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[bjb]

Mahzkrieg would be the aforementioned salty OA user who started the original thread

Which is irrelevant at this juncture.

Again I would hope any decent person would -first- make the effort (at the very least) to offer repaying said donations. Particulalry before gloating or commenting about their drug binging.

Currently ive seen no evidence to suggest he has. Again theres zero proof the money didnt go towards his dealer.

For anyone thats ever had experience with drug offenders, then you will know that the real lesson here for th of rest of GAF is to never trust an addict.

The rat always finds a way to get the cheese.

 

[Wafflecakes]

If it's not about the charity, then who cares? Why do you care if some stranger on a forum is a drug addict?

....it wouldn't matter who it was. Even if I just met the person. I lost people close to me and I would say the same things no matter the situation.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

This is like a GAF soap opera. He really shouldn't have made this thread.

Exactly. That is the problem with many people. They donate $1.00 and all of a sudden feel they deserve to know every bit about your life and how you spent it.

Ami, just stop. You're making this worse by answering the questions.

To those of you who are complaining and basically performing an inquisition, stop it. I'd venture to guess that many of you didn't even donate money to Amirox or his mother so you really don't have any valid reason to give him the 3rd degree. To those that did donate, you donated, nobody forced your hand. There isn't any evidence to suggest that Ami didn't use said money for his mother.

This has become a freaking witch-hunt

 

[levious]

there's no defense for this, sort out your addictions before getting married. I hope you're as open about your drug use with your fiancee.


You're not as smart as you think you are, you're not as honest as you think you are, and you certainly are not in control of your drug habit. That menu is like something out of a drug comedy/satire movie.

 

[harSon]

Uh I know that's not what he is saying

Very clearly he says the fraud happens after the transaction so...

I think he would have made a bigger splash if that were true, and on his own time at that... not wait for a thread such as this to make the complaint.

 

[FunkyMunkey]

$400 for a week's worth of illegal drugs while your family is mired in medical bills, after begging for, and receiving, money from strangers?

That's textbook addict behavior.

That's textbook scumbag behavior as well.

I donated money, and even had 1800 dollars of credit card fraud after the transaction. I don't see the fairness. Hes a drug addict, he probably used drugs, and bought a meal when he wasn't really hungry, or dropped a quarter once too.

Comparing hard drugs to not finishing a meal or dropping a quarter... amazing. Even more nonsensical than those comparing it to buying a videogame or dvd.

 

[Dude Abides]

Who cares? For one, the guy who made a thread discussing his drug use on a public forum, thus inviting discussion. Heaven forbid anyone should opine.

I don't see a thread called "let's discuss drug addiction in general" I see one about a charity drive.

 

[NinjaBoiX]

That's all I needed to hear Ami. I'm just glad that the donations all went where they were intended. Anything else is your deal.

Seriously though, it sounds like you take some serious stuff, get yourself straight man. It sounds like you have some important people in your life to look out for, make sure they don't have to look out for you.

 

[EliCash]

That's not really a great re-telling of why people are upset.

Going from begging people for money, to a $400 drug binge 6 months later.. that's the issue for me. Total lack of perspective.. and I wonder if he let people in on how well off in general he is.

The fact that he'd say $400 is "not a lot".. good lord dude.

And he's described his drug use here too.. claimed he only did 1 massive dose of Oxy a month on weekends.. and never mentioned any break he took during these hard times.

Chances are Amir0x binged on drugs consistently throughout the ordeal of begging for money.

His doses are MASSIVE.. and I didn't really buy the idea that he only did it once a month.. and here I see him mentioning a more random week where he binged to make the week a "blur"?

Perspective.. he lacks it. And from where I'm standing? I don't trust what he says about his oxy use whatsoever.

Yea I'm not sure why people are jumping on people asking questions. People were more concerned when he was editing posts as a mod, which is bizarre.

His explanations really do come from the logic of a heavy drug user, if he freed up some cash the decent thing to do would be pay people back or put it aside for future treatment. Drugs debate aside, there's still a money issue. $400 is a lot of money to many of those who donated. Even if it is months later, it raises questions about his financial situation at the time. Also, I don't know much about what he bought and I could be wrong but $400 seems like a pretty good deal (especially for someone who hadn't bought any drugs in 6 months). Seems like he has a pretty high tolerance too. So this is a regular thing, I don't think that's up for debate. There isn't really any reason why we should believe he wasn't buying shit while receiving money. I guess it can't be proved. Even if it isn't true he has to realize that the question is there.

 

[freenudemacusers]

Yeah, I'd also like to point out that it takes time to build up the tolerance to be able to do the unholy shit-ton amount of drugs in said election week. You don't just wake up and start doing grams of heroin with handfuls of oxys. There is absolutely no doubt that this has been going on for at the very least six months.

this is also true. that much stuff would kill me or put me in the hospital.

 

[Zeth]

Glad everything is ok with your mother.

Is it still possible to get Oxy with the thin green outer coating that wipes right off with some moisture? Right when I quit two years ago they were beginning mass rollouts of the new formula of Terminator pills that were almost impossible to abuse effectively. Has a workaround developed? People were tripping when they came out, microwaving them and doing crazy shit. Sorry for being really off-topic, don't imagine there's a thread for this.

 

[Foothills]

I don't see a thread called "let's discuss drug addiction in general" I see one about a charity drive.

We must not be reading the same thread, or the same OP, since if you think this doesn't invite discussion on drug use, you might need another white russian.

 

[squidyj]

I don't see a thread called "let's discuss drug addiction in general" I see one about a charity drive.

We also had a thread called Hot Girls with Ugly Guys.... I don't know if you've seen it's contents.

 

[Seanspeed]

Yours was not the haul of a recreational user. Yours was the haul of a hard drug addict. Highly unlikely you just stopped for several months and started back again with that kind of dosage.

Whether or not you've got a grudge against Amirox, its really hard to argue with this.

I get pretty damn fucked up on a 30mg Oxy. I've taken more than one, with the 2nd one taken a couple hours later after the 1st and I was basically immobile, I was so messed up. And I have a somewhat high natural tolerance for this stuff. Like, I dont feel anything off a 7.5mg vicodin, and sometimes not even off 2. To be able to take 200+mg of Oxy is insane. One addict I know takes 60mg pills a few times a day. I consider that a *lot*.

And really, yea, $400 on a drug in one week is not a recreational buy, especially if you're getting a great price on them, meaning you're taking more than we're probably assuming based on the price.

 

[Amir0x]

Which is irrelevant at this juncture.

Again I would hope any decent person would -first- make the effort (at the very least) to offer repaying said donations. Particulalry before gloating or commenting about their drug binging.

Currently ive seen no evidence to suggest he has. Again theres zero proof the money didnt go towards his dealer.

For anyone thats ever had experience with drug offenders, then you will know that the real lesson here for th of rest of GAF is to never trust an addict.

The rat always finds a way to get the cheese.

Come on, man? You think my Mom is in on my supposed DRUG DEALING SCHEME to defraud neoGAF?

Think logically.

And really, yea, $400 on a drug in one week is not a recreational buy, especially if you're getting a great price on them, meaning you're taking more than we're probably assuming based on the price.

This is the first time I have spent money like this on drugs in over a YEAR. I have a "problem", but do not take this as indicative of my standard practice. I have responsibilities and a job I take very seriously, and I could not function if I was. Much less afford anything. It took me a while to save up this $400.

 

[commedieu]

That's textbook scumbag behavior as well.



Comparing hard drugs to not finishing a meal or dropping a quarter... amazing. Even more nonsensical than those comparing it to buying a videogame or dvd.

No, I'm saying that he probably still bought things outside of the money that was needed for the donation. He had a normal life going on as well, some are under the impression that every cent should have gone to his mother. The guy is an addict, people donated to him, he buys more drugs to this date.

 

[TheGreatDivide]

Every year, across the world, people suffer from Final Election Week Syndrome.

Please, if you can, sign up to today at electrionweekblues.com to help a person in need through a difficult period in their lives.

Together, we can overcome the trauma of election week.

Your money will go towards buying the best narcotics money can buy.

Thank you.

 

[Speevy]

I don't think there's anything to be gained from this thread.


If you're the sort of person who thinks charity should make someone more humble and less likely to spend frivolously, that's a deeply held belief that will not change according to what Amir0x posts.

If you're the sort of person who thinks people should have the freedom to live their own lives regardless of whatever else is happening, that's a deeply held believe that will not change according to what others post.

I can see the logic in both. However, as a practical matter, money does not have a code of ethics. It is meant to be used in exchange for goods and services.

Was Amr0x's mother helped? Yes. Sale concluded.

 

[Despera]

At least your family got a bit closer to financial stability and your mother is getting cared for. Her condition improving in the process as well, hopefully.

Regarding the other part of the story, there's nothing you could say that would justify it. That shit is for you to figure out along with your family/close friends. It's your life. Just make sure this problem doesn't extend to those close to you and end up ruining their lives.

 

[SoulPlaya]

Ami does coke, heroin, and oxy?

Damn.

 

[Arjen]

I know people who take a bunch of mdma or XTC at a party in the weekend every now and then and then continue to take care of their wife and kids. Nothing wrong with recreational drug use imo if you can control it.

 

[nVidiot_Whore]

From earlier in the thread:

But that aside, I have hardly used drugs at all since this whole situation. I drank a little, smoked a very little, and do pills twice a month.

To this post:

During this period I had stopped almost all my recreational drug activity. There were a few weekends I got pills.

So twice a month...

Or.. barely ever.. only a few weekends..

In the SAME thread this guy does this.

Clownshoes if you believe that $11k went to his mother.

 

[Dude Abides]

We must not be reading the same thread, or the same OP, since if you think this doesn't invite discussion on drug use, you might need another white russian.

I suppose it is utterly predictable that a mention of drug use will invite bluenoses to do what bluenoses do. That wasn't really the purpose of the thread, though.

 

[TheGreatDivide]

I know people who take a bunch of mdma or XTC at a party in the weekend every now and then and then continue to take care of their wife and kids. Nothing wrong with recreational drug use imo if you can control it.

Do they ask for handouts on the internet?

 

[Seanspeed]

You know what could benefit your mom the most? You getting clean and sober and being around for her. Same thing for your fiance and your marriage.

Hear hear.

 

[Amir0x]

From earlier in the thread:



To this post:



So twice a month...

Or.. barely ever.. only a few weekends..

In the SAME thread this guy does this.

Clownshoes if you believe that $11k went to his mother.

You're reading it wrong. SINCE the situation. SINCE the financial aid. Not during. During I had stopped.

But that aside, I have hardly used drugs at all since this whole situation. I drank a little, smoked a very little, and do pills twice a month.

What do you need me to do to prove that the money went to my Mom?

 

[NinjaBoiX]

I know people who take a bunch of mdma or XTC at a party in the weekend every now and then and then continue to take care of their wife and kids. Nothing wrong with recreational drug use imo if you can control it.

Yeah, your right. I'm a recreational drug user, I can control it just fine. I live within my means.

 

[j-wood]

This is just my two cents:

I get both sides on the issue here. From the majority of the posters saying "WTF amir", I think it stems from the fact that you bought $400 dollars worth of something non-essential shortly after the issue with your mother. God forbid something else go wrong, but if it does and you get in a money tight situation again, it would be very easy to look back and say that $400 could have stayed in savings for this situation.

On your side though amir, if you and your family are out of the woods and things are back to normal, then it's your money to do whatever you want with it.

 

[commedieu]

You're reading it wrong. SINCE the situation. SINCE the financial aid. Not during. During I had stopped.

What do you need me to do to prove that the money went to my Mom?

dude, get off of the computer.

Things are getting worse every time you post...

 

[DietRob]

You're reading it wrong. SINCE the situation. SINCE the financial aid. Not during. During I had stopped.

What do you need me to do to prove that the money went to my Mom?

I don't think it's about that anymore. It's about your obvious problem with opiates.

 

[Wafflecakes]

I suppose it is utterly predictable that a mention of drug use will invite bluenoses to do what bluenoses do. That wasn't really the purpose of the thread, though.

Are you fucking kidding? People who think doing Heroin, Oxy, and who knows what else are just being moral hardasses now?

I don't think it's about that anymore. It's about your obvious problem with opiates.

.

 

[EviLore]

Situation is uncomfortable. It was common knowledge that Ami has done a lot of drugs recreationally, and I accepted that and accepted the explanation that the money was going directly to Ami's mom in her name and that she had legitimate problems and so it wouldn't be relevant. That still appears to be the case.

All the same, asking for donations comes with strings. It always does. You're going to come under scrutiny and people are going to demand transparency, and, well, that's fair. A lot of people had very little to give, and were just moved by the pure sentiment of helping out Ami's mom when she was in need. "Woo drug binge time now that these donations have taken a financial burden off me" is a pretty big slap in the face to those sentiments, no matter the context.

 

[Blackace]

What do you need me to do to prove that the money went to my Mom?

I know exactly what gif is coming

 

[NinjaBoiX]

You're reading it wrong. SINCE the situation. SINCE the financial aid. Not during. During I had stopped.



What do you need me to do to prove that the money went to my Mom?

The thing is, a heavy drug user, and I think you'll agree, you're a heavy user, doesn't just turn it off like a tap, especially at a traumatic time.

I hope you did stop, it's just kind of hard to believe, sorry.

 

[Despera]

What do you need me to do to prove that the money went to my Mom?

Stop fucking replying to every single accusation for one?

What's done is done.

 

[SpartanForce]

Glad I don't do drugs.

 

[freenudemacusers]

I suppose it is utterly predictable that a mention of drug use will invite bluenoses to do what bluenoses do. That wasn't really the purpose of the thread, though.

true, 260mg weekend oxy benders are normal everyday things

 

[nVidiot_Whore]

You're reading it wrong. SINCE the situation. SINCE the financial aid. Not during. During I had stopped.

During? How many months were you collecting money from GAF?

 

[Amir0x]

This is just my two cents:

I get both sides on the issue here. From the majority of the posters saying "WTF amir", I think it stems from the fact that you bought $400 dollars worth of something non-essential shortly after the issue with your mother. God forbid something else go wrong, but if it does and you get in a money tight situation again, it would be very easy to look back and say that $400 could have stayed in savings for this situation.

On your side though amir, if you and your family are out of the woods and things are back to normal, then it's your money to do whatever you want with it.

I am still saving up for my wedding, honeymoon, etc. I saved this at $50 a clip over many paychecks.

If something happened, I would be in the same situation I was the first time... going through my savings that I had for my wedding, honeymoon, etc until I ran out.

That said, I do not think we will be there again. Since this event my Dad and Mom have made some hard choices. My Dad borrowed money out of his 401k retirement to buy a smaller home and sell the one he has, and he has reduced hours at work and has begun to live simpler. I still give them money too. None of this would have been really possible with them drowning before the fundraiser.

During? How many months were you collecting money from GAF?

More misreading. From September 11 until I asked for fundraising money, I had also stopped doing recreational drugs to help put even more money toward her care. That was before neoGAF even knew about it. So the whole ordeal was from September 11-til June 2012, when we were running out of cash fast.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I know exactly what gif is coming

It was posted earlier brother

Ami, there's always light at the end of the tunnel so I hope you come out of this a stronger person.

 

[I NEED SCISSORS]

This post is pretty selfish. Who the fuck are you to tell anyone how they should find their peace of mind?

I'm someone who is responsible enough to not casually drop $400 on drugs when there are much more pressing issues in life. It's obvious he's been through a time of great despair and stress - i'm not knocking him for that - and from the sounds of things he's sadly not out of the woods yet. I agree with Mahzkrieg in that his dad could have used that money a lot more though, or he could have set up a nest egg in case things turn sour again, or he could have even tried to get clean. He may not care what he does with his body, and that's fine, but after such a financial crisis he should at least recognize what it's doing to his wallet.

Dude shut up. Don't try and shame someone for living their lives the way they want to. Him being a heavy drug user isn't hurting you and until it's confirmed this $400 purchase hurt someone else, he's done nothing worth complaining about.

He invited our opinions when he put this out in the public space. I'm not shaming his lifestyle - if he had all the money in the world and no big issues needing dealt with, I wouldn't care. But I will absolutely shame his lack of judgement in this case.

Anyway, all the best Ami and I hope your mother does better. Sorry if that all sounded harsh as fuck but you definitely need to re-evaluate your priorities in life.

 

[Arjen]

Do they ask for handouts on the internet?

No, but that's not the point.
I think it's crazy people spend a fortune on curtains and furniture, but that's personal preference.
He needed money for his mothers treatment because he was blowing trough his savings.
He got the money, and life went back to normal for him. What normal life for him is is not for me to judge.

 

[Byakuya769]

I just got caught up on this. I see social benefit to helping people (and primarily their related children) on the margins, even if they do some drugs here and there. I really see no benefit to helping a guy out so he can drop half a g on drugs. Ami can pull this closed-fund accounting bullshit, but the people who gave to him basically allowed him the liberty to spend that much on drugs. And it was to "make the election week come by quicker."

Man, what the fuck. What if he had admitted to taking a trip to Disney World, driving to Vegas, or was just posting a huge haul in the "recent pickup" thread? He deserves what he's getting right now.

 

[Pandaman]

This reminds me of that thread where manus tore into ami over his drug use and was banned [for other reasons]. Never would have thought my last memory of that guy would be of him being right about something.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Situation is uncomfortable. It was common knowledge that Ami has done a lot of drugs recreationally, and I accepted that and accepted the explanation that the money was going directly to Ami's mom in her name and that she had legitimate problems and so it wouldn't be relevant. That still appears to be the case.

All the same, asking for donations comes with strings. It always does. You're going to come under scrutiny and people are going to demand transparency, and, well, that's fair. A lot of people had very little to give, and were just moved by the pure sentiment of helping out Ami's mom when she was in need. "Woo drug binge time now that these donations have taken a financial burden off me" is a pretty big slap in the face to those sentiments, no matter the context.

With that being said, when is enough enough? They're basically requesting that he proves he DIDN'T use it for drugs, which is impossible. Seems that many have taken the opportunity to do a 'GOTCHA' in this thread. I don't support his habbit or him blabbering on about it on this forum but just seems that people are asking for the impossible.

 

[vas_a_morir]

Ami do you think you are an addict?

My closest friend in the world was addicted to OC's. Addicts always deny that they are addicts, because they don't believe it themselves. And at my friend's worse, he wouldn't bang* 500mgs of OC's in a week, because the rate is $1 a mg, and he'd have to do some serious junkie-business (Hustling) to get that much money. That means dealing drugs yourself, or more likely, stealing shit from your family and friends to pawn.

If you are banging 500mgs in a week, you are not only an addict, you are near the point of no return. It's sad. I fucking hate that drug. It's ruined my community and affected everyone I know, either directly or indirectly.

I don't hold a grudge against Ami. His mother needed money, and it probably helped her, and that was the point. If you used that drugs to hustle pills, that's on you, big-man. Ain't none of my concern. Just, I have learned through the years that you can never, ever trust a junkie. They lie like they breathe air. It's how they survive day-to-day.

EDIT: *'Banging' is local slang for shooting up with a needle IV.

 

[MThanded]

Yeah I guess one of the bigger issues is that I highly doubt someone addicted to drugs can just give it up cold turkey during a crisis. Especially when that crisis is probably making them even more upset about life.

Like I said earlier. You want to do something for you mom and fiance? Get clean man. Not just giving up for a few days. Go and get some real help. Turn your life around. You are wasting time and money that you could spend with your sick mom and your fiance. You don't want to end up missing out on life.

 

[ColossalLazy]

It was quite obvious that donating money for Ami mom would help Ami at the same time, even so I donated.

 

[aku:jiki]

I'm someone who is responsible enough to not casually drop $400 when there are much more pressing issues in life. It's obvious he's been through a time of great despair and stress - i'm not knocking him for that - and from the sounds of things he's sadly not out of the woods yet. I agree with Mahzkrieg in that his dad could have used that money a lot more, or he could have set up a nest egg in case things turn sour again, or he could have even tried to get clean. He may not care what he does with his body, and that's fine, but after such a financial crisis he should at least recognize what it's doing to his wallet.

Sure, that's fine, but he has posted before that his jobs pays decently and in this thread that he's also back to saving for his house and other things. This $400 was a separate, very specific savings.

I don't know if I'm being too trusting, but I do know that many of you are being way overreactive with the "typical junkie behaviour" accusations. Typical junkie behaviour is stealing copper and living on the street, not stashing away $50 every paycheck.

During? How many months were you collecting money from GAF?

Holy shit, do you ever need to chill out. EviLore donated a hell of a lot more than you, if you even donated and all, and had a much more reasonable response to this.

 

[EliCash]

Situation is uncomfortable. It was common knowledge that Ami has done a lot of drugs recreationally, and I accepted that and accepted the explanation that the money was going directly to Ami's mom in her name and that she had legitimate problems and so it wouldn't be relevant. That still appears to be the case.

All the same, asking for donations comes with strings. It always does. You're going to come under scrutiny and people are going to demand transparency, and, well, that's fair. A lot of people had very little to give, and were just moved by the pure sentiment of helping out Ami's mom when she was in need. "Woo drug binge time now that these donations have taken a financial burden off me" is a pretty big slap in the face to those sentiments, no matter the context.

Yip. He has to realize that the questions were going to be asked.