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I owe neoGAF an explanation since you guys helped me out

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Seriously though, Amirox is a piece of shit. He could've rationalized this by claiming he was an addict, but instead he says we shouldn't worry because he saved up for a week's worth of drugs as opposed to buying a smaller amount of drugs on a weekly basis (my interpretation). What a fuck ass

edit- Also, it was a special occasion! He wanted to make the week go by faster, wow!
 

TommyT

Member
I was quite addicted to weed ten years ago, I smoked so much all through college to the point that I developed a crazy tolerance and I could not stop smoking, more and more as time passed. All ended up with me getting crazy panic attacks, paranoia and constant fear of death. It was really bad and my family suffered because of my addiction caused by my own stupidity. After that I realized that drugs (and yeah, weed, supposedly it's not bad according to many, but even that fucked me up) are just an expensive and risky hobby to have that can really affect the lives of those around you. I decided to quit for me but specially for those who love me.

Amirox, I did not donate for your mother, but if I had I would feel really disappointed right now knowing you are going back to this frivolous drug spending and specially knowing that you seem to think it's completely normal and ok. Well, it's not ok. I think after an experience like the one you had with you going broke and your mother terminally ill, you would have learned your lesson and know that you have to be 100% ready for anything your people might need. Who knows what could be next, shit can happen twice, won't you feel stupid if you need to beg others for money again? What if one bad night you take too much and you become a vegetable? Would you be ok with the burden that would place on your family?

Really.

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Speevy

Banned
What's this about YouTube comments? Does he have a channel or something? I'd love to see that!

Every time someone links a Youtube video to this forum, a person here reads it and randomly posts something like "Amir0x sucks donkey balls" in the comments section.
 
Of course not, I'm trying to say that the rage is not in proportion to the damage done to the person spewing it. There's no way Ami's actions actually hurt nVidiot enough to warrant the relentless vitriol and if the person donating $1000 is suspicious and slightly unhappy but mostly cool about it, I don't see why someone who likely donated $0 needs to lose their shit. That's more likely about nVidiot jumping at a chance to shit on Amir0x, which in my opinion isn't any more honorable behavior than being a deceitful junkie.

Dude the fuck?

I asked questions.. I got answers.

His posts aren't nearly that clear.. he said "Since the financial aid. Not during." and I asked for clarification..I was told I "misread" for assuming he meant "during the financial aid".. you know.. reading the sentences in order and assuming he hadn't changed subjexts.

For some reason that's raging?

which in my opinion isn't any more honorable behavior than being a deceitful junkie

All I've said is he lacks perspective.. and that he's suspect..

But I'm as dishonorable and deceitful as a junky.

NeoGAF is an incredible place.
 

EliCash

Member
I respect that and that is why I wanted to post this topic.

I guess I just wasn't aware that returning to MY type of normalcy (everyone knew I did drugs, as you said) would have elicited this type of reaction. I never knew I was expected to stop doing what I have enjoyed since I was a kid once I began to start being able to save up again.

Dude, it's pretty ridiculous if you weren't aware that this reaction would happen. If blowing $400 on a drugs stash is your normalcy, then would it be fair to assume you make a fair bit of money? In which case you asked for handouts under false pretences (most who donated thought you had nothing). They didn't know you were planning a wedding, a honeymoon and a Hunter S. Thompson binge on election week. But you've acknowledged that I guess. And you should probably understand that at this stage (ignoring your history as a mod, I don't even know much about that) people have no reason to believe what you say, other than appealing to the sort of human decency that got you $10,000+ in the first place. As Evi says coming under this sort of scrutiny is a risk you run when you fundraise from strangers.
 

Biff

Member
Situation is uncomfortable. It was common knowledge that Ami has done a lot of drugs recreationally, and I accepted that and accepted the explanation that the money was going directly to Ami's mom in her name and that she had legitimate problems and so it wouldn't be relevant. That still appears to be the case.

All the same, asking for donations comes with strings. It always does. You're going to come under scrutiny and people are going to demand transparency, and, well, that's fair. A lot of people had very little to give, and were just moved by the pure sentiment of helping out Ami's mom when she was in need. "Woo drug binge time now that these donations have taken a financial burden off me" is a pretty big slap in the face to those sentiments, no matter the context.

Couldn't have said it better myself. The only difference is I didn't know he had done a lot of drugs recreationally when I donated.

There's no point in getting my kicks in anymore so let me just say this: I had typed up a long PM to Amir0x on this very subject well before this shitstorm happened. I did not have any relation to him whatsoever. I don't even think I PM'd him when he was a mod. To give the gist of the message, I told him off for being proud of spending money on drugs when I -- a student in a staggering amount of debt who doesn't drink, smoke or do any drugs whatsoever -- donated my money under the premise that the family was squeezed for every dime left in the bank (which obviously is not the case no matter how anyone may justify it).

In the end, I decided not to send it. To be honest, I was pissed off and figured the best way to "get even" was to not send a message at all. At the time during the drug thread in question, GAF seemed to be okay with it, so I figured whatever, let him continue to waste his money and life on drugs without anyone telling him how fucked up it is.

I deeply regret my choice but I'm happy that someone else had the heart to care enough to bring up how wrong his choices have been.

There have been many harsh things exchanged in this thread, but in the end I hope that Amir0x realizes this is the second time GAF is helping him out. Seriously. Would any of his real life friends tell him how worried they are about his addiction? Well, I'm guessing a few dozen strangers on the Internet just did.

That's a crazy thought when you really think about.
 

Seraphis Cain

bad gameplay lol
I will say, though (and I sincerely hope this doesn't get me banned), that I think it's pretty crazy that someone with a known and admitted problem with heavy narcotics once had the power to ban people here.
 

Dude Abides

Banned
this is an odd attitude in light of the numerous threads where gaf is held as a community. but i see you don't give a fuck (but enough to tell me that you don't give a fuck) so OK

You give just enough of a fuck to lecture people on the internet. That is some serious fuck-giving indeed.

Are you trying to do some meta thread schtick of "cool story bro?" It's a discussion forum, where a well known guy posted a frankly fascinating thread about his personal drug use and how that interacts with his plea to the same forum for money.

Any apparently you care enough to post repeatedly about how nobody should care.

People should care about where the money they donated went. They should not care that a stranger does drugs. That's the distinction I'm trying to draw but apparently it's extremely difficult to grasp.
 

Fantasmo

Member
I'm not sure how this while situation sits with me, but dude, that's not cool.
If you've ever lived with an out of control addict it isn't even touching the surface. Its actually the coolest thing one can say because years later the drug friends are long gone and the memories of those who wanted sobriety linger.


Cool you helped your mom and do what you want with your money but Amirox you're an addict get some fucking help. Its the pre election comment, dead giveaway that youre not a recreational user in he least. Only a full blown addict would say that. Use that knowledge to hide more but its fact.
 
Ridiculous. Under any circumstance. You should give people their money back before shooting up $400 worth of smack.

That's how I feel about this. If people donated money to help your mother out, and you now find yourself with money, why aren't you going out of your way to repay them? Wouldn't that be a hell of a lot more sensible than blowing $400 on drugs?

p.s. As a federal employee, you can get into a lot of trouble for that. That "I'm a civilian/contractor, so I'm untouchable" logic is false. I've fired two employees for drug use.
 
I was quite addicted to weed ten years ago, I smoked so much all through college to the point that...

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legend166

Member
Nice to see you learnt a lesson about generosity and the kindness of strangers, and tried to do something nice for some other people once you got some spare cash.

Oh wait, you spent your money on heroin and prescription pills.

I feel like this is a vitally important question - does your fiancee know that she is marrying a drug addict?
 
You give just enough of a fuck to lecture people on the internet. That is some serious fuck-giving indeed.
are we having a fucks giving competition? how am I lecturing? or are you just doubling-down on your not-giving-a-fuck posting?

People should care about where the money they donated went. They should not care that a stranger does drugs. That's the distinction I'm trying to draw but apparently it's extremely difficult to grasp.
why do you care (i mean, give a fuck) about where your money went?
 

Trey

Member
You're joking now, and maybe you just don't have experience with pain pill/oxy addicts, I don't know. The problem with addicts, and their enablers is they don't get the harm they do to others. If it was just them burning out in a blaze of glory all well and fine.

For instance, and I noticed Amirox hasn't responded to this point, if the previous fundraiser money runs dry, his parents already sold their house and whatever savings Ami claims he has runs dry, what then? Can he really come back to GAF for a fundraiser? His addiction directly effects his mothers well being in that case.

This argument, to maintain thematic consistently, must also be applied to every expense he pays in his life that doesn't directly support him and his family. Every dollar spent on something he could theoretically do without will be one more potential blow if his family again comes up short.
 
OK, so Amirox did say he continued to "do pills twice a month."



Here's where he's described this habit:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=43061933&postcount=61



So twice a month he's done 240-260mg of Oxy.

Or about 500mg per month.

Which would cost a normal person a crap-ton of money.

I don't buy his claims of how cheap he get's Oxy.

He spent hundreds a month on Oxy during this entire ordeal most likely.

And I think he's the only person on the planet who drops 250mg of Oxy on a weekend.. and then doesn't do it again for 2 weeks. That's.. nutty.

This post illustrates that he continued to do stuff and spend crazy money after the donation period ended in June and when he posted in PoliGaf about how he dropped $400 on drugs. I wonder how much of that money came from GAF?

You're a scumbag.
 

aku:jiki

Member
Whats the cutoff for someone being upset?

So I know at least 1/11 is ok. Is that the lowest you can go and call out problems?
Stop being a douche, man. I mentioned posters by name, don't try to twist that into some kind of general accusation aimed at everyone.

Dude the fuck?

I asked questions.. I got answers.

His posts aren't nearly that clear.. he said "Since the financial aid. Not during." and I asked for clarification..I was told I "misread" for assuming he meant "during the financial aid".. you know.. reading the sentences in order and assuming he hadn't changed subjexts.

For some reason that's raging?
You took the effort to search the thread for the quotes, in a petty attempt to nail Ami to the wall and even now, you're still struggling to have your point make sense even though no one agrees. So, yeah, petty and shitty and your posting style makes you come off as an angry person.
 
The $400 he used wasn't from GAF. My goodness, I am stepping away. This thread is becoming an intervention except none of you are family or friends of his IRL and none of you deserve an answer as to how/why he spent $400 on drugs.

Yeah, we should just stop trying to help someone who has a serious drug addiction that could ruin his life and the life of his family (which a lot of the posters here tried to improve by donating) in a matter of weeks. We're such assholes.
 
1. Drugs are bad, don't do drugs.

2. People who donated have no claims to be upset, he didn't put a gun to anyone's head, and he's never been dishonest about his drug use.

3. People who are just bashing Amir0x or piling onto the bashing are seriously big asshholes and make this whole GAF community look bad.
 

tmarques

Member
Hey guys, I didn't use your money to buy drugs. I just used your money so I could use my own money to buy drugs.

"And things are under control now so I didn't feel like saving those 400 bucks, but I'll be sure to come back and ask for more donations should another situation arise"

I honestly can't believe the amount of people who are ok with this.

And if you REALLY must part with that extra cash, what about helping people who are now in the situation you were six months ago?
 

Resilient

Member
Ami, you have a really bad history here but I don't think you're a terrible person. I do think you're stupid though.

I believe that your mother needed that money for her medical treatment, and GAF did a good thing donating and helping her out. I don't think GAF should be demanding retribution and money back, or video proof of your mother. Your life is yours to live etc., and I don't want to be another guy telling you that drugs are bad m'kay, but at the same time, saving that $400 up just to go on a binge was the wrong thing to do, especially for such a large amount. You say you're not an addict but everything you've done in this scenario reads like you are one. You wouldn't have spent that money on what you did unless the donation money was in and that's a big slap in the face to everybody who donated. You could have saved that money further in case future problems arose, and now that it seems you've burned that bridge with GAF, I really hope they don't come up in the future.

Instead of trying to defend your drug problem, try and see what most other posters in this thread are saying - stop doing drugs. You say you're getting married, your mother is sick and your father is working multiple jobs to support your family, all while you're off having a good time and getting fucked up. You don't think your mother or father would like to binge and have a good time with $400? They would probably love it, chances are they can't afford to though (I'm not close with the situation so these are all assumptions). Doesn't change anything though. What you did ultimately was selfish and you did it for the worst of reasons; for your own relief. Yeah you are a drug user and that may be accepted around here, and yes, it is your life to choose what you want to do. But don't be a dumb ass. Smarten up and sober up. Rather than sit here and apologise, wisen up and quit your addiction, because at the end of the day I think that's what most people here want for you.
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
Stop being a douche, man. I mentioned posters by name, don't try to twist that into some kind of general accusation aimed at everyone.
You need to take about ten seats somewhere. You are really overstepping. Your point applies to anyone who donated. You are claiming there is some mathematical equation which relates the amount you donate to what you can post in this thread. So the equation only works for nvidiot though. Terrible equation. Proceed.
 
Sure, that's fine, but he has posted before that his jobs pays decently and in this thread that he's also back to saving for his house and other things. This $400 was a separate, very specific savings.

I don't know if I'm being too trusting, but I do know that many of you are being way overreactive with the "typical junkie behaviour" accusations. Typical junkie behaviour is stealing copper and living on the street, not stashing away $50 every paycheck.

I don't think he's a typical junkie. You are right in that they don't save up for special events like this. He also at least seems self aware that he has a problem, which many junkies don't.

... but all of that only goes to make his judgement all the more worse in my eyes. If it was just "typical junkie behaviour" then i'd just chalk it up to that and move on, but it's not, and that's what makes me sad.
 
You took the effort to search the thread for the quotes, in a petty attempt to nail Ami to the wall and even now, you're still struggling to have your point make sense even though no one agrees. So, yeah, petty and shitty and your posting style makes you come off as an angry person.

Jesus christ this forum is insane. I didn't search anything. Someone else quoted the post.

Beyond that, I had a conversation with Amir0x about his drug use a month or so ago. That thread was still in my subscriptions.

He's suspect. He's an oxy addict. But go ahead.. bash me.. call me dishonorable.

And I'm petty?

I've made basically the same conclusion EvilLore did.

Good lord this place cracks me up, lol.
 
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