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Dragon Age: The Veilguard User Reviews on Metacritic Are an Abysmal 3.7/10 on Console (2.2/10 on PC)

Fess

Member
Personally I put zero stock in metacritic reviews. No accountability whatsoever on whether any of the people leaving a "review" actually played the game.
Yeah and tbh I don’t need professional reviews either. I can watch a gameplay video and quickly see if a game is for me or not. When I’m not quite sure I wishlist and buy cheap later.

And on Steam you can filter out low playtime. Go with 5 hours or more. Then filter so you only see the negative reviews and go through the top 10-20 reviews and see if the complaints are something you actually care about.
 

kiphalfton

Member
Metacritic is worthless crap from both the "professional" and user angle.

Why people still put any stock in that relic is beyond me. The fact that publishers still seem to care about it is equally confusing.

Because retarded people use it to push a narrative. That's why.
 
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Soodanim

Gold Member
Holy shit at Schrier on Twitter

'i dont actually like the game but I like seeing you chuds owned'

Holy shit, so if you dont like this game your a chud?

Whats wrong with these people?
What you inferred isn't what he said. Your outrage is your own fault. You decided that he means anyone who doesn't like it. Even without any further context for the tweet it makes more sense that he's talking about a specific subset of people, most likely review bombers or people who only focus on the Taash shit.

As you're paying attention to what he says, go back and ask him to clarify.

Side note: it's "you're". Short for "you are".
 

Ozriel

M$FT
Metacritic is worthless crap from both the "professional" and user angle.

Why people still put any stock in that relic is beyond me. The fact that publishers still seem to care about it is equally confusing.

Metacritic (actual critics side) just aggregates professional reviews. Why in the world would publishers not care about reviews, when many buyers clearly care about them?
 

Stu_Hart

Banned
People celebrating negative user metacritic reviews are hilarious. It's clear that there are tons of review bombing if you read the user reviews and there is zero proof of them playing, never mind, beating the game.
As for professional reviews, it seems that many sites give it between a 7-9. I don't trust perfect 10 reviews, sceptical of 9, but a 7 or 8 seems fair. The game is good from what I've experienced so far. I am like 7 hours through, and if this keeps up till the end consistently, it will be a 8/10 for me as well. I will be sure to update my impression once I finish it.
 
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Ivory Samoan

Gold Member
No one gives a shit about user scores.

Pushups and a few wacky ass lines aside, this is my 2nd fave Dragon Age at a good way in....Origins obviously shits on all, but this shits on Inquisition for me: that felt ramshackle as fuck, and 2 was a weird buzz all round, enjoyed it though. This feels coherant, story is solid as, world and lore are top notch which really is helped by the visuals and AMAZING score/music/sound design.

I'm moreso just angry at what they could have done, inject Origins style darkness and wit into this...damn yo, would be right up there.

Also, surely, BioWare's money guys must have known that the DEI pushed stuff would trigger the mob ( a mob I'm usually a part of, but putting my membership on hold to join the enemy and dare to enjoy this lol), maybe the people who would of pulled up the game for this were part of the last wave of firings....that would be weirdly ironic.

If this didn't have the hate, the forced bits and a good bit more darkness...500k concurrent, as it stands, 90k~ ish launch is good, but man: it could of gone bananas coming off the back of BG3/Witcher feels.
 

Kamina

Golden Boy
‘Seen’? Not even played?

My word 🤣
If you actually look at my pullet points you will see that the negative points are primarily related to dialogue and characters. I do not need to press any buttons to see that, watching several hour long Playthroughs conveys that quite well.
The actual gameplay looks fine.
Rewrite the characters / weak dialogues and patch the oversized heads and you have a mostly sold game.
 
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cormack12

Gold Member
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KiteGr

Member
The steam numbers where not bad...:
...if you exclude the fact that:
  • The early reviews where massaged, with EA cherry picking reviewers based on the likelihood of giving a positive score.
  • A veto was likely placed in access media.
  • Copies were given for free to boost the sales.
  • Unlike the other EA games, this has launched day 1 on steam.
  • It's (supposed to be) a Dragon Age game with a huge existing following.
  • The game costed many hundreds of millions to make.

IMO the game is nether the 10/10 the access media tells you, nor the 0/10 the angry mob implies. The truth is somewhere in the middle.

Here's my take from what I've seen:
  • The combat is like SE's Guardians of the Galaxy, and that means it can be good for a 8 hours game, but after that you'd wish you controlled more party members.
  • Unlike SE's Guardians of the galaxy, there's no such thing as choice. There's the illusion of choice, but you are gonna be a an all agreeing, queer loving, trans do-gooder no matter what you choose.
  • The game announced proudly that it's mature enough to have full nudity, but everything else treats you like a toddler (being indoctrinated to identity politics). The puzzles are tard level, the dialogue "Disney Marvel" level, the blood all gone, the characters can only be flat in shape and the atmosphere way to happy for a world at it's end.
  • The looks could have been another bright point, but as said above, it doesn't follow the existing lore and style. The biggest offenders are the Qunary that now look like queer boys (including the female ones).

Conclusion:
I'd say it's a 6 out of 10.
The identity politics are very much hammered and unavoidable. The writing atrocious. The combat good but lacking for this type of game. The production values sky high. And the connection with the previous games exist in name only, as they clearly wanted to do their own thing.
 
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sigmaZ

Member
Having played a bit of it:
The graphics are pretty outstanding, though the art direction is an acquired taste.
The combat controls are fine, the abilities look nice, but the combat is shallow AF. Maybe even moreso than GoW.
It is a popcorn game which has an appeal with a large portion of gamers.
I haven't seen too many cringe scenes yet, but there is a lot of millennial drivel in how characters respond to things that is cringeworthy.
I think the worst thing about the game is how on rails and Hollywood it feels.
Having played enough of such games, I'm really tired of that niche.
I'll finish it if I have time just because it's pretty, but that's about the only drive I have to play (and lesbian romance scenes perhaps).
 

EDMIX

Writes a lot, says very little
Yeah and tbh I don’t need professional reviews either. I can watch a gameplay video and quickly see if a game is for me or not. When I’m not quite sure I wishlist and buy cheap later.

And on Steam you can filter out low playtime. Go with 5 hours or more. Then filter so you only see the negative reviews and go through the top 10-20 reviews and see if the complaints are something you actually care about.

Agreed.

When you have a game with this much shit surrounding, no damn review is going to be worth it and it just makes sense to get impressions by those who played it on here or watch some of it on Youtube etc

I did that with Far Cry 5 and didn't know about all the shit surrounding it until after, I was like "ok, this person says its the best, but this other person says its the worst ever"

Looks online, sees petition, sees fake outrage lol


Annnnnd its time to head over that good ole Youtube lol

Far Cry 5 was such a great game, its one of my favorite Far Cry titles and I'm happy I didn't listen to any of the rage reviews over it, but shit thats how I felt about DA:I , I ended up liking that game much more then I thought I would and people wildly made it sound like it was just wreck or something and I ended up liking it better then the first 2


So with a game like this, I really don't honestly know. Maybe its really bad, maybe its actually really good.

Like you, I'll youtube it and get impressions from those on here playing it and will make a choice on picking it up next year when I get more time to game.


Its one of the best games I've played this year.

Give us them impressions later!
 

Mistake

Member
Dunkey isn't impressed either. Pretty obvious the writing was going to be garbage when they're trying to send a message

 

EDMIX

Writes a lot, says very little
Imagine being a kid at Christmas, You're trying to sleep on Christmas eve, the tension of opening a great game such as Elden ring, or your parents buying you Baldurs 3

Morning comes, you rush downstairs, and it's this pile of shit

You know this will happen somewhere :messenger_tears_of_joy:

Be like "WOW Morine, he doesn't fucking want a old game, kidz theses days want the latest and greatest, this game JUST came out, he will love it and say its phat, with a PH Morine"

Like...why would Eurogamer give a 5/5 if it wasn't the tits Morine? Be FOR REAL! lol


the deep lolz, I didn't know they really gave this a perfect score, to say this is the BEST bioware game, not even Dragon Age, BEST Bioware game is a wild claim
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Mostly positive Steam
Mid 80’s PSN
Mid 80’s XBL
Mid 80’s meta

The pearl clutching mob took an L on this one. At least they still killed Concord.


User reviews from sites like MC that don't need verified purchases and routinely has reddit mobs organize review bomb campaigns are the most worthless metric to gauge anything on.
 

Dr.Morris79

Member
Be like "WOW Morine, he doesn't fucking want a old game, kidz theses days want the latest and greatest, this game JUST came out, he will love it and say its phat, with a PH Morine"

Like...why would Eurogamer give a 5/5 if it wasn't the tits Morine? Be FOR REAL! lol


the deep lolz, I didn't know they really gave this a perfect score, to say this is the BEST bioware game, not even Dragon Age, BEST Bioware game is a wild claim
They'll be pulling Barvs all through boxing day :messenger_tears_of_joy:
 
Edit: not even worth putting the bigots on blast.

This is the least surprising news of the week.
Glad I read your post as I was thinking about replying, but that’s good advice… I’ve still only played the Dragon Age intro because I need to finish up a couple of other things first (Outlaws and COD campaign), but I can already tell I’m going to enjoy it.

The review bombing is ‘next level loser’ but mostly It’s just sad that people are letting their agendas get in the way of playing games they might enjoy. Outlaws is a good example, particularly because there is literally nothing in that for them to be offended about, but they get their opinions from the hive mind on whatever whackadoodle websites they are festering in.
 

Fess

Member
There are polarized views among professional reviewers as well, even within the same networks.
Eurogamer Poland 7/10.
Eurogamer UK 5/5.
IGN Brasil 7.5/10.
IGN US 9/10.
And the lowest I’ve seen, FZ Sweden 2/5.
 

Soulja

Member
There are polarized views among professional reviewers as well, even within the same networks.
Eurogamer Poland 7/10.
Eurogamer UK 5/5.
IGN Brasil 7.5/10.
IGN US 9/10.
And the lowest I’ve seen, FZ Sweden 2/5.
eurogamer really gave this 5/5? At least i know to no longer take any of their reviews seriously.
 

LMJ

Member
This thread is a scream lol

between those that condemn the game and those defending it, Woke, anti-woke, Chads/Chuds and of course the biggot and phobe insults from the usual camp this thread is this meme brought to life

Blaming Spider-Man GIF
Spider-Man Spiderverse Movie GIF by Spider-Man: Across The Spider-Verse

You can like the game and admit the writing is next level terrible...it's okay

i love Carry's Grinch, makes me smile, still can accept it's not great cinema lo
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Christmas Eve Smile GIF
 
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simpatico

Member
I think the game looks like hot shit, as in the act of pressing buttons results in boredom... let alone the terrible writing and self insterts.

But I can also see this is just silly review bombing when majority of the reviews are 0/10

none of what is in the game was hidden before launch, if a bunch of turkeys bought the game and then felt it was a 0 then i gotta say they deserve it.

This sort of play is just ammunition for the kotakus and doesn't reach the developers/publishers, men in suits.
If the story is so intentionally bad that the game itself is unplayable, a 0/10 is actually descriptive. It’s only a needed score in exceedingly rare situations like this one. The dialog is so bad that it cancels out the rest of the game. It cannot be played.
 

Soodanim

Gold Member
If the story is so intentionally bad that the game itself is unplayable, a 0/10 is actually descriptive. It’s only a needed score in exceedingly rare situations like this one. The dialog is so bad that it cancels out the rest of the game. It cannot be played.
0/10 means bottom of the barrel in all ways. A story you don't like does not make all gameplay, visuals, and audio bad, that's just being overly dramatic. No one cares about the opinion of someone being that dramatic.

I guarantee that people would take a review much more seriously if it was 3/10, giving credit where it's due but then saying the writing turned you away.

A 0/10 on anything that isn't worse than Big Rigs makes you look like a child throwing a tantrum, not a reasoned adult.
 

Ivory Samoan

Gold Member
I'm fairly certain 9/10 of the 'total trash dumpster fire, unplayable woke shit' crowd haven't played a second of it.

I think the worst this could fairly get is a 7/10, its' so polished, lore/world building is mint, it's simplistic made for total gimp brains though: but tbh, I'm here for that at the moment, it's my drop in, drop out popcorn game - Rogue Trader and Metaphor on Steamdeck use up all my frontal lobe capacity.
 

kruis

Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
I'd put more trust in user reviews from actual buyers.
 
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gow3isben

Member
I'm fairly certain 9/10 of the 'total trash dumpster fire, unplayable woke shit' crowd haven't played a second of it.

I think the worst this could fairly get is a 7/10, its' so polished, lore/world building is mint, it's simplistic made for total gimp brains though: but tbh, I'm here for that at the moment, it's my drop in, drop out popcorn game - Rogue Trader and Metaphor on Steamdeck use up all my frontal lobe capacity.

From what I’m seeing if they cut 15-20 hours of filler and repetitive fluff from the 50 hr play time it would be a very solid 30 hour game
 
Regardless of all the drama surrounding this game...the writing is embarrassingly bad from what I've seen of it.

It sounds like it was written by a 6th grader.
Yeah even without counting all the nasty stuff in it, from the videos I've seen. The writing is absolutely horrible and bad. And it's not even the so bad that it's good type from most of the B movies of the 80s and 90s that does turned out to be pretty entertaining at the end. But for this game it's just bad bad.
 

Ivory Samoan

Gold Member
From what I’m seeing if they cut 15-20 hours of filler and repetitive fluff from the 50 hr play time it would be a very solid 30 hour game
I think 30 hours is the Apex of RPG length tbh - Mass Effect 2 with all DLC and mad exploring clocks in around 30 hours total: perfection.
 

Krathoon

Member
I find it funny because it is like a cartoon Dungeons and Dragons that delivers a message. It makes me nostalgic.

It is weird because it is an M rated game.
 

Loomy

Thinks Microaggressions are Real
Game getting review bomb because you love freedom of expression, but not that kind of expression, ew. Everyone all of a sudden turning into statisticians with their nonstop steamdb/CCU refreshing.

This is gaming discourse in 2024.
 

hyperbertha

Member
I'm struggling to think of anything more pathetic than leaving a review for a game you've never played, just to annoy people on the other side of a fucking stupid political argument than you.
It works both ways. There are clowns leaving 10s. Review bombing isn't really effective.
 

welshrat

Member
Really enjoying the game. Have stopped playing now so that I can enjoy the pro upgrades at the weekend.. Base PS5 is fine though even in performance mode. Animations and the world are very nicely put together. Caught me out of nowhere this game as was not expecting much but can see myself putting a lot of time into it
 
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