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Greenland considers joining the United States

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President of Mexico on Gulf of America.


What the hell kind of map does she have here? What is that supposed to be, Pangea?

And what a personality on her. If she had hosted The Apprentice it would have been canceled during the first commercial break. She'd put people to sleep for 5 minutes, hit some Mickey Ds, beer, and car ads and then you'd join a rerun of Friends already in progress. Believe me.

Worse than Schwarzeneggar. Sad!

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sono

Gold Member
Gross take on why Trump wants Greenland:


Donald Trump's interest in acquiring Greenland for the United States can be attributed to several strategic, economic, and geopolitical reasons, according to various reports and analyses:

National Security:
Greenland's geographic position is critical due to its location in the Arctic, which is becoming increasingly important as climate change opens new shipping routes and access to resources. The island lies on the shortest route between North America and Europe, making it strategically significant for defense purposes. This includes the presence of the Pituffik Space Base (formerly Thule Air Base), which is vital for missile defense and space surveillance, especially in the context of potential threats from Russia or other powers.

Economic and Resource Interests:
Greenland has untapped natural resources, including oil, gas, rare earth minerals, and other minerals like uranium and iron. These resources are increasingly valuable, particularly rare earth elements used in high-tech manufacturing, electric vehicles, and renewable energy technologies. Trump's interest could be seen as a way to secure these resources, especially in light of China's dominance in global rare earth production.

Geopolitical Strategy:
The Arctic region is becoming a new frontier for international politics as ice melts, potentially opening new trade routes like the Northwest Passage and increasing the strategic maritime region known as the Greenland-Iceland-United Kingdom (GIUK) gap. Control or influence over Greenland could help the U.S. in countering the growing presence of Russia and China in the Arctic, ensuring that no hostile power gains a strategic foothold.


Historical Context:
The idea of the U.S. acquiring Greenland is not new; previous U.S. presidents have also considered or attempted to purchase Greenland for similar strategic reasons. This historical context might lend some credibility to Trump's proposal, although it has been met with skepticism and rejection by Greenland and Denmark.


Negotiation Leverage:
Some analysts suggest that Trump's proposal might also be a form of negotiation strategy or brinkmanship, aimed at securing other concessions from Denmark or Greenland, or simply to draw attention to U.S. interests in the Arctic region.

Trump's public statements and actions, including his son Donald Trump Jr.'s visit to Greenland, have been interpreted as a way to keep these discussions in the public eye and possibly pressure Denmark into some form of agreement or cooperation, although both Greenland and Denmark have firmly stated that Greenland is not for sale.

Overall, Trump's desire to control Greenland appears to be driven by a mix of security, economic, and geopolitical considerations, despite the practical challenges and political opposition to such an acquisition.
 

poppabk

Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
”The Gulf of Mexico is recognized by the UN.”

The UN should sanction us with its army then
I mean the name of anything is just what everyone agrees on. Actually not even that, it's not like Italy is actually called Italy. And we all just recently learnt that it isnt pronounced key-ev
 
Gross take on why Trump wants Greenland:


Donald Trump's interest in acquiring Greenland for the United States can be attributed to several strategic, economic, and geopolitical reasons, according to various reports and analyses:

National Security:
Greenland's geographic position is critical due to its location in the Arctic, which is becoming increasingly important as climate change opens new shipping routes and access to resources. The island lies on the shortest route between North America and Europe, making it strategically significant for defense purposes. This includes the presence of the Pituffik Space Base (formerly Thule Air Base), which is vital for missile defense and space surveillance, especially in the context of potential threats from Russia or other powers.

Economic and Resource Interests:
Greenland has untapped natural resources, including oil, gas, rare earth minerals, and other minerals like uranium and iron. These resources are increasingly valuable, particularly rare earth elements used in high-tech manufacturing, electric vehicles, and renewable energy technologies. Trump's interest could be seen as a way to secure these resources, especially in light of China's dominance in global rare earth production.

Geopolitical Strategy:
The Arctic region is becoming a new frontier for international politics as ice melts, potentially opening new trade routes like the Northwest Passage and increasing the strategic maritime region known as the Greenland-Iceland-United Kingdom (GIUK) gap. Control or influence over Greenland could help the U.S. in countering the growing presence of Russia and China in the Arctic, ensuring that no hostile power gains a strategic foothold.


Historical Context:
The idea of the U.S. acquiring Greenland is not new; previous U.S. presidents have also considered or attempted to purchase Greenland for similar strategic reasons. This historical context might lend some credibility to Trump's proposal, although it has been met with skepticism and rejection by Greenland and Denmark.


Negotiation Leverage:
Some analysts suggest that Trump's proposal might also be a form of negotiation strategy or brinkmanship, aimed at securing other concessions from Denmark or Greenland, or simply to draw attention to U.S. interests in the Arctic region.

Trump's public statements and actions, including his son Donald Trump Jr.'s visit to Greenland, have been interpreted as a way to keep these discussions in the public eye and possibly pressure Denmark into some form of agreement or cooperation, although both Greenland and Denmark have firmly stated that Greenland is not for sale.

Overall, Trump's desire to control Greenland appears to be driven by a mix of security, economic, and geopolitical considerations, despite the practical challenges and political opposition to such an acquisition.
I can rephraze that:

Musk wants to host serverfarms there.
 

Dr.Guru of Peru

played the long game
Honestly, US annexation would be pretty disastrous for any Canadian over the age of 30. Most of our cities only exist because of the border, Take that away and there's really no reason to be here. The housing market (which is most Canadian's retirement nest egg) will collapse, savings accounts will be depleted as we deal with the higher cost of living (we may make less, but right now we also pay less for most non-housing stuff), and our cities would hollow out like Detroit. It would be good for young Canadians who can seek better employment opportunities down south though.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Honestly, US annexation would be pretty disastrous for any Canadian over the age of 30. Most of our cities only exist because of the border, Take that away and there's really no reason to be here. The housing market (which is most Canadian's retirement nest egg) will collapse, savings accounts will be depleted as we deal with the higher cost of living (we may make less, but right now we also pay less for most non-housing stuff), and our cities would hollow out like Detroit. It would be good for young Canadians who can seek better employment opportunities down south though.
Your politicians took away your border a long time ago. Being cheeky, but it’s true.
 

AgatonSax

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I mean sure, America can always decide to abandon the international rule of law. Strange to knock over a game board that you already substantially control, but hey, I totally get boredom.

No matter how big you make America, still no one else gonna give a shit about The World Series, though.
 

CokeDiet

Neo Member
No, this is just demagoguery, he's feeding red meat to his base.
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Lol, so now we go "America cares the most about rights" but with huge list of exceptions and interpretations?

Prisoners shouldn't have rights? You understand that in vast majority of the world (spoiler: the standard of living is higher there than in the US) the goal of going to prison is to become a better person, not worse?
Or maybe you want to start telling me how a deeply Christian nation is perfectly fine with death sentence?
You say that as if people check in to prison on a soul searching endeavour to better their life and not that they get sent there after commiting crimes and being caught.
 
Economic and Resource Interests:
Greenland has untapped natural resources, including oil, gas, rare earth minerals, and other minerals like uranium and iron. These resources are increasingly valuable, particularly rare earth elements used in high-tech manufacturing, electric vehicles, and renewable energy technologies. Trump's interest could be seen as a way to secure these resources, especially in light of China's dominance in global rare earth production.

The resources happen to include lithium and graphite, which are critical for EV batteries.

At first, I thought this might be significant. Unfortunately though after several hours of digging, I haven't been able to find anyone in Trump's orbit who has money, influence, and an interest in EV production costs.

I'll keep looking and will report back if I'm able to connect any dots.
 
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Aces High

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Lol, so now we go "America cares the most about rights" but with huge list of exceptions and interpretations?
USA is all about 'negative freedom', which is freedom from external interference.

The US system is designed for maximum personal liberty and minimal government interference. They have minimal regulations on speech, right for gun ownership, lots of private property rights, etc.

We don't have the same rights in EU as citizens and I often look to the US and wish we could have it a little more like them.

The downside of the US system is that weaker players have a tough time against stronger players. There's a high asynchrony in opportunities. Rich people from EU go to the USA for this exact reason.

In Europe we have lots of 'positive freedom', which means the system aims to balance out things so everyone can have equal opportunities and rights.

Positive effects are universal healthcare systems, heavily subsidized university education, strong labor laws and worker protection, etc.

Super rich people often argue that these rights are communist insanity, but that's bs. These are the rights of the European people, just like right for gun ownership and freedom of speech in the USA. Taking them away is like taking away freedom of speech in the USA.

Downside of the European system is that the more individual wealth you have, the more you feel limited by the system. Want to built some stuff on your own property? Nope. Some random dude working for the government will tell you in detail why you can only do as he wants. It's a narrow corridor of freedom that offers very high personal security. I wanted to write 'golden cage' first, but I think that sounds too negative.

I think both USA and Europe can learn a thing or two from each other when it comes to rights. A perfectly balanced system in the middle would probably be the greatest nation ever.
 

DeepEnigma

Gold Member
The resources happen to include lithium and graphite, which are critical for EV batteries.

At first, I thought this might be significant. Unfortunately though after several hours of digging, I haven't been able to find anyone in Trump's orbit who has money, influence, and an interest in EV production costs.

I'll keep looking and will report back if I'm able to connect any dots.
Greenland has practically every mineral and resource in the world. From coal, to oil, precious mental and gems, uranium, etc..

They also found one of the largest lithium deposits in Washington State and Nevada / Idaho border.

 
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MikeM

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California should join Canada after this. Its absurd that the US can’t supply their own planes. Why is Canada subsidizing these fire efforts? Its disgusting how much freeloading is going on.

Hehehe
 

FunkMiller

Banned
I think both USA and Europe can learn a thing or two from each other when it comes to rights. A perfectly balanced system in the middle would probably be the greatest nation ever.

Would be good if a very young country could take the lessons learned from Europe (most notably the UK) and the US, and apply the best aspects of both systems, to create as fair, equitable and free a system of governance as possible. Would be great if someone could do th -

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DeepEnigma

Gold Member
Small government interference and oversight with less regulations

Or

Large government interference with lots of oversight and regulations

You can’t have all those socialized benefits without the latter, unfortunately the United Stars now has all the latter without the social benefits to go with it. Too many crooks have their greedy and thieving little hands in the taxpayer’s pie.
 
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AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
Super rich people often argue that these rights are communist insanity, but that's bs. These are the rights of the European people, just like right for gun ownership and freedom of speech in the USA. Taking them away is like taking away freedom of speech in the USA.

They already took away your freedom of speech. And they took your guns too so you can’t do much about what eu regulation and laws that seek to drive farmers and land owners out of business. You say something mean against them you get a knock on your door and jail time.


EDIT: I WAS OVERLY HYPERBOLIC ABOVE. I AM SORRY GENTS.
 
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RoadHazard

Gold Member
They already took away your freedom of speech. And they took your guns too so you can’t do much about what eu regulation and laws that seek to drive farmers and land owners out of business. You say something mean against them you get a knock on your door and jail time.

What country are you talking about here exactly? Surely not all of Europe, because I don't recognize this at all.
 
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Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
They already took away your freedom of speech. And they took your guns too so you can’t do much about what eu regulation and laws that seek to drive farmers and land owners out of business. You say something mean against them you get a knock on your door and jail time.
To be fair, how much chance does a modern small militia have against the modern U.S. Army? The small militias are much much much more useful against an invader in terms of guerrilla warfare and resistance which is maybe more of a reason behind the second amendment (think Switzerland and land invasions) than protecting against your government (although in those days the weaponry available to both was similar and could make more sense).

Sorry… derailing…
 
They already took away your freedom of speech. And they took your guns too so you can’t do much about what eu regulation and laws that seek to drive farmers and land owners out of business. You say something mean against them you get a knock on your door and jail time.
What the hell have you been smoking? :D
 

Ironbunny

Member
They already took away your freedom of speech. And they took your guns too so you can’t do much about what eu regulation and laws that seek to drive farmers and land owners out of business. You say something mean against them you get a knock on your door and jail time.

Where is this? Does sound like UK and UK is not in EU.
 

Zathalus

Member
They already took away your freedom of speech. And they took your guns too so you can’t do much about what eu regulation and laws that seek to drive farmers and land owners out of business. You say something mean against them you get a knock on your door and jail time.








 

FunkMiller

Banned
They already took away your freedom of speech. And they took your guns too so you can’t do much about what eu regulation and laws that seek to drive farmers and land owners out of business. You say something mean against them you get a knock on your door and jail time.

Dude. You have a warped and entirely inaccurate view of what Europe is like. It's probably best not to comment too much on foreign countries if you haven't actually been there. Certainly don't believe the stuff you see on social media.
 
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