Kvally
Member
My favorite franchises are Halo, Gears, Fable, Foza Horizon, Forza Motorsport, Avowed, Call of Duty, State of Decay, Flight Simulator and Ori.
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Forza Horizon 5 Launches April 29 on PS5 | Early Access Starts April 25 with the Premium Edition
RetroGamingUK
Member
All in on Xbox games rolling into other platforms,
Xbox fanboy from 2007:
I mean, yeah, in 2007 Xbox 360 was THE console to get. You’d have never imagined it turning out this way back then.
FalconPunch
Member
I played the game on my series x and even on pc. It's a very boring forza. Worse than Horizon 3 for sure which was and still is the best. The Mexico map just didn't do it for me and the game design is still stale. I'll pick it up if they release a physical version or digitally on sale.
Hollowpoint5557
A Fucking Idiot
For those of you playing it now just a heads up that the update released today is broken and hold off on doing any of the playlist until it's fixed.
Unknown Soldier
Member
I am legit interested in seeing how Forza performs on a console platform that has had an 800 lb gorilla named Gran Turismo for decades
Embearded
Member
You keep saying that.
Sony is giving some GaaS games and that's it.
You will not see their single player games on Xbox or Switch.
Stop with the mental gymnastics.
Kvally
Member
Facts are key. That’s why.
MacReady13
Member
Xbox always was and always will be a console. It is NOT a producer of games.Publisher is Microsoft Corporation on PS5.
On Xbox and Steam it was Xbox Game Studios.
Either this is just their branding for PlayStation and Switch consoles, or Xbox Game Studios is about to be renamed.
hououinkyouma00
Member
Very different games. Basically the only thing they have in common are that they feature cars.
NeverYouMind
Member
LordBritish
Member
Top 50 game of all time easily, so much replayability
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Moving to MS branding makes a lot more sense than trying to prop up the Xbox sub-brand on a platform that is clearly aware of it, but uninterested.
I wouldn't jump to conclusions about them sunsetting Xbox as a brand completely just yet though, I see it more like them starting to use Microsoft for all their cross-brand publishing as it makes it seem less "desperate" for sales -for want of a better expression.
I see it more to protect Xbox, by preserving some uniqueness even though it seems likely that they will ultimately be migrating to a full multi-platform model.
Look at it this way; there's no way Sony can allow EA to run their own subscription system but deny Microsoft without being accused of being deliberately anti-competitive. Whereas, Xbox being a rival platform there's a much more clear rationale to not letting them set up shop within their proprietary ecosystem... as that's a literal trojan horse.
I wouldn't jump to conclusions about them sunsetting Xbox as a brand completely just yet though, I see it more like them starting to use Microsoft for all their cross-brand publishing as it makes it seem less "desperate" for sales -for want of a better expression.
I see it more to protect Xbox, by preserving some uniqueness even though it seems likely that they will ultimately be migrating to a full multi-platform model.
Look at it this way; there's no way Sony can allow EA to run their own subscription system but deny Microsoft without being accused of being deliberately anti-competitive. Whereas, Xbox being a rival platform there's a much more clear rationale to not letting them set up shop within their proprietary ecosystem... as that's a literal trojan horse.
Embearded
Member
What facts exactly?
Where are the facts Sony is going third party?
We agree on some GaaS, with the most successful, Helldivers 2, skipping Xbox so far.
There is nothing about their Single Player games, so where are your facts?
Kvally
Member
Are you stating that the past 4 years haven’t had some single player PS Studio games come day one multiplatform?
hououinkyouma00
Member
What are these facts you speak of and these Sony 1st party games that had Day 1 multiplatform releases?
MLB and that fucking Lego Horizon game lol. One game that is 100% not up to Sony, and the other which is highly unlikely to be up to them. Then you have a whole fucking 2 GAAS titles one of which literally died like a week after release to the point they refunded all purchases and closed the studio.
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
Probalby better than Gran Turismo. AFAIK Horizon was already way more popular than MotorSport.
Kvally
Member
Concord: Day 1 on PC and PS
Days Gone: 2021 Released on PC
Days Gone Remake/Remaster: 2025 Day 1 on PC and PS
TLOU2 Remaster: 2024 Day 1 on PC and PS
God of War 2018: 2022 Released on PC
God of War Ragnarok: 2024 Released on PC
Helldivers 1: 2015 Released on PC
Helldivers 2: 2024 Day 1 on PC and PS
Ghost of Tsushima: 2024 Released on PC
Horizon Zero Dawn Complete Edition: 2020 Released on PC
Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered: Day 1 on PC and PS
Horizon Forbidden West Complete Edition: 2024 Released on PC
The Last of Us Remaster: 2023 Released on PC
The Last of Us Part 2 Remastered: 2025 Release on PC
Lego Horizon Adventures: Day 1 on PC, PS and Switch
Spider-Man Remastered: Day 1 on PC and PS5
Spider-Man Miles Morales: 2022 Released on PC
Spider-Man 2: 2025 Released on PC
Ratch & Clank: Rift Apart: 2023 Released on PC
Returnal: 2023 Released on PC
Sackboy: A Big Adventure: 2022 Released on PC
Stellar Blade: 2025 Release on PC
Uncharted: Legacy of Theives Collection: 2022 Release on PC
Until Dawn Remake: Day 1 on PC and PS
Days Gone Remake/Remaster: Day 1 on PC and PS
Fairgame$: Day 1 on PC and PS
Marathon: Day 1 on PC, PS and Xbox
Rise of the Ronin: 2025 Release on PC
Death Stranding: 2020 Release on PC
In fact, here is the extensive list of PS5 only games from Sony's first party studios in nearly the past 5 years:
- Astrobot
- Demon's Souls
- Destruction All-Stars
- Horizon Call of the Mountain for VR
Insanemaelstrom
Member
Gt 7 has sold approximately 14million units ( https://www.gtplanet.net/gt7-highes...ed Gran Turismo Sport,GT4 — a rather fine gap.) . Horizon will sell well, but I doubt it will outsell Gt
ChorizoPicozo
Member
GT is the real driving simulator. FHorizon is arcade fun and bombastic. GT is a documentary/Drama and FHorzion is an Action movie. it should sell 10M easily
Kvally
Member
FH5 is delisted in 2 years if it’s the same as previous Horizon games. Not sure that’s good.
reinking
Gold Member
Come on. You know
hououinkyouma00
said day one. You have a good list you don't have to fake it longer.
Embearded
Member
Are you stating that MLB and Horizon lego are the kind of games that show Sony is going third party?
Let me know when Xbox gets any of the following:
God Of War
Ghost Of Tsushima
Spiderman
The Last Of Us
Uncharted
Gran Turismo
Astro bot
Demons Souls
Returnal
Horizon
Days Gone
Bloodborne
You get the idea, the kind of games that put Sony on the throne and everyone is asking them to return to.
Yet you are stuck on some GaaS, MLB and the completely irrelevant Lego Horizon.
Xbox didn't even get Concord, an arena shooter that requires high player numbers to make sense on a business level.
Topher
Identifies as young
Dude.....your post has massive errors. Day one means the day it was initially released. Always has
ChorizoPicozo
Member
That's because of licenses, right? Maybe MS will pay for those once they see how it sells on PS. Also, there are no guarantees that FH6 will be any good after key people left the studio in 2023.
So, in principle, the Forza Horizon franchise should sell as well as any top-notch PlayStation AAA first-party game. But knowing MS, they will find a way to screw this game. For starters, let's see if they put some marketing into this release
Kvally
Member
hououinkyouma00
Member
So you listed 29 games, of which 5/29 aren't even 1st party and only 5/29 released day 1 or will release day 1. Of those 5 games
5 aren't even 1st party games.
24 of them didn't release day 1.
2 of the 5 that did release day 1 aren't even out yet.
3 of those 5 aren't "SINGLE PLAYER PS STUDIO GAMES COME DAY ONE MULTIPLATFORM" and are in fact GAAS titles.
You sure spent a lot of time proving yourself wrong. Again you said 1st party, you said single player, and you said Day 1. But hey 17% is probably a passing score somewhere in the world. I'm not convinced you know what any of those words even mean at this point.
AND you padded it by stating the same games twice.
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Kvally
Member
Remakes, Remasters, GaaS and Licensed don’t count? That doesn’t leave much
Topher
Identifies as young
That's been a common narrative lately. "Sony is doing the same thing". It's not accurate. Now maybe they will one day every game will be on every platform. Can't say I have a problem with that. But right now, that's just an imaginary future that isn't reflected in the here and now.
Sony laid it out pretty clearly to stockholders last year. "Single-player, narrative focus" studios will be day one PlayStation exclusives. Live service we know will be multiplat. The "evolving, multi-genre" studios seem to be a hybrid. Hard to make out what the strategy is there, but we know Guerrilla has made one multiplat game with Lego Horizons and San Diego Studio is already there with MLB the Show. I would have thought GT would be on PC by now, but still PS5 exclusive so not sure there. Either way, PlayStation's strategy is much different from Xbox. That much is certain.
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Kvally
Member
Topher
Identifies as young
Remakes, Remasters, GaaS and Licensed don’t count? That doesn’t leave much
Don't be that guy, bro.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
EA and full price?
No thx
No thx
Kvally
Member
Yup. I have never seen them extended.
Kvally
Member
I am just stating what I see. The usual suspects (not you) don’t like it. It’s all good. They can believe what they want. It’s their forum too.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Trolling
GHG
Gold Member
Actually, it's more of a I know you response.
Did they never tell you this was what would ultimately go down?
hououinkyouma00
Member
Music/car licensing. Unfortunately this is the reason we won't ever get the better Horizon games over on PlayStation (3/4), and likewise with getting almost any racing game like PGR or older GT titles on modern platforms.
So you're wrong, dumb, and delusional? Makes sense now.
Sooner
Gold Member
Any GAME should never have his fomo bullshit anyways.
lol you guys better stop feeding that weirdo ms troll.
these guys lost whatever brain cells they had to begin with, to the insane down the drain year xbox had.
they were being fed "just 4 games" just couple months ago,
now they find themselves in "forza horizon playstation" threads. have some heart
these guys lost whatever brain cells they had to begin with, to the insane down the drain year xbox had.
they were being fed "just 4 games" just couple months ago,
now they find themselves in "forza horizon playstation" threads. have some heart
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Embearded
Member
That's been a common narrative lately. "Sony is doing the same thing". It's not accurate. Now maybe they will one day every game will be on every platform. Can't say I have a problem with that. But right now, that's just an imaginary future that isn't reflected in the here and now.
Sony laid it out pretty clearly to stockholders last year. "Single-player, narrative focus" studios will be day one PlayStation exclusives. Live service we know will be multiplat. The "evolving, multi-genre" studios seem to be a hybrid. Hard to make out what the strategy is there, but we know Guerrilla has made one multiplat game with Lego Horizons and San Diego Studio is already there with MLB the Show. I would have thought GT would be on PC by now, but still PS5 exclusive so not sure there. Either way, PlayStation's strategy is much different from Xbox. That much is certain.
Exactly, it's a completely different strategy, yet #sonytoo for some reason exists.
The competition irrelevant PC gets some games years after original release and somehow Sony too is going third party.
Kvally
for some reason its hard for you to digest, but one of them releases most if not all of their 1st party line up on competitive platforms because they made their own platform obsolete.
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
Topher
Identifies as young
Exactly, it's a completely different strategy, yet #sonytoo for some reason exists.
The competition irrelevant PC gets some games years after original release and somehow Sony too is going third party.
Yeah, and Sony has damn good reason for presenting that stuff to their stockholders. They know PlayStation is the single biggest product line at Sony Corp. Any change in strategy there that could be seen as potentially jeopardizing that segment is going to be scrutinized. And it has been, multiple times, during these stockholder sessions. Gaming is a more important segment for Sony than it is for Microsoft.
Kvally
is a good guy. I just think he is way off base here.
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kevboard
Member
It's PS5 Pro enhanced, btw.
Forza Horizon 5 on PS5 features two rendering modes to choose from: Performance (60fps) and Quality (30fps).
On PS5 Pro, the Performance mode receives increased visual fidelity, while Quality mode adds ray traced car reflections to Races and Free Roam.
Dive into the Horizon Realms on April 25!?
Experience a selection of returning Evolving Worlds in Horizon Realms; PS5 Pro graphics modes and pre-order details revealed!forza.net
I am surprised there is no performance RT mode. the RT reflections in this game are extremely lite. I can easily run this at 1440p 60fps~80fps with RT on my RTX 3060ti with slightly higher than the Series X's performance mode settings.
with PSSR, a native 1440p resolution upsampled to 4K with RT enabled would feel like a logical way to go on the Pro. The game already supports DLSS, so temporal upsampling already works with the engine.
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Sooner
Gold Member
First of all, you're claiming those as all single-player games? Second, calling "The Definitive, Remaster" as day one is funny. Third, several of those games aren't even Sony games. Finally, putting ports on PC A LOT different than putting games on Xbox.
You are really handling PlayStation killing off the Xbox console poorly. I hope you find the help you need.
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