Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
BitE bringing you down huh.
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BitE bringing you down huh.
That's good to hear.
Dangansona
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Yeah I never minded Zelda that much. There is more to talk about there than Destiny, PUBG, or DotA.
HappenstanceUK
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I'd still love to see Shenmue II as their next game. Its not too long and it would be nice to get a continuation from that endurance run. I've also only played a couple of hours of it myself so rather than digging my Dreamcast out it would be nice to watch Vinny slog through it instead.
AuthenticM
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This is how I feel too.
Alex, please play Kiwami. I also want Vinny to play one of the games eventually.
Infinite Justice
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Yes because we all know Dan is the bastion of good taste LOLOLOLOLOL.
Next time maybe let someone else play the game such as Alex.
More murder island is good, they need to get that chicken dinner.
Next time maybe let someone else play the game such as Alex.
MURDER
More murder island is good, they need to get that chicken dinner.
There's more to talk about in any game than PUBG, lol. I fully get why it's fun, but it's the same conversation every week, just them talking about how great it is and regurgitating the same reasons why. Other games actually have different qualities to them that can start a conversation.
For sure.
To this day, it annoys me thinking about Dan's early habit of going through the dialogue as quickly as possible. Didn't help that Alex told him to slow down multiple times, but for whatever reason, he had a ridiculously hard time listening.
Also, Dan turning out not to be a fan of the combat is pure karma. Correct me if I'm wrong, but during the early episodes it didn't sound like Dan controlling the game was set in stone, and I remember Alex offering to play a few times. He claimed the playthrough for himself, and had to suffer through it once it stopped being fun for him.
brainzelda
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These recent conversations about Persona 5 and Yakuza 0 made me realize something... Why are all Japanese games so long? Just this year we have Yakuza, Nioh, Nier, Gravity Rush 2, Persona 5, and Zelda. Last year FF15. I wonder if it's the Japanese mentality to explain everything over and over and over and over, which naturally inflates the game's length. Nothing is ever succinct or subtle in Japanese games. Maybe there's something lost in translation? Maybe Japan's affinity to dialogue-heavy stuff like RPGs and visual novels?
And I'm not saying Western games are immune to this issue, but at least there's more of an indie scene that can give us stuff like Abzu, Furi, or Inside.
And I'm not saying Western games are immune to this issue, but at least there's more of an indie scene that can give us stuff like Abzu, Furi, or Inside.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean they're all RPGs.
And it's not like western RPGs are all that short.
Botw barely has a story to explain.
Nier isn't that long. At least it's the shortest of the ones you listed. If I ignored all side content and use fast travel judiciously I can see myself finishing it well under 20 hours.
Persons 5 and Yakuza are advertised as RPG's so they have to have a long story. Nioh and Zelda don't have much of a story so that doesn't count. Japan has indies, but they usually aren't localized since they're niche. Also, I bet the atmosphere for indie games isn't the same like in the USA. It's probably harder to get a publisher for Japanese indie games.
Brad won't play any of those game but will play Mass:Effect Andromeda. Possibly even go for the platinum :S
Forgot Zelda though, we need another Bradth of the Wild
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I mean everybody loves witcher 3 and that game will take your whole life to play apparently.
Even the bigger western releases this year aren't that short. Horizon, prey, etc. etc.
Even the bigger western releases this year aren't that short. Horizon, prey, etc. etc.
We get mostly RPGs from Japan, or at least the ones that seem popularity in the West and they tend to be much longer than standard action games or platformers. The recent glut of longer games could be that the market is moving more towards hybridized games with more systems and an open world, or it could be that we are mid-gen. Probably both.
How long did it take you to beat Nier? Or I guess maybe Gravity Rush 2? I wrapped everything up in GR2 in 55hrs and I'm already sitting near 35hr on Nier.
How long did it take you to beat Nier? Or I guess maybe Gravity Rush 2? I wrapped everything up in GR2 in 55hrs and I'm already sitting near 35hr on Nier.
Took me a full month to complete the main story and most of the sidequests in the main game. Really awesome experience.
you see theres this quest in it where an asshole does bad things and you feel sympathetic for him c:
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Wait, really?
I was finished with Nier by then lol.
I'm still kinda prodding my way through GR2. I'll finish it sooner or later.
Went to play some Dota after that video went up. I had been away from it since that huge update about a year ago.
Yeah, I dont miss it. Ill stick with League. I felt like I was underwater the entire game. Everything was so slow compared to LoL.
Also - its a damn shame they still havent done a firepro quick look.
Yeah, I dont miss it. Ill stick with League. I felt like I was underwater the entire game. Everything was so slow compared to LoL.
Also - its a damn shame they still havent done a firepro quick look.
Did you skip some of the side content or am I just bad at maximizing my time?
Edit: My play times are usually on the higher end of the spectrum.
GR is like a 20h if you get everything. GR2 is a much larger game with extra side stuff to do. I did add in my dlc time (which is like 90m) and I also got the plat there which required grinding out gems.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I did about 60% of the side content from my estimations.
I also finished persona 5 in 80 hours and apparently that's unthinkably fast.
its so god damn long. I hit skellige and tried to mainline the story and it still took me another 20 hours or something
Ah...yeah I'm sitting near 75% of side content done, including one that basically has you wandering around a desert for items. I really wish
the transport function was available at the start of route b because getting from place to place becomes such a chore.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Didn't dan drop it at skellige and everybody told him he was near the end of the game?
I rushed to get fast travel in b as soon as i can. 
Dangansona
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A friend is doing a thesis on black superheroes. Are there any in games?
Didn't dan drop it at skellige and everybody told him he was near the end of the game?
I rushed to get fast travel in b as soon as i can.
dunno, its the last major area, and the story definitely starts to wrap up but it's still kind of the end of the 2nd arc. I skipped a fuckload of side quests because I was so done by that point
U hm, Prototype 2.
I rushed to get fast travel in b as soon as i can.
Yeah I should have totally done that. Some of that side content is real good tho...
fuck I was looking it up just to see if I remembered correctly
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I feel like kat from gravity rush is dark skinned, though she had more of that South East Asian complexion.
Marlow Briggs is THE superhero.
CoolBatteryCharge
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PSN Windjammers and Yakuza Kiwami out on the same day. I might have to avoid Kiwami until 2018.
brainzelda
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Yeah I definitely get what you guys are saying, but maybe I need to ask a more fundamental question about those types of games... Why does it have to be that way? Why do they have to be so long? Does Persona 5 benefit from being 100 hours? Does the Witcher 3?
I recall a conversation that Brad brought up when he finally got to Chapter 13 in FF13, where he asked why the game couldn't have just started there, and been 20 hours long. Just cut the first 30 hours.
It just seems like you wouldn't lose anything in a majority of these 50+ hour RPGs if you slice off 50% or more of the filler. Is it an expectations thing where you don't feel like you got your moneys worth if it's not 50 hours plus?
I recall a conversation that Brad brought up when he finally got to Chapter 13 in FF13, where he asked why the game couldn't have just started there, and been 20 hours long. Just cut the first 30 hours.
It just seems like you wouldn't lose anything in a majority of these 50+ hour RPGs if you slice off 50% or more of the filler. Is it an expectations thing where you don't feel like you got your moneys worth if it's not 50 hours plus?
Death Metalist
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Prototype 2, Crackdown, Mortal Kombat: Special Forces, Blade 1&2, 50 Cent: Blood on the Sand, Shadow Man & Spawn come to my mind at the moment.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I want to say Overwatch but most of the dark skin characters are villains in the story. Even the evil white chick got her skin darkened when she turned evil.
Which is kind of a fucking weird thing.
Lucio i guess.
Which is kind of a fucking weird thing.
Lucio i guess.
BreezyLimbo
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You mean widowmaker? Bruh shes purple.
Also the majority of dark skinned characters are good guys. Pharah, Ana, Symettra, Lucio.
Dangansona
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These are good guys! Thanks for the suggestions. I'll also add Wonder Black from Wonderful 101
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Mm, i guess so. I don't know what constitutes as black for Americans though. Because i would consider Symmetra as asian and pharah/ana as middle eastern.
BreezyLimbo
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Oh I thought it was a thesis on dark skinned super heroes.
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