Then it's a matter of semantics.
It's easy to hide biases behind technical aspects, but that's where the FUD comes into play.
Yeah, but your implying 'inherently bad faith bias against', instead of 'indifference' which is more likely the case. Like i'm inherently indifferent to both companies, I just like both platforms to put out great hardware so I benefit from it as a PC gamer with great content utilizing proper hardware.
But it actually does, but it's not exactly fault of Nvidia or Sony, is easy to look how much wafer cost in TSMC on current processing nodes. And it will be worse:
No, I'm saying they are deliberately creating FUD, due to direct ties to MS, because there is actual proof of those ties.
Your take is fair. I just don't believe DF doesn't push FUD in favor of MS, possibly even in coordination with MS.
Being a relic make me save money, these dudes can gladly fuck off with the shill.
And this moriarthy dude is supposed to be one of the good ones?
The people hated him for trying to tell the truth.
The definitive Xbox Gamescom interview
Earlier today I spoke with Xbox boss Phil Spencer to discuss the company's future in video games.www.eurogamer.net
I want to see too.. and why he say that to me?
Yeah, i'm not seeing it. I see equal "DF hates XBOX" memes on reddit. It's just basic trench warfare at this point, both sides blaming eachother with techsites like DF being in the middle. It's ok for DF to be wrong about predictions, I mean, who would have guessed MS would fuck up their API performance this bad. But it doesn't immediately show bad faith to the competitor product. The same can be said about NXGamer who is "clearly baised against PC" as some would say, but I see him objectively dissecting PC performance in his reviews, like I would too. So... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Both Sony and Nintendo tried to do both. Both failed. They are going again to strangle their "powerful" home console with the memory specs of a less powerful, here a handheld?
Yeah, but given how much back then was PS4 Pro, X1X, the trend will move upwards, mostly because of silicon cost. Does not mean there won't be Series S type of console, which much smaller chip, yes
Right, first parties indeed. How many of those studios still up and running there in 2 years ? Same question for Playstation first parties BTW.
Again, I point to the trending between PS3 and PS4, which even disregarding the initial "all bell's and whistles" versions, was basically flat or downwards when adjusting for 8 years worth of inflation.
That is true, but the problem is that somehow wafer now go up with the time, while it was previously on downward trend over time (in that PS3 - PS4 period). TSMC is simply lacking competition
You're failing to take into account the "standard" nvidia gamer GPU now is the 60 series, taking up a position similar to the 70 series in the past. With 50 being the new "mid-low budget" laptop GPU that the 60 used to be. A 3060/4060 will run pretty much anything at high-ultra graphics and 30-60 fps depending on config, especially when you include frame generation and DLSS into the equation.[DF] GPU vs PS4 comparisons less important than a bleak future for GPU pricing
Oh wait, this title never happened at DF for some reason and they were pushing these expensive GPUs over cheaper alternatives.
GPU prices are in the shitter now and shot up by an additional $500 for the same class GPU. Meaning in the past you could buy a console and a GPU for the same price as a GPU today but you won't hear a peep from DF about how GPU prices got inflated to oblivion and that bleak future we're living in already.
I want to see too.. and why he say that to me?
It's called shrinkflation or lowering your expectation
Interesting how you decided it was ok to ignore what's by far the 2 most meaningful aspects of this generation.
Not really because the 1080 was considered the high end in the past at $599 too. Just because nvidia started making lower performing cards while charging the same as the higher tiers of the past doesn't mean GPU prices haven't skyrocketed.
How is framegen or DLSS/PSSR excluded from this equation when it comes to consoles? If a 3060 or 4060 can run anything you throw at it then a PS5 Pro can run it even better now with PSSR and framegen.
They're not lower performing though, far from it. I feel people in this forum live in a bubble where anything below a 3070 has to run everything on medium-low settings at 30 fps. Also, the 1080 wasn't the ceiling back then, we also had the 1080 ti ($700), the Titan X ($1000), the Titan Xp ($1200), and even the Titan V (whooping $3000). And i know for a fact there were enough people buying Titan series for gaming.
Why are you even bringing ps5 up when your post was talking about GPUs? Besides, we need to wait for these to actually come out before discussing, there is a world of difference between FSR and DLSS and we still don't know how Sony's tech will hold up against the others.
Being a relic make me save money, these dudes can gladly fuck off with the shill.
And this moriarthy dude is supposed to be one of the good ones?
We have had TIs since the geforce 4 (not 4000 series) and recently introduced Supers. That has nothing to do with the fact that the GTX 1080 was the flagship series. The titans were just a taste of how much they can extract from the whales. The 60 series is shrinkflation at its finest. To the point where they do the supermarket tactic of giving you less at the same price stealthly. They did this with the 3060/4060 RAM variants too. Quietly lowered it (resulting in big performance drops) but kept the same price.
Because I'm making the connection between a higher end console and a higher end GPU and how GPU prices have skyrocketed even worse without a peep from DF about the bleak pricing future of GPUs we're already living in now. Instead they were pushing spending on those expensive cards that were going up and up in price. To the point where a flagship series card costs 3x as much as it did in the past.
Shying away from the question? Is shilling for Sony your job? Like I said, you’re gone for nearly 3 months, then your precious Sony starts getting attacked for its price tag of the PS5 Pro, then you magically reappear. Seems like you’re the one that couldn’t handle their emotions.
There there, snookums. I know the burning ship has you a little overly emotional.
Bro, relax with your lame creepy stalker vibes.
Topher
shot me a text asking me where I've been. Real life has needs. Racing season starts, and I am heavily involved with that. He mentioned that a few were asking where I've been and that the Pro news was dropping so I figured there is some semblance of gaming interest when it comes to advancements in hardware tech in the sea of gaming mediocrity in arguably the worst modern software gen ever (minus Elden Ring and a very very few outliers).
It's ok to ignore them when we are talking about future at reasonable depth
It was a simple question. Took me like 30 seconds to look at a post history. It’s not like you’ve never looked at someone’s post history to see a history of fandom. I’m not harping on it. It was a total of two posts. Three if you include this response to you.
[DF] GPU vs PS4 comparisons less important than a bleak future for GPU pricing
Oh wait, this title never happened at DF for some reason and they were pushing these expensive GPUs over cheaper alternatives.
GPU prices are in the shitter now and shot up by an additional $500 for the same class GPU. Meaning in the past you could buy a console and a GPU for the same price as a GPU today but you won't hear a peep from DF about how GPU prices got inflated to oblivion and that bleak future we're living in already.
www.eurogamer.net
Check my post history, baby!
Topher
history is more interesting with his constant Horizon and Starfield talk. Were you here when he gushed at the Lego Horizon dropping on PC day 1? Bro had to change his pants.
I kind of get a Sony Lego collab....but Horizon?
To be fair we have yet to see AMD's next generation graphics cards that are aimed towards to mid-range and lower mid-range. Then theres Nvidia's entry level Blackwell GPU's, next year. That are more in line to compete in value verses the PS5 Pro.
They were pushing the more expensive $1600 GPU in that article as the better alternative though.Nvidia GeForce RTX 4080 review: a powerful GPU with a big pricing problem
Benchmarks, analysis and more - the Digital Foundry breakdown.
Won’t hear a peep you say?
i dont mind anyone taking a break from this awful excuse for a generation. this summer was so bad i was forced to play mlb the show. not once but twice. (not a bad game btw)Bro, relax with your lame creepy stalker vibes.
If you must ask,
Yeah, one good thing about PC reviews these past few years is that they have been very vocal about nvidia's price gouging. The reviews for the super series were especially brutal. most recently, nvidia downgraded the 4070 ram speeds and that caused quite a commotion.Nvidia GeForce RTX 4080 review: a powerful GPU with a big pricing problem
Benchmarks, analysis and more - the Digital Foundry breakdown.
Won’t hear a peep you say?
