Negotiator101
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It's no Iracing or Assetto for that matter.
Forza Motorsports early previews
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calistan
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Fail a dexterity check and wipe out on a corner... I've been playing too much Baldur's Gate 3.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
GTR used Handbrake Turn. It's super effective.
U n i o n 0015
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Broke down and pre-ordered the Premium Edition. The previews seem decent enough for me and I'm not playing any other racing sims at the moment.
Not sure I'm going to love that progression system. Seems like another one of T10's silly implementations, just like Homologation basically ruined FM7 for me. Hopefully, the framework of the game has been built such that they can modify it based on player feedback.
One thing I haven't heard about is timeboxed content, which worries me. I skipped FH5 because I got so sick of FH4's timeboxed cars. I really hope we're not going to see that nonsense in this iteration of Motorsport.
Not sure I'm going to love that progression system. Seems like another one of T10's silly implementations, just like Homologation basically ruined FM7 for me. Hopefully, the framework of the game has been built such that they can modify it based on player feedback.
One thing I haven't heard about is timeboxed content, which worries me. I skipped FH5 because I got so sick of FH4's timeboxed cars. I really hope we're not going to see that nonsense in this iteration of Motorsport.
Horseganador
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It is normal that they prohibit showing the replays, there are too many graphic errors, they say that everything will be solved for launch, we will see.
LostDonkey
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Negotiator101
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Make your mind up, one minute it's as hardcore as you get then you're saying oh it's not
anyway I'm wasting my time with you, carry on.
rodrigolfp
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How can you play 7 games at the same time?What does that mean, you don't think I do own an Xbox? Here you go, I bet I've played Forza games more than you. Heaven forbid we discuss them without always praising everything.
LostDonkey
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Ive never once compared it to iRacing or AC.Make your mind up, one minute it's as hardcore as you get then you're saying oh it's not
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skyfinch
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Maybe they're trying to tell us that Silent Hill 2 remake is coming to Xbox...what with all those Pyramid Head references.It is normal that they prohibit showing the replays, there are too many graphic errors, they say that everything will be solved for launch, we will see.
//DEVIL//
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I thought they are flags.
clarky
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Hold up, your complaining about a feature not coming to a console you dont own, that was not promised in the first place?No but does owning a PC or even if I owned a Series X, would it negate what I said?(rhetorical)
Eagerly awaiting the next feature missing from a console you dont own to piss you off.
Fuck off mate. lmfao.
Elysium44
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I'm not, it's just an oddity of the way TA does its stats (they are big on stats but some of them are a bit confusing to me).
Elysium44
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I own a Series S FWIW, do you want me to take a picture of it?
clarky
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Ooops sorry pal mis read your answer my bad. Point stands though they never promised RT during races nor is it realistic to expect it the S. Your just being pissed for the sake of it.
LostDonkey
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I'm hoping there's a chance of a 1440p option at 60 with RT.
Team Andromeda
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He's just trolling for the sake of it.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
There's already a Performance RT option, no ? The description says it has variable resolution, so it may be both north and south of 1440p depending on load.
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CeeJay
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Can't wait for the new FM! It's pretty easy to burn yourself out on Forza (especially last gen) but i'm ready or this one. I completely skipped FM7 and only played a little FH4 and FH5.
Does anyone know if you gain the same progress on the cars in multiplayer or is it just in career? I much prefer to race against real people than AI
Does anyone know if you gain the same progress on the cars in multiplayer or is it just in career? I much prefer to race against real people than AI
clarky
Gold Member
Yup game looks great.
Horizon isnt my bag, but this certainly is.
After GT7 disappointing me( dont play online) then hopefully this sctratches the single player itch.
He prior says that T10 has told him there are improvements to the AI for the final game.
Regarding the preview build, as you say, it is quite critical as it generally is for all games. In fact, his final sentence is:
"Even so, the AI that we have tested in this FM build is not as bad as the GT7 AI..... although that is not the best mirror that anyone should look at..."
This way people can get an idea of their critical level in terms of rivals' AI.
Then, I worried about the situation of the replays. Seeing some comments from previews, gameplay scenes and camera cuts, it would seem that a step would had been taken. They have technical space to offer replays that are worth seeing since these could be at 30fps and 4K DRS and loaded with effects and television shots.
Nobody expects excellence from PD replays for their GTs, but it is time for T10 to get serious in that aspect because it is one of the aspects that most attracts the attention of casual people, it highlights the work in graphics and visuals and is an incentive for the player himself.
We will have to wait until the final game to know this aspect unfortunately...
Team Andromeda
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The game looks amazing and Turn 10 has delivered on the Ray Tracing promise which is a brilliant technical achievement
It's about time Xbox used the power of the Series X
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Series S and Series X specs and visual features via DF.
Got to love darkmage liking your post gaslighting the guy for expecting raytracing on his 4tf box because of that PR tweet when he was liking posts like this in the past.
Use the PR when it's posted to claim something positive for Series S then pretend it's the people who were convinced that are idiots when it's not true. Perfect.
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LostDonkey
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There's already a Performance RT option, no ? The description says it has variable resolution, so it may be both north and south of 1440p depending on load.
Yeah. I play my series X on a 1440p monitor so I'm hoping it will know that and not try and shoot for 4k?
It will shoot for 4k and downscale.
LostDonkey
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Even if I untick the allow 4K in the system settings?
Hmm not sure about that setting but the games that have a specific mode even if it is variable resolution usually render at the resolution cap (4k here) and downscale regardless of native screen res.
If the replays weren't ready in that build and Turn 10 asked not to show or discuss them in that state, he most certainly wouldn't have said anything.
Raytracing is present on Series S, but not on track. The post you cite does not say RT on track. Neither does the tweet in question.
I certainly don't believe YOU thought it'd be 60fps with RT on Series S.
Slicker than your average
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If it's not, we know who to blame.
clarky
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O no! pre order cancelled thank fuck your source came through. Cheers.
I mean that's a great out and all but it's only clear in hindsight. I knew it wouldn't be but the likes of Riky and co were convincing others it would based on that tweet as confirmation. Not even the 30fps mode has raytracing on the Series S by the way.
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LostDonkey
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Wait. Dynamic resolution on every setting on series X?
HeisenbergFX4
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clarky
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Its becoming pretty obvious all 3 consoles this gen are very underwhelming. Ive not turned on the X or the PS5 in months.
PC is the way to go this gen if you can afford it imo.
Cant wait to push this title to max settings.
N0S
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StreetsofBeige
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Performance or Performance RT are the no brainer choices. Playing a racing game at 30 fps is something from the 360/PS3 days and before that.
Just comes down to how good the RT is vs. worse visuals/res.
Just comes down to how good the RT is vs. worse visuals/res.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The CaRPG and the career mode progress are the most interesting things about this for me, the tech and performance should be expected to be good by default. It's always the staple of these car games.
ProgenitorCastle
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transformer
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From the spectrum of pure arcade to pure sim, both GT and Forza are n the middle, tilted more toward the simulation aspect. But neither is pure sim. I think it's fairly easy to go back and forth between games like this.
Neither GT7 or Forza Motorsport are hardcore sim racers. You're foolish for thinking so. They are both tilted toward simulation style, firmly more sim than not, but very far from hardcore sim racers. GT doesn't even simulate tyre pressure, neither let's you drive your cars into/out of pit lane, Forza doesn't even have manual starts (need to let the count down timer finish), you can money shift on GT and rev you engine to the moon with no damage, etc. None of this is hardcore simulation.
Team Andromeda
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If you do a hardcore sim you don't see sales as Richard Burns Rally and F355 found out. Like with many racers, there's a balance, because driving in real life is ultimately boring.
I like to see big improvements to AI mind, because its one era Codemasters is so far ahead of the crap AI see in GT and Forza games
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LokusAbriss
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Not if done right. Even a boring car and some twisty country roads will result in some fun.
A driving simulator should not be hard and unforgiving. Driving is neither hard, nore especially difficult, even on a track. The thing that changes with more grip, more power, trying to get a faster lap time or playing with higher corner speeds, is the margin for error. This should increase proportionally and not be a hindrance while using normal driving techniques.
Most road cars feel understeery and floaty on track. This is exactly what we see in most previews. You can see that good in Super GT's video. Even losing complete control of the Mustang sometimes. As in real life, when you brought the car over a thertain limit, it becomes very difficult to safely get it back again.
Team Andromeda
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Driving is boring, like so much of real life is boring. This is no doubt why many of us look to gaming to escape the real world.
You have to get the balance right, between fun and sim. I remember the outcry with F355 because it only offered one view, In real life can you drive your car from the outside?
I remember some slagging off Richard Burns because they just couldn't handle it. If you try and make a real hardcore sime the causal will reject it
I like to see real improvements with AI myself. This is an area Codemasters Gride Legends gets so right and is far ahead of the AI seen in GT7 or Forza 7
Senua
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DenchDeckard
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In what world is driving not fun?