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Shifty1897
Member
OP is literally part of the problem.
Flash Junkins
Member
Why? You trying to go broke?
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
The OP is a 70 year old?
Funny I mostly know them to have PC's to play Might & Magic / Age of Empires ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
angrod14
Member
I'm a millenial console gamer.
HofT
Banned
Should be daily
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Same here, and while some things I will buy digital like those arcade releases they do on PSN for things like the old SNK games or cheap games releases I go physical every time unless there is no physical release and even then I'm likely not to buy it unless its on sale.
I've never liked the idea of digital since I read the user agreement, the wording is tells you all you need to know.
And the funny thing is some people still think and say you don't own your physical games.
And while I understand the fact the data on the disc still belong to them, that just means I can't duplicate it and sell it because I don't have the rights to.
But I can sell my copy of I can buy multiple and sell them at a higher price and they couldn't do nothing because it's mine to sell.
They sold me a copy of it and that copy belongs to me and any attempts to remove it from my hands would be classed as theft because it's a physical item I paid for.
No if or buts
Codes 208
Member
shouldnt be spammed at all. we get it already, you console-only players love your disks
Kamina
Golden Boy
No, i will become a retro gamer or commit sudoku.
ChoosableOne
ChoosableAll
JimmyRustler
Member
Not sure why people are so obsessed with ownership, especially when it comes to entertainment. Who cares? The way I see it you pay for the provided service.
But maybe I’m a big biased in that regard because I grew up with someone who got into HARDCORE debt just to OWN shit…
But maybe I’m a big biased in that regard because I grew up with someone who got into HARDCORE debt just to OWN shit…
Hudo
Member
Ngl, I am still kinda pissed about Half-Life 2 requiring a fucking Steam account to play...
Fess
Member
Yeah nothing last forever. But I still have C64 cassette tapes that works fine. And Amiga 500 floppies. But load errors do happen and when it does it’s a horrible feeling.
I’ve ripped all the important floppies from the Amiga so I can access them with emulators. Just has to have a secure backup solution now because hdd crashes can also happen! (been there…)
TheThreadsThatBindUs
Member
Don't cheat in MP games or expose yourself in Uno and you won't get banned.
Laptop1991
Member
Totally agree OP, something should be done to redress the balance in the consumer's favour.
gaming_again
Member
What happens with Gabe dies/retires?
The trust people have towards Steam is built entirely on one man.
Skifi28
Member
That has nothing to do with physical or digital. If you buy an always online game, you know beforehand that the servers will be turned off at some point.
FeralEcho
Member
No it's not applicable at all,I can make 50 accounts and still play that same physical game on each one,but with digital if the account is gone so is your game.
HerjansEagleFeeder
Member
This is the way. Prefer digital for the convenience, but everything OP said is true. GoG needs more support.
Hudo
Member
No joke, I've recently played Uno with some gals and they had the worst fucking house rules I've ever seen. So as a matter of principle, I fucked them so hard at Uno that I probably blew my chances of actually fucking them. No regrets.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Truth, right here.
Unless you are hosting and serving your own data, which isn't likely to be free, everything is done on digital "land" belonging to somebody else. And if you don't own the land, whatever you build isn't guaranteed to last because the land-owner is always free to bulldoze it flat and sell it on.
Bit of a clumsy metaphor, but basically what the reality is.
The online world only exists so long as its maintained. Its not like a physical thing which has its own entity, and just "is", until its damaged or destroyed. Its just data, and data is transient.
HofT
Banned
Console-only? Not me. It's about advocating for being able to own what you buy. That needs to be digital as well.
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coffinbirth
Member
The_Observer
Member
We tried to tell you like 10 years ago but you didn’t listen. Next time hopefully you will.
Bond007
Member
"Convenience" isnt worth the losses.
In a few years we will all be crying. Cause i thats what happens in this hobby.
Its great at first and then eyes are opened and its hated.
Paying for online
Battle passes
microtransactions
Gamepass recently not as favorable in the eyes of many.
Special Editions
Game prices
Muliple skus
We ultimately lose- every time.
In a few years we will all be crying. Cause i thats what happens in this hobby.
Its great at first and then eyes are opened and its hated.
Paying for online
Battle passes
microtransactions
Gamepass recently not as favorable in the eyes of many.
Special Editions
Game prices
Muliple skus
We ultimately lose- every time.
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rm082e
Member
I went all digital in 2011 and haven't bought a physical game since. No problems and no regrets. The emulation/piracy/enthusiast community will "fix" most real injustices if I really care enough to go work at getting something a digital store doesn't want to sell me.
Life is short. Stop worrying about what bad things could happen. Games should be a source of joy, not stress.
Life is short. Stop worrying about what bad things could happen. Games should be a source of joy, not stress.
Darkmakaimura
Can You Imagine What SureAI Is Going To Do With Garfield?
While I love physical, I actually think digital can be better but one exception.... It must be DRM free. That's why I stick almost exclusively with GOG.
The problem with physical media nowadays is that so many games practically require patching to work correctly so a lot of these discs and cartridges are basically coasters.
With DRM free digital, you can back up the game with all the patches and DLC and have the full game on backup physical media.
The problem with physical media nowadays is that so many games practically require patching to work correctly so a lot of these discs and cartridges are basically coasters.
With DRM free digital, you can back up the game with all the patches and DLC and have the full game on backup physical media.
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Moriarty1889
Member
Agree with everything said 100%. Problem is, those of us who agree with you are being outnumbered by mindless sheep who don’t care about anything in life and buy digital cuz it’s ‘convenient’ for them. They could care less about owning anything and it shows. I will always support physical and buy used to save money when I can. Digital can get fucked for all I care along with all the mindless lazy drones who support it.
Dr. Wilkinson
Member
Gamestop's and every other retailers physical goods sales would seem to contradict all of your points, as clearly 95% of consumers are fine with how things currently work.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
On steam you have access to you game files. You can backup, modify, change version etc.
On psn?! Absolutely nothing. You can download and not be able to play if you dont connect for 2 weeks. No version control either.
Discs at least let me own, play offline and play 1.0 if Inso desire. I can fight radahn 1.0. Digital folks cannot.
And with discs, retailers can have competitive pricing
Steam is good. Discs are fine.
Console storefronts are tragic.
On psn?! Absolutely nothing. You can download and not be able to play if you dont connect for 2 weeks. No version control either.
Discs at least let me own, play offline and play 1.0 if Inso desire. I can fight radahn 1.0. Digital folks cannot.
And with discs, retailers can have competitive pricing
Steam is good. Discs are fine.
Console storefronts are tragic.
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Lumpyoatmeal
Member
Developers are getting played too by paying massive fees to digital store clients off their hard work. Look how desperate Epic Games is trying to establish their store so they can exit out of game development as well.
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Nintendo's Witch
Member
Owning fucking toys should be the number 1 commandment of human rights OP. You have my sword.
Fbh
Member
I (almost) never buy digital at full price for this reason. It's an inferior product to me and as such I'm not willing to spend as much money on it.
Digital is fine for sales, once you get to the $35 or under range I'm fine paying that for a game I might loose access to at some point in the future.
PC is a bit different as there is no alternative, but games are usually cheaper anyway, I have more confident people would crack DRM and make my games playable if Steam ever goes under, and for a lot of older stuff Piracy is a valid alternative to me if I ever loose access to the games I bought.
Digital is fine for sales, once you get to the $35 or under range I'm fine paying that for a game I might loose access to at some point in the future.
PC is a bit different as there is no alternative, but games are usually cheaper anyway, I have more confident people would crack DRM and make my games playable if Steam ever goes under, and for a lot of older stuff Piracy is a valid alternative to me if I ever loose access to the games I bought.