Rea
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ZD on high end PC currently , is no where near at the level of this trailer.
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Does Horizon forbidden west looks next gen or current gen?
Neo_game
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I voted for last gen because the game was in development for sometime and I am sure they were told pretty early on to make the game on last gen console as well. So they had to keep PS4 specs in mind. If the game turns out like CP2077. Which I do not think will happen. Then it could only mean this game was not meant to be for the PS4.
Rea
Member
How do you think?
Team Andromeda
Member
It is lame and stupid to make out out the game looks current gen. That said it's not quite the huge leap I was expecting but they've also upped the scale of the game and also have those wonderful underwater sections and I reckon the game is a year off coming out and I'm sure when played on an actual PS5 in one's house it will blow the last game out the water 
Rea
Member
I mean the Decima engine currently is still limited with PS4 I/O in mind and still not optimized for PS5 revolutionary I/O system. That's why it can still run on PS4. In the future there will be Decima engine 2.0 and fully optimized for PS5, which is impossible to run on PS4.
Currently the game is like using everything ultra settings on PS5 but medium or high settings on PS4.
Craig of War
Banned
Im gone to go out on a limb here and say it look Cross Gen.
kungfuian
Member
I loved the first game and am really looking forward to part 2 but personally this demo didn't really do much for me.
Not so much to do with graphics or tech per se, although the world feels a little crowded/busy and garish for my tastes, but I was kinda bummed they chose to show such a linear segment set in really small environments.
I know it was a little slice of the game demoing certain features but I was just really hoping to see some exploration in open world spaces. To be clear, this is not to insinuate any potential impact on graphics of small vs. open spaces, because the first Horizon's fidelity was pretty consistent with both. I just want to see open world gameplay.
Also re the next gen vs. last gen thing. It's reasonable to assume all Sony cross gen games like Miles, Sackboy, and this were originally planned as PS4 games and then bumped up to include PS5 versions at some point. This game looks gorgeous for sure, but like all next gen so far (both cross gen and PS5 exclusives), it looks like a PS4 game on steroids to me.
Not so much to do with graphics or tech per se, although the world feels a little crowded/busy and garish for my tastes, but I was kinda bummed they chose to show such a linear segment set in really small environments.
I know it was a little slice of the game demoing certain features but I was just really hoping to see some exploration in open world spaces. To be clear, this is not to insinuate any potential impact on graphics of small vs. open spaces, because the first Horizon's fidelity was pretty consistent with both. I just want to see open world gameplay.
Also re the next gen vs. last gen thing. It's reasonable to assume all Sony cross gen games like Miles, Sackboy, and this were originally planned as PS4 games and then bumped up to include PS5 versions at some point. This game looks gorgeous for sure, but like all next gen so far (both cross gen and PS5 exclusives), it looks like a PS4 game on steroids to me.
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I wasnt gonna vote until I saw a comparison between this, Demon's Souls and Rift Apart.
After seeing that....looks next gen easily. Some of us have been saying over n over n over....despite it being cross gen I expected it to look amazing. Miles was proof of this.
After seeing that....looks next gen easily. Some of us have been saying over n over n over....despite it being cross gen I expected it to look amazing. Miles was proof of this.
Good thing the trailers say Captured on PS5. There were enough flaws to absolutely trust the trailer.
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Rea
Member
Can you enlighten me where do you find the comparison?
Rea
Member
Well i agree that gameplay is not for everyone's a cup of tea. Same goes for any games out there.
Horizon v Ratchet v Demon Souls Next Gen Comparison
Horizon has managed to impress despite being cross gen. I was going to compare it against Far Cry 6 and Dying Light 2, both were revealed yesterday, both are cross gen, but it wasn't even close. Comparing it to next gen only games like Demon Souls and Ratchet seemed fair. Close up detail...
kyliethicc
Member
Visually, on PS5, its next gen (almost by definition). Great visual fidelity, great audio fidelity.
But the game design is last gen. PS4 Jaguar CPU, 5 GB RAM, HDD, etc.
But the game design is last gen. PS4 Jaguar CPU, 5 GB RAM, HDD, etc.
BlackGauna
Member
The one thing I really hate is the clipping of her hair in some scenes. With the much stronger cpu they should be able to have some better collision decetion on her hair strands.
Apart from that it looks really nice.
Apart from that it looks really nice.
Negotiator101
Member
I thought facial modelling and animation is definitely rooted in last gen, it's worse than TLOU2 for sure. Actual environments and density of foliage is getting somewhere near next gen but then not all foliage is reacting to the player. Overall though its very impressive and a first generation PS5 game, they will get considerably better.
VN1X
Banned
I think the majority of GAF (or at least the vocal minority?) needs some actual help as far as their eyesight goes. That or I've been tricked and this forum is actually just full of Zoomers who have no clue where this medium came from. Like I've seen people on here claim that FC6 looks *bad* or that Forbidden West looks "last gen". Yeah sure, Jan.
I'm actually amazed people can be this reductive and thick when it comes to current videogame visuals. Boggles the mind.
I guess being a graphicswhore was a lot easier back in the old days when there were distinct visual differences between certain games and new techniques being implemented were instantly recognizable as well. Oh well... I will pray for you.
I'm actually amazed people can be this reductive and thick when it comes to current videogame visuals. Boggles the mind.
I guess being a graphicswhore was a lot easier back in the old days when there were distinct visual differences between certain games and new techniques being implemented were instantly recognizable as well. Oh well... I will pray for you.
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MightySquirrel
Banned
I like how cartoony and colorful it looks, brilliant overall really, but It does look last gen as in theres zero new rendering techniques employed. [no RT, GI etc etc]
Hobbygaming
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Just kidding bro but I agree 
Pantz
Member
Some of each.
There's enough detail and new stuff to make it next-gen. Still, much of it looks like the last game. Like if they took the time to make a PS5 version of the first game it would be pretty close in some ways but still lacking in others.
It looks really good but I was hoping to be more blown away like when seeing the first game.
There's enough detail and new stuff to make it next-gen. Still, much of it looks like the last game. Like if they took the time to make a PS5 version of the first game it would be pretty close in some ways but still lacking in others.
It looks really good but I was hoping to be more blown away like when seeing the first game.
Hobbygaming
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They knew the visuals and gameplay looks so phenomenal that it wouldn't matter and they were right
Hawking Radiation
Member
I wonder if those who voted this looks like current gen did so with a straight face. Or they need to book an appointment with an optometrist.Let your eyes decide without compression bullshit from youtube:
It doesn't look photorealistic, just like most Sony's game. Art style is dominant in the game. Still expecting more few years from now though, and expecting GOW:R to look better.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Most of them are PC/Xbox gamers, they don't believe so but it's too bitter for them to accept its greatness. Just open the votes and read the names.
Caio
Member
oh my God I have thought about that the same time you posted this
Klik
Member
Yep, Jaguar and HDD.
Venom Snake
Member
Contrary to what some people think, it doesn't look like a ps4 game for me. The improvements i see on the Forbidden West gameplay for ps5 are beyond the reach of the previous generation consoles. I will not argue with the fact that the game was created around last-gen hardware, and thus the core presentation and game mechanics won't be significantly different/improved. But the devil is in the details and this is where the ps5 version makes up for it. It's up there with games we call "next-gen" without a second thought so... Definitely yes.
Bernd Lauert
Banned
It looks... cross gen. I know, mindblowing.
Ratchet looks next gen btw.
Ratchet looks next gen btw.
Tchu-Espresso
likes mayo on everthing and can't dance
Ratchet’s graphics engine is also cross gen.
SentientStone
Member
I'm getting old, I think I need to wait for PS6 to be wowed.
Rea
Member
I don't know man, after watching this trailer and i was wondering how this is gonna stack up against the game, touted as the best looking game according to many including Digital Foundry. The Cyberpunk 2077 with full Raytracing enabled. I watch from one of the youtuber, at 4k ultra settings full ray tracing running on 3090, that game doesn't look like CGI, there are definitely instances where it looks CGI but most of the time it doesn't. Low poly models everywhere.
Don't get me wrong, it looks very nice, it look one of the best looking game with RT enabled. But it just feels like a PC game that's all.
But for HW FW case, ever since at the beginning of the scene, my jaw dropped. I was watching with 1080p streaming live. Even in gameplay everything looks and feels like CGI. Except for some pop in and some imperfections. After watching 4k upload, i went crazy. My head keep thinking, how is this game gonna run on ps4. I am so curious.
So, yeah, i don't quite understand why people think that this looks current gen/ last gen. This game and RC blew my mind.
I don't wanna derail thread and turn this into Cyberpunk vs Horizon forbidden west war, so I'll leave it at that.
Rea
Member
Yes, i know that game, some even claiming that game surpassed Demon's souls graphics. LoL.
Endless Fluff
Banned
Low res volumetrics, tons of clipping, flickering shadows, most foliage doesn’t really react, the water surface looks better than HZD but still far from the best we have seen…
HFW is as Next Gen as Miles Morales is.
Looks great, but far from next gen. It’s a game that’s made for PS4 ffs.
HFW is as Next Gen as Miles Morales is.
Looks great, but far from next gen. It’s a game that’s made for PS4 ffs.
Clintizzle
Lord of Edge.
I can't wait for all the people saying the demo looked bad to realize they were watching at 480p on YouTube.
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Even at 4K it gets heavily compressed. You can have a very nice looking sky/color gradation but when you upload it to youtube you get banding. See here you obviously see aggressive banding, but in game it's not there: (timestamped)
Game should look much cleaner natively as some fine details can even be ruined at a Youtube 4K video.
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ripeavocado
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The fact that e the question needed to be answered it’s already an answer
Josemayuste
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It looks:
DrumNBassDanTTV
Member
Next Gen without a doubt.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
You mean current gen or last gen?
Md Ray
Member
Looks nothing like ZD on a high-end PC and I've been playing ZD at max settings for the past 3-4 days so I was able to immediately pick up the improvements that were clearly apparent.
In FW, the facial animations are on a whole other level compared to ZD during cinematics. Animations, in general, are more fluid and a step above ZD, it's packed with even more dense geometry, foliage, and details than ZD at max, the lighting quality is much, much better - there's GI, the interaction with water and its animation and how it simulates is infinitely better with now added caustics, even the fabric material of the NPC we see in the beginning has received an upgrade and looks more realistic and detailed than Aloy's fabric material in the first game.
I could go on and on. HFW makes the PC version of HZD at max settings look flat and bland in comparison.
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