5600 C36 is better than 5600 C40 (depending on the other timings), but keep in mind most Raptor Lake reviews used faster kits with lower latency.
They built shoddy power supplies and many were exploding. There were reports of them refusing to replace them. It's been a while since I even read about it and forget the details. I've never owned a gigabyte psu, only motherboards. But, what I do remember was at the time making the decision to just avoid the brand.
Let's discuss some ram because it is the next item i'm researching now.
Just wait until you're actually ready to purchase. Normally, each passing day makes hardware cheaper. And I'm sure the 980 Pro will go on sale again. It's been that price for at least a little over a month now. I know this just because I play with PC Partpicker as a hobby from time to time, lol.
Depends on the kind of games you are playing and fps you want.
I would just wait until you have the money to buy everything at once. You may even be able to get it even cheaper by the time you're able to build your PC since PC prices drop crazy quick.
This is a very similar build to what I'm going for. Is there a specific reason you're avoiding AMD for the CPU? The only reason I'm not considering them is because the motherboards are so expensive right now...
From what I’ve read/heard my impression is the cost to performance value is just better with intels 13th Gen over the latest amd offerings.
Doesn't look too bad, but do you need a 1200 power supply? And you can download Windows from Microsoft's website and buy a key. Don't pay $100 for Windows.
EDIT: Never mind. You're asking about the cooler. I think it's because a lot of the coolers are still missing the LGA 1700 mounting kit out of the box.
Why do i need a separate mounting thing if both the moba and cooler are lga1700 compatible??
I updated my response. I think it's because there are coolers that are still missing the mounting kit out of the box.
How can they miss the mounting if the description says lga1700 compatible?
Yeah, it's a possibility that PC Part Picker just isn't updated for that specific cooler. With that said, I know I saw a review for someone that bought an Alder Lake CPU and a high profile cooler in late October and complained that it didn't bring an LGA 1700 mounting kit out of the box. I wouldn't necessarily bank on the cooler being included and maybe that's what the site is trying to warn you about. Worst case scenario, you can always request it from the manufacturer.
After a rapid search, it looks like other people asked this on amazon and deepcool responded that the bracket is included, problem solved.
Fortunately, DDR5's gotten pretty cheap so you have lots of options. Unfortunately, latency still sucks but it is what it is, I guess. This is the one I plan on going with:
I mean, latency will absolutely affect CPU performance since it's very job driven and latency denotes how long it takes for a job to get started. However, DDR5's faster so it doesn't take as long for those jobs to finish so it kind of washes itself out.
Do you think that buying state of the art ddr4 would be a better solution for an high end build?
It looks like it's just warning you that the bios might be incompatible out if the box. Simple update fixes that.
I already knew about the firmware update, i was talking about the cooler not being compatible, but now i know that it includes the lga1700 bracket so it's not a problem anymore.
My current noctua is probably good aswell if i buy a bracket, but i just wanted a clean slate and every major piece being new.
I'm curious how you will update the BIOS since the board doesn't feature BIOS flashback.
If that means that i should attach the motherboard in another pc to upgrade the bios before using it, it is a non-problem, a specialized shop is gonna build the whole thing for me and i bet they have at least a pc where to do this stuff.
Not necessarily. I plan on going with DDR5 for my next build and that's what I recommend as well. Even though latency's worse, overall performance is actually still better than DDR4 in most if not all cases. The biggest advantage with DDR5 is that the lowest lows are actually better which help mitigate things like micro stutter.
No, the RAM itself is good. You can always pay more for higher frequencies but I don't think the price to performance ratio justifies it. The brand itself is good too. I have an AIO cooler and power supply from them and have found them to be high quality.Is the ram we both want to buy considered at least decent? I really don't wanna have a top cpu and gpu with tje ram bottlenecking something...
Leonidas can you explain the bios thing please, is it a problem or a non-problem if i'm not the one building the pc?!
Thanks.
Last question since you are so kind, do you have anything to say against this motherboard for the ram we both chose and a 13600k\high end gpu THAT ARE NOT GONNA BE OVERCLOCKED AT ALL.
www.asus.com
No, that's a great motherboard. I personally think Asus has the best customer support out of all the vendors or at least that's been my personal experience. The motherboard has a nice VRM heatsink too which will prevent any throttling on the CPU side. Is there a specific reason you're choosing a Z690 chipset instead of Z790? That'll work just fine but it sounds like money's no object to you so I'd just go for the latest one. Of course, if you're just going to be gaming and not doing anything outside of that, then it really doesn't matter.
Last question since you are so kind, do you have anything to say against this motherboard for the ram we both chose and a 13600k\high end gpu THAT ARE NOT GONNA BE OVERCLOCKED AT ALL.
(Excuse the screaming but that is an important detail i think)
PRIME Z690-P WIFI｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global
ASUS Prime series is expertly engineered to unleash the full potential of AMD and Intel processors. Boasting a robust power design, comprehensive cooling solutions and intelligent tuning options, Prime series motherboards provide daily users and DIY PC builders a range of performance tuning...
Of note, there have been some limited reports of issues with Z690 boards and the 13 series - Seems to be just Asus?
www.hardwaretimes.com
GymWolf
if you're sticking with Asus, get a Z790 just to be safe yeah?
Because from what i studied, the z790 has very negligeable benefits over z690 and they cost like a fucking lung on the black market.
I searched a lot on yt and most people still advise for a z690 for the 13th gen since benefits on z790 are very small, never heard of that problem tbh.Of note, there have been some limited reports of issues with Z690 boards and the 13 series
Haven't found the HardwareLuxx source, nor checked whether it is resolved/easy to work around butIntel 13th Gen CPUs Facing Issues on Z690 Boards: Core i7-13700KF 48% Slower than the 12700K on the ASUS TUF Z690 | Hardware Times
The 13th Gen Core processors continue to face various issues when paired with the older Z690 motherboards, most notably on ASUS hardware. This was first reported by the editor of Hardware Luxx, according to whom the Core i9-13900K was up to 25% slower on the ASUS ROG Z690 Hero (compared to its...
Okay. That motherboard should be fine then assuming you properly flash it for the Raptor Lake processor you're getting. I'm assuming Europe has some supply issues then because you can get this ASRock Z790 here in the states for the same price:
Wow, that's surprising to me. I'd never heard of any chipset issues with the 13th gen processors via backwards compatibility.Of note, there have been some limited reports of issues with Z690 boards and the 13 series
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Haven't found the HardwareLuxx source, nor checked whether it is resolved/easy to work around but
I thought that asrock was not on the level of the big 3 msi\giga\asus.
