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So you're saying 30fps racing games are okay in 2021? Any game for that matter? It just isn't okay.
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Forza Horizon 5 Official Announce Trailer
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MaulerX
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Derift
Member
people arent really keeping the same energy.... when it was ratchet and clank or horizon forbiden west people were very quick to jump on the framerate but now that its on there favorite box no one is mentioning the 30fps fidelity mode.... now all of a sudden its "beautiful" not to mention the lack of raytracing being abit weird....
MaulerX
Member
Exactly. I just don't get it.
Oh and for the record, the Forza Horizon 5 demo they showed at the show was actually the 60fps mode. And it looked that good.
kyoji
Member
quoted for truth, it looks great but like you said it will be interesting to see if people hold the game to the same standard as we saw in other threads with some very interesting nit picking going on. Im a big proponent on just using the good ole eyeball test so for all these ray tracing obssessed people and 60fps native 4k should be the standard tech ppl i expect the same energy.
also i stand behind forbidden west being the best looking game shown 'at e3' i wont say ratchet only because its not similar enough art direction wise to be a fair comparison otherwise its hands down the best visually appealing game out.
anthony2690
Member
Wow, some very insecure warriors have turned up.
phil_t98
#SonyToo
You can also expect powerful, all-new graphical features like HDR captures of the vibrant Mexican sky, sweeping vistas, and an unparalleled attention to detail. Available in 4K 30 FPS on the Xbox Series X (1080p 30 FPS on Xbox Series S) with an optional 60 FPS performance mode, and ray tracing added to cars in Forzavista, you will be immersed in the open world of Horizon like never before.
Forza.net: The official home of Forza
Official site for Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon gamesforzamotorsport.net
No raytracing in gameplay, even at 30fps.
GT7 so far?
And those from youtube's compressed video, not direct feed
It still look very nice, despite the aggressive pop in/out and no raytracing. It's better to wait for both games to release then compare before spouting outrageous claims, although both are kinda different with one being arcadey open-world and the other circuit sim racing. Also GT is much bigger and one of the largest, most pristine eSports in gaming.
In any case, this the the best game shown so far on their conference.
its an open world game and you comparing it to a track game. both games are doing different things, compare Gt to proper Forza
Twinguistics
Member
Graphics are nice but they were in 4 and the gameplay is pretty terrible.
Why can't they just make a racing game instead of a 'driving fun' game where no one cares if you come last and you can't even see your best lap times etc.
Such a waste.
To elaborate a little, I really tried to like 4 but there's no point in even trying to take corners well as you progress no matter what. I ended up being bored in every race. No tension, no challenge, no point
It's all style over substance but I guess that's what the kids want.
Why can't they just make a racing game instead of a 'driving fun' game where no one cares if you come last and you can't even see your best lap times etc.
Such a waste.
To elaborate a little, I really tried to like 4 but there's no point in even trying to take corners well as you progress no matter what. I ended up being bored in every race. No tension, no challenge, no point
It's all style over substance but I guess that's what the kids want.
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abel empire
Banned
Its not just having rt its hiw you use it. Putting rt on games with bad art direction doesnt fix anything
Wonder what forza engine they using now , previously they where like using new forza engine for cars. Is it part on new forza 8 engine here i wonder? They should do full realistic driving option as in real forza for people who rly love to feel cars. Gameplay demo looked very arcady in handling.
Still gonna play it no matter what just would want that more realistic option
Still gonna play it no matter what just would want that more realistic option
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Team Andromeda
Member
At last, we have a true next-gen experience from MS and a game that really shows off the Series consoles.
Can only imagine how good Turn's 10 Forza game is going to look
Brilliant showcase from a wonderful team
Can only imagine how good Turn's 10 Forza game is going to look
Brilliant showcase from a wonderful team
Darlingcognito
Member
Let me guess "Doesn't count cos it has wheels"?
gt is an closed circuit racer it compete with Forza motorsport (which will have RT) For years now the Forza series has surpassed gran turismo in terms of quality
You can also expect powerful, all-new graphical features like HDR captures of the vibrant Mexican sky, sweeping vistas, and an unparalleled attention to detail. Available in 4K 30 FPS on the Xbox Series X (1080p 30 FPS on Xbox Series S) with an optional 60 FPS performance mode, and ray tracing added to cars in Forzavista, you will be immersed in the open world of Horizon like never before.
Forza.net: The official home of Forza
Official site for Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon gamesforzamotorsport.net
No raytracing in gameplay, even at 30fps.
GT7 so far?
And those from youtube's compressed video, not direct feed
It still look very nice, despite the aggressive pop in/out and no raytracing. It's better to wait for both games to release then compare before spouting outrageous claims, although both are kinda different with one being arcadey open-world and the other circuit sim racing. Also GT is much bigger and one of the largest, most pristine eSports in gaming.
In any case, this the the best game shown so far on their conference.
it have 60 fps mode....and options are goods
eyesabitdull
Banned
NGL, that shit was pretty damn photo realistic that I was caught off guard at some instances where you see an establishing shot transition into driving the car.
I think I might get this.
I think I might get this.
jezhumphrey75
Banned
did you set the drivatars to hard?
Twinguistics
Member
It's not that it was easy, it was that there was no point to winning, or placing well. It didn't matter. I still seemingly progressed the same. It all felt utterly pointless. It's also a travesty that in a racing game you can't time trial a track and see you best times. Awful.
Robb
Gold Member
Yeah, I'm not big on car games but that shot in particular was impressive to me. When the cars started driving in to the scene I was like;The tech they use for their foliage/rocks etc is just fucking absurd.
I’m a bit fucking blind, but I legit thought this was an actual video of Mexico when they were talking about recording the 12k cloud footage for the game. It’s not. It’s in game.
Pretty cool what they can do these days.
ZywyPL
Banned
Apparently that's what people want nowadays, games with no concrete goal, without heavy emphasis on competitiveness etc., just mindlessly messing around for hours, Horizon is one of the most popular racing franchise nowadays. But luckily for people like you and me, we will be getting a full-fat next-gen-only FM8 next year.
Fess
Member
Yeah I’m in full hype mode, looks insane in so many ways. And imagine that these guys are also making Fable!The tech they use for their foliage/rocks etc is just fucking absurd.
I’m a bit fucking blind, but I legit thought this was an actual video of Mexico when they were talking about recording the 12k cloud footage for the game. It’s not. It’s in game.
Stare-Bear
Banned
So do we know if this was running on an xbox series x or a PC?
intheinbetween
Member
Yeah, I'm not big on car games but that shot in particular was impressive to me. When the cars started driving in to the scene I was like;
Pretty cool what they can do these days.
Agree, actually I thought it was just a live recording from the surrounding that was going to be transitioned into the gameplay video, just because of the animation of the water flow in the river which seemed real, so when I saw the cars driving in to the scene my jaw dropped
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we get it dude, you dont like forza's art style because its not gran turismos sterile crispy "realistic" vision
Bernd Lauert
Banned
Imagine playing a racing game at 30 fps. From my point of view that mode doesn't even exist.
Yeah yeah, Driveclub. The image quality was a bit of a mess though.
Yeah yeah, Driveclub. The image quality was a bit of a mess though.
THE DUCK
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Wait, your making me worry now......for some reason I just assumed it was the x version....
Bernd Lauert
Banned
We don't know, but my guess is PC since it's 4K footage at 60 fps.
Rolla
Banned
You can also expect powerful, all-new graphical features like HDR captures of the vibrant Mexican sky, sweeping vistas, and an unparalleled attention to detail. Available in 4K 30 FPS on the Xbox Series X (1080p 30 FPS on Xbox Series S) with an optional 60 FPS performance mode, and ray tracing added to cars in Forzavista, you will be immersed in the open world of Horizon like never before.
Forza.net: The official home of Forza
Official site for Forza Motorsport and Forza Horizon gamesforzamotorsport.net
No raytracing in gameplay, even at 30fps.
No Ray tracing during gameplay? This has to be a typo.
must be hard do it on full open world
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Team Andromeda
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I think Mike Brown made it pretty clear it was running off the Series consoles, give the amount of time he referenced the Series console. My guess would be it was all Series X
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SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
And the environments in GT7 looked like ass comparatively, had far more pop in too.
Would have much preferred Motorsport over horizon though.
Horizons drooling 'hurrr im smashing priceless hypercar through bushes' target audience doesn't suit me in the slightest. Between that and there being no decent driving roads since everything needs to be a 12 lane super highway for 400kmh cars gets tedious and boring quick. In fact, I was turned off hard by FH3s recreation of the Great Ocean Road. One of the best driving roads the world over turned into a 17 lane highway
Fess
Member
Don’t be so negative, it’s different genres, both IPs can coexist, I’m looking forward to FM8 as well.
FH is a racing playground, arcadey, made to have fun. As a racing fan I think it’s great for the racing genre since pure arcade racing is more or less dead now, it’s a mix, not arcadey enough to be silly and not serious enough to be boring. Even though I play simulators on three screens with wheel etc I sometimes just want to sit in the sofa with the kids beside me and just do crazy things with a car without having to worry about the perfect racing line or tire wear etc. I love it!
Bernd Lauert
Banned
You're getting a next gen exclusive Forza 8 next year. Leave us zoomer casuals and our Horizon aloneAnd the environments in GT7 looked like ass comparatively, had far more pop in too.
Would have much preferred Motorsport over horizon though.
Horizons drooling 'hurrr im smashing priceless hypercar through bushes' target audience doesn't suit me in the slightest. Between that and there being no decent driving roads since everything needs to be a 12 lane super highway for 400kmh cars gets tedious and boring quick. In fact, I was turned off hard by FH3s recreation of the Great Ocean Road. One of the best driving roads the world over turned into a 17 lane highway
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy for both to exist. Just been itching for a good Forza Motorsport.You're getting a next gen exclusive Forza 8 next year. Leave us zoomer casuals and our Horizon alone
phil_t98
#SonyToo
And the environments in GT7 looked like ass comparatively, had far more pop in too.
Would have much preferred Motorsport over horizon though.
Horizons drooling 'hurrr im smashing priceless hypercar through bushes' target audience doesn't suit me in the slightest. Between that and there being no decent driving roads since everything needs to be a 12 lane super highway for 400kmh cars gets tedious and boring quick. In fact, I was turned off hard by FH3s recreation of the Great Ocean Road. One of the best driving roads the world over turned into a 17 lane highway
I think horizon the right way to go for the first racing game from in house. Let them work longer on perfecting the next forza, they really gonna have to show off next gen with that game and make it next gen only
Fox Mulder
Member
that’s why you enjoy games for what they are. It’s still a gorgeous open world sandbox with neat cars and racing. I still enjoyed it for what it is and stuff like the eliminator battle royale is fun.
There is a big jump in terms of geometry from Forza Horizon 4, which was mostly flat with an intensive use of LoD.
Twinguistics
Member
But it's not just that is more arcadey and relaxed, it's that there's no draw, no pull, no in game reason to play it at all as far as I could tell. It's boring. You might as well be watching a video of fake cars driving around.
I like arcade racers and this isn't that. It's barely even racing! It's driving to races and then having a 'race' that isn't timed or ranked or recorded and doesn't matter for progression.
Utterly boring and pointless
xrnzaaas
Member
They're making a game for everyone to enjoy and it's been working given the series explosion of popularity since FH3.
Unfortunately it's not the best game if you want a racer that rewards you for winning and being a good driver in general.
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Rolla
Banned
The Series X is more than capable spec wise.
kuncol02
Banned
But that's what many racing games were in past? What concrete goal you had in NFS2?
betrayal
Banned
I'm looking forward to FH5. Looks really good. It won't make me buy an Series X because you can play everything on a semi decent PC, but it is one of the best exclusives.
I still think that some titles should be released a bit later for PC. That would push console sales a bit.
I still think that some titles should be released a bit later for PC. That would push console sales a bit.
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Twinguistics
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But everyone can't enjoy it. I can't. I tried for eight hours and just didn't see the point after I'd had my fill of the graphics.
You can't even feel good/smug about having a dope car as you get them right from the start anyway.
I honestly don't know how to play the game and what to do in it for more than ten hours.
Talk about taking an exciting subject matter and sucking all excitement out of it
ZywyPL
Banned
I'm not negative at all, that's just the reality. I've seen dozens of examples, from 5 to 35 year olds, who are technically playing the games but actually not doing anything meaningful for hours, and, FH is one of those kind games, along with GTA5, Minecraft, Roblox etc., that's why those games exist and are so popular, because there's a massive audience who wants to be connected with other people, but not in a competitive manner. You just drive around, crash into each other, do some challenges every now and then and have fun, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it, especially with so many different titles to chose from - you want a sophisticated SP campaign, there's FM, you want robust competitive online, there's GT Sport, you want a sandbox experience, there's FH, and so on.
FatKingBallman
Banned
And people told me that i'm trolling the thread when i said there are low res textures.
It's funny that 30fps didn't trend on twitter like a certain other gameplay reveal.
Spiderman is open world and has it. Ratchet uses the same open world tech as spiderman and has it. I don't think open world matters at all.
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