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AniHawk

Member
Code: 
[b]Nintendo Gamecube[/b]           |  [b]Total[/b]  |
----------------------------+---------+
SONIC ADVENTURE 2 BATTLE    | 884,143 |
SUPER MONKEY BALL           | 486,085 |
SONIC MEGA COLLECTION       | 446,733 |
SONIC HEROES                | 382,120 |
SUPER MONKEY BALL 2         | 341,105 |
SONIC ADVENTURE DX          | 297,874 |
PHANTASY STAR ONLINE I & II | 187,673 |
NFL 2K3                     | 135,195 |
BILLY HATCHER               | 133,167 |
NBA 2K3                     |  99,301 |
SKIES OF ARCADIA LEGENDS    |  91,932 |
NBA 2K2                     |  79,545 |
HOME RUN KING               |  66,157 |
BEACH SPIKERS               |  64,235 |
SOCCER SLAM                 |  42,130 |
NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3           |  27,091 |
PHANTASY STAR ONLINE III    |  23,480 |
VIRTUA STRIKER 2002         |   9,478 |
NHL 2K3                     |   8,635 |
NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3         |   5,884 |
SAMURAI JACK                |   5,287 |
----------------------------+---------+
[b]Microsoft Xbox[/b]              |  [b]Total[/b]  | 
----------------------------+---------+
NFL 2K3                     | 287,734 |
ESPN NFL FOOTBALL           | 194,604 |
NBA 2K3                     | 182,021 |
ESPN NBA BASKETBALL         | 141,816 |
WORLD SERIES BASEBALL       | 130,440 |
HOUSE OF THE DEAD III       | 128,919 |
PANZER DRAGOON ORTA         | 122,170 |
NBA 2K2                     | 114,194 |
CRAZY TAXI 3                | 103,070 |
NFL 2K2                     |  99,632 |
NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3           |  98,586 |
JET SET RADIO FUTURE        |  97,360 |
SONIC HEROES                |  94,603 |
GUNVALKYRIE                 |  92,827 |
WORLD SERIES BASEBALL 2K3   |  84,403 |
SEGA GT 2002                |  83,656 |
NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3         |  81,746 |
TOEJAM & EARL III           |  65,079 |
NHL 2K3                     |  63,286 |
ESPN NHL HOCKEY             |  57,959 |
OTOGI: MYTH OF DEMONS       |  53,343 |
ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS          |  50,673 |
ESPN MLB BASEBALL           |  48,305 |
SEGA GT ONLINE              |  35,260 |
SOCCER SLAM                 |  29,875 | 
----------------------------+---------+
[b]Sony Playstation 2[/b]          |  [b]Total[/b]  |
----------------------------+---------+
NFL 2K3                     | 792,583 |
VIRTUA FIGHTER 4            | 620,299 |
NBA 2K2                     | 465,817 |
NBA 2K3                     | 401,932 |
NFL 2K2                     | 358,675 |
SHINOBI                     | 274,127 |
SONIC HEROES                | 215,334 |
ESPN NFL FOOTBALL           | 205,120 |
ESPN NBA BASKETBALL         | 193,394 |
VIRTUA FIGHTER 4 EVO        | 187,524 |
NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3           | 168,519 |
WORLD SERIES BASEBALL2K3    |  91,991 |
NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3         |  91,501 |
TENNIS 2K2                  |  88,185 |
ESPN NHL HOCKEY             |  82,277 |
NHL 2K3                     |  80,249 |
GUNGRAVE                    |  74,661 |
BASS FISHING DUEL           |  53,179 |
ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS          |  51,707 |
SOCCER SLAM                 |  44,917 |
AERO ELITE: COMBAT          |  27,331 |
ESPN MLB BASEBALL           |  24,337 |
REZ                         |  20,512 |
NIGHTSHADE                  |  20,434 |
KING OF ROUTE 66            |  20,404 |
FERRARI F355 CHALLENGE      |  19,040 |
SAMURAI JACK                |  10,602 |
VIRTUAL-ON MARZ             |  10,305 |
----------------------------+---------+--------+
[b]Top 10 [All-Formats][/b]        |  [b]Total[/b]  | [b]Format[/b] |
----------------------------+---------+--------+
10 SUPER MONKEY BALL 2      | 341,105 |   NGC  | 
9 NFL 2K2                   | 358,675 |   PS2  |
8 SONIC HEROES              | 382,120 |   NGC  |
7 NBA 2K3                   | 401,932 |   PS2  |
6 SONIC MEGA COLLECTION     | 446,733 |   NGC  |
5 NBA 2K2                   | 465,817 |   PS2  |
4 SUPER MONKEY BALL         | 486,085 |   NGC  |
3 VIRTUA FIGHTER 4          | 620,299 |   PS2  |
2 NFL 2K3                   | 792,583 |   PS2  |
1 SONIC ADVENTURE 2 BATTLE  | 884,143 |   NGC  |
 
S

sc0la

Unconfirmed Member
Well SEGA is one of the third party publishers GC has been uncharachteristically nice too this gen.
 
S

sc0la

Unconfirmed Member
AniHawk said:
Strange. I couldn't get it to code.
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codeblock on NEO-GAF

unless you already knew that and it just broke =/

wait what is this new php and code markup?
 
Alcibiades

Alcibiades

Member
Code: 
[b]Nintendo Gamecube[/b]	|  Total  |
------------------------+---------+
SONIC ADVENTURE 2BATTLE	| 884,143 |
SUPER MONKEY BALL	| 486,085 |
SONIC MEGA COLLECTION	| 446,733 |
SONIC HEROES		| 382,120 |
SUPER MONKEY BALL 2	| 341,105 |
SONIC ADVENTURE DX	| 297,874 |
PHANTASY STAR ON. I&II	| 187,673 |
BILLY HATCHER		| 133,167 |
SKIES OF ARCADIA LEG.	| 91,932  |
PHANTASY STAR ONLINE 3	| 23,480  |
SAMURAI JACK		| 5,287   |
------------------------+---------+
[b]Microsoft Xbox[/b]		|  Total  | 
------------------------+---------+
HOUSE OF THE DEAD III	| 128,919 |
PANZER DRAGOON ORTA	| 122,170 |
CRAZY TAXI 3		| 103,070 |
JET SET RADIO FUTURE	| 97,360  |
SONIC HEROES		| 94,603  |
GUNVALKYRIE		| 92,827  |
SEGA GT 2002		| 83,656  |
TOEJAM & EARL III	| 65,079  |
OTOGI: MYTH OF DEMONS	| 53,343  |
SEGA GT ONLINE		| 35,260  |
------------------------+---------+
[b]Playstation 2[/b]		|  Total  |
------------------------+---------+
VIRTUA FIGHTER 4	| 620,299 |
SHINOBI			| 274,127 |
SONIC HEROES		| 215,334 |
VIRTUA FIGHTER 4 EVO	| 187,524 |
GUNGRAVE		| 74,661  |
BASS FISHING DUEL	| 53,179  |
AERO ELITE: COMBAT	| 27,331  |
REZ			| 20,512  |
NIGHTSHADE		| 20,434  |
KING OF ROUTE 66	| 20,404  |
FERRARI F355 CHALLENGE	| 19,040  |
SAMURAI JACK		| 10,602  |
VIRTUAL-ON MARZ		| 10,305  |

[b]Top Ten Non-Sports Sales[/b]
1 SONIC ADVENTURE 2 BATTLE	| 884,143 | NGC |
2 VIRTUA FIGHTER 4		| 620,299 | PS2 |
3 SUPER MONKEY BALL		| 486,085 | NGC |
4 SONIC MEGA COLLECTION		| 446,733 | NGC |
5 SONIC HEROES			| 382,120 | NGC |
6 SUPER MONKEY BALL 2		| 341,105 | NGC |
7 SONIC ADVENTURE DX		| 297,874 | GCN |
8 SHINOBI			| 274,127 | PS2 |
9 SONIC HEROES			| 215,334 | PS2 |
10 PHANTASY STAR ONLINE I & II	| 187,673 | GCN |

as you can see from this modified chart (thank AniHawk for #'s'), a lot of Sega's "regular" games have done really well on GCN, and it's not just these games, it's stuff like God: DAMM, Viewtiful Joe, A Wonderful Life, etc...

I think they should put Jet Set Radio Future, Panzar Dragoon Orta, and GunValkyrie should be on GCN (now that they've got their "moneyhats", more likely in the form of endless TV ads, from Microsoft and hopefully contract exclusivity is over) regardless of how they did on XBox...
 
Alcibiades

Alcibiades

Member
Code: 
Nintendo Gamecube           |  Total  |
----------------------------+---------+
NFL 2K3                     | 135,195 |
NBA 2K3                     | 99,301 |
NBA 2K2                     | 79,545 |
HOME RUN KING              | 66,157 |
BEACH SPIKERS | 64,235 |
SOCCER SLAM | 42,130 |
NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3 | 27,091 |
VIRTUA STRIKER 2002 | 9,478 |
NHL 2K3 | 8,635 |
NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3 | 5,884 |
----------------------------+---------+
Microsoft Xbox | Total | 
----------------------------+---------+
NFL 2K3 | 287,734 |
ESPN NFL FOOTBALL | 194,604 |
NBA 2K3 | 182,021 |
ESPN NBA BASKETBALL | 141,816 |
WORLD SERIES BASEBALL | 130,440 |
NBA 2K2 | 114,194 |
NFL 2K2 | 99,632 |
NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3 | 98,586 |
WORLD SERIES BASEBALL 2K3 | 84,403 |
SEGA GT 2002 | 83,656 |
NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3 | 81,746 |
NHL 2K3 | 63,286 |
ESPN NHL HOCKEY | 57,959 |
ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS | 50,673 |
ESPN MLB BASEBALL | 48,305 |
SEGA GT ONLINE | 35,260 |
----------------------------+---------+
Playstation 2 | Total |
----------------------------+---------+
NFL 2K3 | 792,583 |
NBA 2K2 | 465,817 |
NBA 2K3 | 401,932 |
NFL 2K2 | 358,675 |
ESPN NFL FOOTBALL | 205,120 |
ESPN NBA BASKETBALL | 193,394 |
NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3 | 168,519 |
WORLD SERIES BASEBALL2K3 | 91,991 |
NCAA BASKETBALL 2K3 | 91,501 |
TENNIS 2K2 | 88,185 |
ESPN NHL HOCKEY | 82,277 |
NHL 2K3 | 80,249 |
ESPN COLLEGE HOOPS | 51,707 |
SOCCER SLAM | 44,917 |
ESPN MLB BASEBALL | 24,337 |

[b]Top Ten Sports[/b]

1 NFL 2K3		| 792,583 | PS2 |
2 NBA 2K2		| 465,817 | PS2 |
3 NBA 2K3		| 401,932 | PS2 |
4 NFL 2K2		| 358,675 | PS2 |
5 NFL 2K3		| 287,734 | XBX |
6 ESPN NFL FOOTBALL	| 205,120 | PS2 |
7 ESPN NFL FOOTBALL	| 194,604 | XBX |
8 ESPN NBA BASKETBALL	| 193,394 | PS2 |
9 NBA 2K3		| 182,021 | XBX |
10 NCAA FOOTBALL 2K3	| 168,519 | PS2 |


while their sports games have done a lot better on PS2 and XBox, the only way they will challenge the dominance of EA is to be on all systems...

having gone with the $20 price point this year, it would have been a perfect time to get back on GCN and try to get sales from budget gamers (many moms and dads buying Cubes for the kiddies)...
 
B

BuddyC

Member
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G

GhaleonEB

Member
SUPER MONKEY BALL 2 341,105

SUPER MONKEY BALL 486,085

For the love of all that is holy, Sega: Give us another Super Monkey Ball!!!

And no, the N-Gage version does not count. :(
 
M

Manders

Banned
tsc tsc

What has happened to Sega? They make some damn good games, they just don't sell. For instance, I was just playing Sonic Advance 2 on the pooper. That's a good game.
 
A

AniHawk

Member
Society said:
Japan+US = SSMB> Halo

That is not far tho, seeing as EU is Halo's second biggest region.
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I'm pretty sure on a worldwide scale, Halo and SSBM are just about even.

Halo:
Japan: 80,000
US: 3.25 million
Europe: 1 million
WW: 4.3 million

SSBM:
Japan: 1.287 million
US: 2.267 million
Europe: 800,000
WW: 4.4 million

Again, I'm completely speculating on EU for both. In the WW numbers, I pretty much rounded up though.
 
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GhaleonEB

Member
AniHawk said:
I'm pretty sure on a worldwide scale, Halo and SSBM are just about even.

Halo:
Japan: 80,000
US: 3.25 million
Europe: 1 million
WW: 4.3 million

SSBM:
Japan: 1.287 million
US: 2.267 million
Europe: 800,000
WW: 4.4 million

Again, I'm completely speculating on EU for both. In the WW numbers, I pretty much rounded up though.
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I think your Halo number is a bit low. As of the end of December, Halo had cleared four million copies worldwide on Xbox alone. (sold through to customers, not to stores - Bungie specified). Halo has sold over 400,000 copies in the US alone since then (my archive was nuked, but it's slowly being rebuilt). I'd say its world wide is closer to 4.7 million.

http://halo.bungie.org/oldnews.html?item=8519
 
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AniHawk

Member
GhaleonEB said:
I think your Halo number is a bit low. As of the end of December, Halo had cleared four million copies worldwide on Xbox alone. (sold through to customers, not to stores - Bungie specified). Halo has sold over 400,000 copies in the US alone since then (my archive was nuked, but it's slowly being rebuilt). I'd say its world wide is closer to 4.7 million.

http://halo.bungie.org/oldnews.html?item=8519
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I'll agree, but I wonder how well it's sold in Europe, or if Bungie was counting bundles.

I got 4.824 million on SSBM, and 4.8 million on Halo a second go, but I kept deleting the data, so I'll just post this.

The only wild card here is Europe. I wonder why there isn't any sort of solid number for Europe.
 
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AniHawk

Member
Tekwar said:
Sales of :

- F-Zero GX (Gamecube)
- Shenmue II (Xbox)
- Phantasy Star Online (Xbox)

??

Thx


[email protected]
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These aren't published by Sega, which is why I don't count them, but here you are:

F-Zero GX: 209,560
Shenmue II: 162,480
PSO EI&II: 65,148

Credit for the Xbox games goes to Subitai.
 
A

AniHawk

Member
MetatronM said:
Rez still managed to outsell Nightshade? Amazing.

F-Zero GX deserved MANY more sales than that.
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It just had a price drop, and shot up by over 10,000 last month. I'm guessing it might pull 300k by the end of its lifecycle at least.

And Nightshade will outsell Rez next month. Rez sold something like 64 copies in May (I'd like to know where there are stores which still sell new copies of Rez).
 
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evilromero

Member
It looks like putting Sonic Heroes on all the platforms was a smart business decision but I still can't help but feel the game suffered a lot because of it. Sega should have axed the Xbox version and just done the PS2 and GCN ones. Or even better just the GCN one. Also NFL2k3 didn't sell that bad at all. It's obvious the Cube works well for some Sega properties. Billy Hatcher didn't match the likes of Monkey Ball or Sonic, but he didn't do poorly at all. And considering he came out during a very business Fall transition period. I hope Amazing Island can get some attention before the onslaught of titles this August.
 
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AniHawk

Member
evilromero said:
It looks like putting Sonic Heroes on all the platforms was a smart business decision but I still can't help but feel the game suffered a lot because of it. Sega should have axed the Xbox version and just done the PS2 and GCN ones. Or even better just the GCN one. Also NFL2k3 didn't sell that bad at all. It's obvious the Cube works well for some Sega properties. Billy Hatcher didn't match the likes of Monkey Ball or Sonic, but he didn't do poorly at all. And considering he came out during a very business Fall transition period. I hope Amazing Island can get some attention before the onslaught of titles this August.
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Most of the game sales for NFL 2K3 happened when the price dropped due to ESPN Football's release. It was dropped to something like $9.99, and that's where about 150,000 of the sales came from.

I'd expect Sonic Heroes 2 to be on GC and PS2, if that game makes it out.
 
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evilromero

Member
I see. Cube owners will never show sports games any love, will they? I mean those NHL and NCAA sales are below pathetic. I could have launched a better campaign to encourage just the people I know to buy the games and it would've equalled those sales (most likely exceeded them). Oh well, we always have the strong graphically breathtaking futuristic racing genre covered...err...which nobody buys either. ... ... ... I guess there's Sonic. There's always room for Sonic.
 
Jumpman

Jumpman

Member
From looking at these numbers, one could make a strong argument that Sega's hardcore fans went with Gamecube this generation. However, the casual Sega fans seem to have migrated to the PS2, with the Xbox grabbing the leftovers.
 
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JasoNsider

Member
Manders said:
tsc tsc

What has happened to Sega? They make some damn good games, they just don't sell. For instance, I was just playing Sonic Advance 2 on the pooper. That's a good game.
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Sonic Team has fallen from grace faster than almost any other developer I can think of. This has been a horrible generation for them. In short, they are going to have to work much harder if they aim to please me in the future.

If it weren't for the dissapointing Monkey Ball 2, I would say that AV has been batting a thousand. F-Zero and Super Monkey Ball 1 were absolutely fantastic.
 
D

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
I think they should put Jet Set Radio Future, Panzar Dragoon Orta, and GunValkyrie should be on GCN
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1) Gunvalkyrie would not be possible on GC as it stands. The controls are too complex for the GC controller and use functions not even present on the GC pad (such as clicking of analog sticks for boosting).

2) They wouldn't really sell any better, especially since you can buy them on XBOX for under $10 a piece (and as low as $5).
 
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SyNapSe

Member
JasoNsider said:
If it weren't for the dissapointing Monkey Ball 2, I would say that AV has been batting a thousand. F-Zero and Super Monkey Ball 1 were absolutely fantastic.
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:( what did you find disappointing with Monkey Ball 2?
 
D

DaCocoBrova

Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
Wow... I don't feel bad for saying this since I turned in my Sega fan membership a couple years ago... But content-wise, Sega's games are sh!tty (w/ a few exceptions) compared to previous years.

I think it's time to bid farewell to the blue hedgehog as well.
 
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lordmrw

Member
dark10x said:
1) Gunvalkyrie would not be possible on GC as it stands. The controls are too complex for the GC controller and use functions not even present on the GC pad (such as clicking of analog sticks for boosting).
QUOTE]


I think a large part of the game not selling is because the controls were thought out very well. I can understand what they were going for, but they should have been mapped out better or just redesigned.
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Doogdogg

Member
AniHawk said:
These aren't published by Sega, which is why I don't count them, but here you are:

F-Zero GX: 209,560
Shenmue II: 162,480
PSO EI&II: 65,148

Credit for the Xbox games goes to Subitai.
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JPN F-Zero number please...
 
J

JasoNsider

Member
SyNapSe said:
:( what did you find disappointing with Monkey Ball 2?
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The game design was flawed and frankly some of the multiplayer modes fell flat on their face (why would they remove the previous Monkey Target maps?)

The single player mode in particular is just horribly designed. At one point I was really close to finishing Monkey Ball 1 on hard mode without losing a single ball, but don't even think about it in Monkey Ball 2. "Launchers" anyone? Too much luck with a huge helping of trial and error.

Funny thing is that I didn't think there would be any way to screw up a sequel to Monkey Ball. Somehow they did the impossible. Monkey Ball 1 and F-Zero are fantastic though, and are both tightly designed.
 
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clipunderground

Member
You know... for not having nearly as big of a userbase as PS2, Sega sure did well on the Cube. =)


BTW- FZERO GX/AX is the best Sega game in the last 5 years easily... :rock
 
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