry.
I only remembered he commenting latter that I was hard to see any difference in sharpness, but the SeX uses indeed a higher average resolution (specially during rain, it seems) but at what coast?
Again, how is to blame for this?
I understand allowing the framerate to drop a bit because of VRR, but often the console drops too much. Would this some behind the doors Microsoft policy/recommendation?
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DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
yeah, watched the video now. There is no excuse or glossing over this. PS5 is absolutely dominating here. That framerate is tanking on the xbox. I have no idea what the cause is but dang! rough stuff.
CuteFaceJay
Member
Dropping below 60 on either console why? This game is old as balls!
Not offering a lower visual for locked 60 is a joke. Not sure what dev is playing at tbh.
Not offering a lower visual for locked 60 is a joke. Not sure what dev is playing at tbh.
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Riky
$MSFT
Aren't those versions running at 30fps vs the 60 of the PS5/XSeries consoles?
Your constant twisting of facts to try and prop up an Xbox positive narrative is tiresome and contributes negatively to this board in a very noticeable fashion.
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The only negative aspect is people that can't follow the conversation or don't want to like you. I'm responding to people who are saying developers are pushing resolution as framerate doesn't matter due to VRR. The proof is the last gen versions running at higher base resolutions than a PS5 but having performance fluctuate between 30 and 40fps shows that isn't the case as PS4 Pro doesn't even support VRR and never will. My empathy is for your lack of understanding.
GHG
Member
Well if someone is actually pushing this (which even I'm not cynical to believe) then it would be pretty stupid considering most people won't have a VRR 4k TV.
And if they are trying to push sone "resolution superiority/priority" clause then it's shortsighted to do so without also offering a lower resolution locked framerate mode for those who don't want to have to endure janky framerates. That way you are at least offering people a choice and those with VRR can still get their lower framerate but higher resolution experience if they please.
Dr.brain64
Member
The shadows on sx are quite an alarming dissapointment.
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Sega Orphan
Banned
After playing Forza for so long I tried both this and Project Cars and neither hold a candel to it. They handle like shit and the graphics suck. I assume it's the same going from GT to these as well.
I won't even bother trying it.
I won't even bother trying it.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
To be fair/clear.
This is not a new game, this is a 2020 game getting a next-gen patch.
Horizon 5 and GT7 are much more recent, and better optimized for their respective hardware.
assurdum
Banned
Shocking news. Many if not most of the games with 60 FPS mode hit a lower resolution dynamically than the pro/one X version at 30 FPS. This prove again what kind of buffoon you are when we talking about ps5 performance on multiplat. My empathy goes to the people who tries to have a serious conversation with you in this matter because you really deserve all the shit you get it from post like the previous quoted.
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TrebleShot
Member
It’s impressive but this isn’t all in game, basically the chassis wheel and some dash elements are actually real.
This is someone in a ridiculous sim rig playing with a go pro on.
Not to say the stuff on screen isn’t impressive.
