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SLoWMoTIoN

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Will it spoil the DE of the first one if I play the second one first? I don't mean story, I mean gameplay. Will the DE feel like shit after playing the sequel?

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Not really. I enjoyed XC2 more though because of the different artstyles and better character interactions. The one thing the original did better was letting people be dicks though.
 

Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
So guys, last day of discounts, do I get Tokyo Mirage Sessions? I missed it on the Wii U, first post to answer this will convince me either way. I'm also tempted by Xenoblade Chronicles 2, but I want to play the DE of the first one first. I'm torn.
Get both! Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is excellent despite some frustrating mechanics. Third best title on Switch behind FE and Zelda. Similarly Tokyo Mirage Sessions is also top tier. It is a lighter than Xenoblade but still full of content. Personally while I found Xenoblade to be the more engrossing game I thought Tokyo Mirage Sessions was easier to just pick up and play. Xenoblade had a few frustrating mechanics that would block story progression with random meaningless non-combat ability checks. Nothing is quite as frustrating as being unable to progress through a door because nobody in party has a water affinity. Both are worth the price of admission.

If I had to pick my current top 5 games on Switch:
1. BOTW
2. Three Houses
3. Xenoblade Chronicles 2
4. Link's Awakening
5. Tokyo Mirage Sessions

TMS just edges out Smash, Animal Crossing, and Mario Odyssey for me. Still plenty of games I haven't played so that list could change.




Game looks like it has improved a bit. (gameplay wise) This is a good thing since the first game felt a bit flat for me. I might get it on the Ps4 this time around though. I hope they don't lock my favorite character behind dlc/season pass cause KOEI.

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I just bought the first one on Switch and am wondering if I should have gone with PS4 instead. Oh well.
 
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Get both! Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is excellent despite some frustrating mechanics. Third best title on Switch behind FE and Zelda. Similarly Tokyo Mirage Sessions is also top tier. It is a lighter than Xenoblade but still full of content. Personally while I found Xenoblade to be the more engrossing game I thought Tokyo Mirage Sessions was easier to just pick up and play. Xenoblade had a few frustrating mechanics that would block story progression with random meaningless non-combat ability checks. Nothing is quite as frustrating as being unable to progress through a door because nobody in party has a water affinity. Both are worth the price of admission.

If I had to pick my current top 5 games on Switch:
1. BOTW
2. Three Houses
3. Xenoblade Chronicles 2
4. Link's Awakening
5. Tokyo Mirage Sessions

TMS just edges out Smash, Animal Crossing, and Mario Odyssey for me. Still plenty of games I haven't played so that list could change.


I just bought the first one on Switch and am wondering if I should have gone with PS4 instead. Oh well.
You should have. (I also have the Switch version) Good news is the second one has turn based combat! Bad news? KOEI TECMO so expect dlc up the ass.
 

Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
🥺Remember when I posted that it was up and you said you’d blame me if you got back into physical collecting?
I realized I would feel compelled to own all games physically and would bankrupt myself trying to rebuy them all physically. Especially after I sold all my physical games to re-buy them digitally last year. I would also end up resorting to import sites for all to Japan only physical releases. C'est la vie.
 
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I realized I would feel compelled to own all games physically and would bankrupt myself trying to rebuy them all physically. Especially after I sold all my physical games to re-buy them digitally last year. I would also end up resorting to import sites for all to Japan only physical releases. C'est la vie.

I hear you. I’ve resorted to importing several games and giving LRG my money as a result. I did take advantage of some GameStop B2G1 sales on used games that came with the original artwork and cases to help save some $$$.
 

Evangelion Unit-01

Master Chief
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what the fuck
I probably should have just kept them but oh well...
I hear you. I’ve resorted to importing several games and giving LRG my money as a result. I did take advantage of some GameStop B2G1 sales on used games that came with the original artwork and cases to help save some $$$.
Yeah, I don't like being split between two mediums.


Unrelated, anyone in the market for a 512GB SD card? $500. Will throw in a 26' 3.5mm cable.
 
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-Arcadia-

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It was fine outside some retarded antagonists (and ps2 graphics heh) but that is how usually FE is. Ignore Arcadia she's a lost cause when it comes to trying new things because weeb stuff bad! But oohhhhhhhh Forstinitoh with the Avengers so sugooooi!

While fun, you can see me calling out Fortnite all season long for being basically a living ad. Because that’s what you do when the things you love take a turn for the worse.

New things are fine. BotW is a new thing that largely supplants old Zelda, but it makes sense, and is of the highest quality. FE went from one of Nintendo’s best series to something that doesn’t even resemble its former self, racing to the bottom to chase trends. When was the last time we could say that about any Nintendo game?
 
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I'd go digital if Nintendo had an actual account (on some games) and it wasn't tied to my Switch. The prices are usually the same (mostly) so I don't see the point. I only have Rev2 digitally because Capcom are cheap fucks that didn't want to put said game on a neat lil cartridge. Motherfuckers.

New things are fine.
Unpopular opinion but I'd say Zelda and Mario have become worse as a series since I actually preferred the GC/64 games for Zelda and 3D World just shits all over Odyssey IMO. Also Metroid until we get Prime 4 lol. As bad as FE has become, 3 Houses is a step in the right direction barring its many many flaws. (my posts over at the FE OT are proof of this lol) Have you actually tried the new game though? I really think you are stuck on the anti-weeb mindset for the series as a whole which is fine since I feel the same way about nu marvel shit. The best titles Nintendo has to offer are weeb games as well so meh. But then again I'm a huge JRPG guy in general yet I will call out bad JRPGs when they are shitto games.
 
While fun, you can see me calling out Fortnite all season long for being basically a living ad. Because that’s what you do when the things you love take a turn for the worse.

New things are fine. BotW is a new thing that largely supplants old Zelda, but it makes sense, and is of the highest quality. FE went from one of Nintendo’s best series to something that doesn’t even resemble its former self, racing to the bottom to chase trends. When was the last time we could say that about any Nintendo game?

That’s how I felt about DK when we got Donky Konga. They redeemed the franchise though.
 
Unpopular opinion but I'd say Zelda and Mario have become worse as a series since I actually preferred the GC/64 games for Zelda and 3D World just shits all over Odyssey IMO. Also Metroid until we get Prime 4 lol.
How much of that is guided by nostalgia? I vastly preferred the original Legend of Zelda, and A Link to the Past over any of the N64/Gamecube games. It's the same for Metroid games: Super Metroid is still my favorite. I think it's probably just nostalgia, but those SNES games are the ones I can keep going back to, and replaying.
 

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I'd go digital if Nintendo had an actual account (on some games) and it wasn't tied to my Switch. The prices are usually the same (mostly) so I don't see the point. I only have Rev2 digitally because Capcom are cheap fucks that didn't want to put said game on a neat lil cartridge. Motherfuckers.
Yeah I wish Nintendo had honest to goodness account system. I'm also foolishly banking on future back compat. I do manage to get most digital games at a good price.

What is going on in that Evangelion pic? I am not anime enough to understand.
That’s how I felt about DK when we got Donky Konga. They redeemed the franchise though.
I still have the bongos.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

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How much of that is guided by nostalgia? I vastly preferred the original Legend of Zelda, and A Link to the Past over any of the N64/Gamecube games. It's the same for Metroid games: Super Metroid is still my favorite. I think it's probably just nostalgia, but those SNES games are the ones I can keep going back to, and replaying.
Not much since my first Zelda game was the original Zelda. My favorite Mario is a 2D platformer yet I loved World. Metroid was ruined by Team Ninja and will hopefully be redeemed soon.



AC was better in the GC era as well oh hohohoho!
 

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Master Chief

-Arcadia-

Banned
Poor -Arcadia- -Arcadia- , we've been too tough on her, even though she is wrong

I'm willing to look past your poor taste in Fire Emblem. Unless Fortnite comes to Smash...then all bets are off.

It’s to be expected. It’s a console OT, shielded from outside fanboy wars that have embittered everyone, and has become a utopia for a positive discussion. A natural consequence of that is artificial boosts for games that could... really use more criticism, and negative reactions to seeing that done.

It’s a nice challenge, and I think worthy use of time, to try and establish a critical tone where one is warranted, and to, inch by inch, actually get people to talk about the positives and negatives of a first party game.

Plus, getting to call out smiley crew, is something I’ve wanted to do for a while. Similar uphill fight. But adding a small picture to a post one doesn’t like (not to be confused with a low quality one), is not an argument. On politics or gaming. It’s a way of running from confrontation, instead of meeting it head-on, or providing anything of substance in return.
 
Plus, getting to call out smiley crew, is something I’ve wanted to do for a while. Similar uphill fight. But adding a small picture to a post one doesn’t like (not to be confused with a low quality one), is not an argument. On politics or gaming. It’s a way of running from confrontation, instead of meeting it head-on, or providing anything of substance in return.
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Edit: I will never stop using GIFs. You can pry them from my cold, dead hands!
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

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Uhhhhhhh this is not about NintendoGAF is it? People have written out why they like/dislike x thing and have had convos (small and big in scale I might add). Sure we may spam a pic or two but we don't run from an argument by posting cute things. That is just an extra.

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This isn't the next gen thread
 

-Arcadia-

Banned
Unpopular opinion but I'd say Zelda and Mario have become worse as a series since I actually preferred the GC/64 games for Zelda and 3D World just shits all over Odyssey IMO. Also Metroid until we get Prime 4 lol. As bad as FE has become, 3 Houses is a step in the right direction barring its many many flaws. (my posts over at the FE OT are proof of this lol) Have you actually tried the new game though? I really think you are stuck on the anti-weeb mindset for the series as a whole which is fine since I feel the same way about nu marvel shit. The best titles Nintendo has to offer are weeb games as well so meh. But then again I'm a huge JRPG guy in general yet I will call out bad JRPGs when they are shitto games.

Sounds like a preference. Regardless of what you do or don’t prefer, you’d have to admit that those sequels are extremely well made, and appropriate for the direction of the franchise, even if different.

Yes, I am familiar with it. I would also think that my praise for BotW, would tip you off that I don’t hate anime altogether, or outside of facetious joke posts.

I do however, have no respect for the bottom-of-the-barrel influences and pop culture FE is borrowing from, here or abroad. Being imported from another country doesn’t make it more exotic or special.

That’s how I felt about DK when we got Donky Konga. They redeemed the franchise though.

Jungle Beat? This was just a music spin-off. Can understand though. I personally loved the game (it’s really well done), but some things are a touch too out there, especially when there hasn’t been a real installment in some time.

-Arcadia- -Arcadia- I understand your frustration, but NintendoGAF might not be the easiest place to implement your call to a war of words.

Eh. I have a lot of faith in Nintendo Gaf. I wouldn’t try and calmly argue, if I didn’t. It’s not frustration, btw, it’s just seeing that emote reliance is starting to hit Reddit downvote levels, which is unhealthy for the site and discussion at large.
 

Jooxed

Gold Member
Sounds like a preference. Regardless of what you do or don’t prefer, you’d have to admit that those sequels are extremely well made, and appropriate for the direction of the franchise, even if different.

Yes, I am familiar with it. I would also think that my praise for BotW, would tip you off that I don’t hate anime altogether, or outside of facetious joke posts.

I do however, have no respect for the bottom-of-the-barrel influences and pop culture FE is borrowing from, here or abroad. Being imported from another country doesn’t make it more exotic or special.



Jungle Beat? This was just a music spin-off. Can understand though. I personally loved the game (it’s really well done), but some things are a touch too out there, especially when there hasn’t been a real installment in some time.



Eh. I have a lot of faith in Nintendo Gaf. I wouldn’t try and calmly argue, if I didn’t. It’s not frustration, btw, it’s just seeing that emote reliance is starting to hit Reddit downvote levels, which is unhealthy for the site and discussion at large.

love the emote system, takes away from people that have nothing to input other than yeah, I agree or okay.

Gives more room for less bullshit and more thoughtful insights. If I have nothing to add but I agree with a post I’m going to leave an emote instead of saying yeah agreed.
 
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Eh. I have a lot of faith in Nintendo Gaf. I wouldn’t try and calmly argue, if I didn’t. It’s not frustration, btw, it’s just seeing that emote reliance is starting to hit Reddit downvote levels, which is unhealthy for the site and discussion at large.
I'll not "Like" your posts, if that's what you wish, but I would argue you're discounting a feature that I feel is extremely valuable. We're on a social board, not in a formal debate. Reactions are an easy way for users to concur or disapprove of a post. It's a way for people to show some kind of interaction or thought without making a new post.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

Unconfirmed Member
Sounds like a preference. Regardless of what you do or don’t prefer, you’d have to admit that those sequels are extremely well made, and appropriate for the direction of the franchise, even if different.

Yes, I am familiar with it. I would also think that my praise for BotW, would tip you off that I don’t hate anime altogether, or outside of facetious joke posts.

I do however, have no respect for the bottom-of-the-barrel influences and pop culture FE is borrowing from, here or abroad. Being imported from another country doesn’t make it more exotic or special.
Pokemon IMO has become worse than FE at least the latter is trying to become great again. Also I don't think you hate anime because you like Nintendo after all. :) There are countless first party Sony/FPS games that do "bottom-of-the-barrel influences and pop culture" shit. I assume you also don't fuck with those games either. Yeah preferences, people here were just teasing you it is ok to not like thing. But you can also see why people that have played the entire series are telling you why you may be a bit off on the newest title. A little bit.

love the emote system, takes away from people that have nothing to input other than yeah, I agree or okay.

gives more room for less bullshit and more thoughtful insights. If I have nothing to add butI agree with a post I’m going to leave an emote instead of saying yeah agreed.
I agree.
 

-Arcadia-

Banned
love the emote system, takes away from people that have nothing to input other than yeah, I agree or okay.

gives more room for less bullshit and more thoughtful insights. If I have nothing to add butI agree with a post I’m going to leave an emote instead of saying yeah agreed.

Which I’m not debating. Surprised that so many people missed that, but maybe I didn’t word it properly.

I’m talking about seeing a well-thought out post, but with politics or opinions you might not like, and responding with ‘:messenger_tears_of_joy:’. It’s the coward’s way out, and I think reflects poorly on the poster applying it, as a transparent attempt to socially pressure out those opinions, rather than engaging with them.
 

Jooxed

Gold Member
Which I’m not debating. Surprised that so many people missed that, but maybe I didn’t word it properly.

I’m talking about seeing a well-thought out post, but with politics or opinions you might not like, and responding with ‘:messenger_tears_of_joy:’. It’s the coward’s way out, and I think reflects poorly on the poster applying it, as a transparent attempt to socially pressure out those opinions, rather than engaging with them.

but you have to understand we do have lurkers like Shaqazooloo Shaqazooloo that don’t post much and that’s how they communicate. Love when I log on and I see his reacts that’s just how he engages.
 
I'll not "Like" your posts, if that's what you wish, but I would argue you're discounting a feature that I feel is extremely valuable. We're on a social board, not in a formal debate. Reactions are an easy way for users to concur or disapprove of a post. It's a way for people to show some kind of interaction or thought without making a new post.
Emote system removes the need for one word reeeEra style posts. Serves its purpose.




















Yikes!
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

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As ambassador of NintendoGAF, I just have to say most of us here are never ever serious about stuff except for the fact AC (original) was better than the Switch version.

Which I’m not debating. Surprised that so many people missed that, but maybe I didn’t word it properly.

I’m talking about seeing a well-thought out post, but with politics or opinions you might not like, and responding with ‘:messenger_tears_of_joy:’. It’s the coward’s way out, and I think reflects poorly on the poster applying it, as a transparent attempt to socially pressure out those opinions, rather than engaging with them.
I like to laugh at people though. Sometimes with them sometimes at them. You do it too!

It is FUN!
 
I still have the bongos.

Me too. 😬

Jungle Beat? This was just a music spin-off. Can understand though. I personally loved the game (it’s really well done), but some things are a touch too out there, especially when there hasn’t been a real installment in some time.

No, Donkey Konga came out first. DK became Nintendo’s attempt to cash in on the music fad back then. He didn’t get a legit release that generation. It was a pathetic attempt to cash in on the guitar hero craze.
 

-Arcadia-

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but you have to understand we do have lurkers like Shaqazooloo Shaqazooloo that don’t post much and that’s how they communicate. Love when I log on and I see his reacts that’s just how he engages.

No. It’s a discussion board, and there isn’t a negatively intended react for exactly that reason, straight from the person in charge, multiple times.

If your only contribution to a well-thought out post, is a laugh, because it personally upsets you, that’s trash posting. Best to not speak at all in that case. That is a generous view that ignores the various fanbase, cliques, and politics on Gaf, trying to squeeze out other perspectives by making them feel unwelcome.
 
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SLoWMoTIoN

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Furthermore at times there is nothing else to discuss outside of ignoring the post what are you gonna do?

Remember when that guy was just telling people to get fucked?

Yeah!

No, Donkey Konga came out first. DK became Nintendo’s attempt to cash in on the music fad back then. He didn’t get a legit release that generation. It was a pathetic attempt to cash in on the guitar hero craze.
We could have had a legit rhythm game too. Bastards.
 
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