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[harSon]

I do think people who've donated have a right to be pissed. While Amir0x is certainly in the right to do whatever the hell he wants with his own money, the fact that he dropped $400 on recreational drugs, while only a few months removed from potential financial ruin, speaks to an absurd level of economic irresponsability within his decision making.

As someone suggested beforehand, it's incredibly short sighted to blow every dollar to your name, let alone on something as financially perishable as drugs, when you're fresh off a situation where you had to beg an online forum for donations to maintain a level of financial stability. From what I've read, his mom's health is not 100% sound, nor is his family and own financial situation, and effectively placing yourself in a position where you'll be in the same predicament a few months down the road if things take a turn for the worst (I pray that they don't), is a legitimate area of concern for those who donated.

The dude is obviously a drug addict, and that fact alongside some documented posts on this forum suggests that he hasn't earned our undying trust. You may very well be telling the truth about the donated money, and I'm inclined to believe that you are personally, but your addiction and inability to succumb to sound finances in the face of such hardship is troubling and a legitimate area of concern for those who went out of their way to help you and your family.

 

[Foothills]

With that being said, when is enough enough? They're basically requesting that he proves he DIDN'T use it for drugs, which is impossible. Seems that many have taken the opportunity to do a 'GOTCHA' in this thread. I don't support his habbit or him blabbering on about it on this forum but just seems that people are asking for the impossible.

Why don't you get angry at the guy who made the thread and keeps engaging the people who are criticizing him? He's a big boy, doesn't seem to need you to protect him from the "meanies" in the thread he created and is perpetuating.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Yeah I guess one of the bigger issues is that I highly doubt someone addicted to drugs can just give it up cold turkey during a crisis. Especially when that crisis is probably making them even more upset about life.

You will have to take him at his word. Or not.

 

[TheFightingFish]

I'm fine with you spending money on what you want. Donations were made and I personally feel that they've all gone to the right spot (which is your deal in any case).

But yeah, I tried not to be a judgmental guy on the internet, but man with an upcoming marriage and a sick mother now would be a really, really, really good time to stop using heroin and oxy. I know that since you have mention this usage before on the forum you probably don't give much a crap of what anyone says, but that stuff is going to mess you up. If her medical bills are taken care of I would say that getting clean could probably be the best thing that you could do for her.

 

[Regulus Tera]

You need to seek help, Ami.

 

[Amir0x]

Situation is uncomfortable. It was common knowledge that Ami has done a lot of drugs recreationally, and I accepted that and accepted the explanation that the money was going directly to Ami's mom in her name and that she had legitimate problems and so it wouldn't be relevant. That still appears to be the case.

All the same, asking for donations comes with strings. It always does. You're going to come under scrutiny and people are going to demand transparency, and, well, that's fair. A lot of people had very little to give, and were just moved by the pure sentiment of helping out Ami's mom when she was in need. "Woo drug binge time now that these donations have taken a financial burden off me" is a pretty big slap in the face to those sentiments, no matter the context.

I respect that and that is why I wanted to post this topic.

I guess I just wasn't aware that returning to MY type of normalcy (everyone knew I did drugs, as you said) would have elicited this type of reaction. I never knew I was expected to stop doing what I have enjoyed since I was a kid once I began to start being able to save up again.

I really deeply apologize... I do not want people to think they donated to some unjust cause.

I will never mention my drug use again, ever, and if you want...whatever you think is just here, do it. But I guess there's nothing left for me to say. I'll stop responding now

 

[MThanded]

Holy shit, do you ever need to chill out. EviLore donated a hell of a lot more than you, if you even donated and all, and had a much more reasonable response to this.

What is this? Now its a pissing match about how much someone donated? Why the hell are you speaking for EviLore anyway.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Why don't you get angry at the guy who made the thread and keeps engaging the people who are criticizing him? He's a big boy, doesn't seem to need you to protect him from the "meanies" in the thread he created and is perpetuating.

I did. I said that he is doing more damage by answering the questions. And I'm not trying to protect/defend him, just calling out the bullshit. I'd be curious to know just how many of you folks who are gunnin for him actually even contributed money to his donation fund.

 

[FallingEdge]

Did he ever update the original thread? I remember people asking how she was doing and not getting a response.

 

[xelios]

You will have to take him at his word. Or not.

Since lying about something ridiculously trivial is what got him demodded I'm leaning toward the not. The dude would lie about what he had for lunch. No doubt in my mind some of the money went toward his addiction.

It was quite obvious that donating money for Ami mom would help Ami at the same time, even so I donated.

Helped him continue his addiction, not helped him...get help. Just for clarity.

 

[Alebrije]

It was quite obvious that donating money for Ami mom would help Ami at the same time, even so I donated.

That´s the moral.

 

[Dude Abides]

Are you fucking kidding? People who think doing Heroin, Oxy, and who knows what else are just being moral hardasses now?



.

You missed a dependent clause there, you may want to lay off the hard stuff.

true, 260mg weekend oxy benders are normal everyday things

Who cares?

 

[Speevy]

It's like that scene in Goodfellas when Henry Hill begs the guy for some money. We've gotta turn our backs on you or something.

 

[SpartanForce]

Why do you even use these drugs?

 

[CoffeeJanitor]

Hence why I never donate in threads like this

Btw stop doing druga

 

[TommyT]

From earlier in the thread:



To this post:



So twice a month...

Or.. barely ever.. only a few weekends..

In the SAME thread this guy does this.

Clownshoes if you believe that $11k went to his mother.

You're misinterpreting those. They clearly are about two different time periods. Edit: At least from the snippets you've pulled.

 

[hamchan]

You're reading it wrong. SINCE the situation. SINCE the financial aid. Not during. During I had stopped.

What do you need me to do to prove that the money went to my Mom?

People view income as a lifetime thing. GAF added to your lifetime income as a kindness, your drugs are taking away from that income.

I think what a lot of people would like to see is for you to slowly cut back on the drugs and start saving instead, so you don't need to ask GAF for help again and you provide greater stability for your family. People knew that donating would allow you greater flexibility for your own spending, they just didn't expect it to be spent in drugs instead of something cleaner. You said you used your wedding money to help your mother, now can't you keep saving for that or something more beneficial for your family like a house, car, etc.

We're not rich, there's always something to save towards and a better use for that $400. If you don't slowly get off the drugs then it really is like a slap in the face for everyone who donated.

 

[freenudemacusers]

Who cares?

people who have known oxy addicts?

 

[Wendel Clark]

Why do you even use these drugs?

It's election week.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Since lying about something ridiculously trivial is what got him demodded I'm leaning toward the not. The dude would lie about what he had for lunch. No doubt in my mind some of the money went toward his addiction.

Think what you want. I'm not trying to convince you otherwise. I don't blame you even if I don't share the same judgement on Ami.

 

[LeleSocho]

OP i sincerely thank you for reminding once again that i must never NEVER trust someone on the internet

 

[nVidiot_Whore]

From September 11 until I asked for fundraising money, I had also stopped doing recreational drugs to help put even more money toward her care. That was before neoGAF even knew about it. So the whole ordeal was from September 11-til June 2012, when we were running out of cash fast.

I still find it inappropriate for someone who can blow $400 on drugs 6 months after asking for donations (not to mention saving for rather non-essential things like weddings and honeymoons, sorry, again, you lack perspective).

In the end, I just think you lack perspective.

But it is hard to trust someone who drops 250mg of oxy twice a month.

Either way.. good luck to your Mom. I think you have a strange view of money.

I'd never feel comfortable asking a forum for $10,000.. let alone turning around and resuming my 250mg twice a month Oxy habit shortly after.

 

[tmarques]

My drug expenditure this week was a special occasion, that was to make the final election week go fast, and it did not cost me much at all. It cost me about $400, and I had been saving that little nest egg for just such a week.

I can see why some people would have a problem with this. I know I would.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

People view income as a lifetime thing. GAF added to your lifetime income as a kindness, your drugs are taking away from that income.

I think what a lot of people would like to see is for you to slowly cut back on the drugs and start saving instead, so you don't need to ask GAF for help again and you provide greater stability for your family. People knew that donating would allow you greater flexibility for your own spending, they just didn't expect it to be spent in drugs instead of something cleaner. You said you used your wedding money to help your mother, now can't you keep saving for that or something more beneficial for your family like a house, car, etc.

We're not rich, there's always something to save towards and a better use for that $400. If you don't slowly get off the drugs then it really is like a slap in the face for everyone who donated.

The $400 he used wasn't from GAF. My goodness, I am stepping away. This thread is becoming an intervention except none of you are family or friends of his IRL and none of you deserve an answer as to how/why he spent $400 on drugs.

 

[SmokyDave]

I'll stop responding now

That really would be for the best chap. You've given your explanations and offered your apologies. There's nothing more to be said.

I'd stay away from YouTube comments for a while though

 

[Seraphis Cain]

I guess I just wasn't aware that returning to MY type of normalcy (everyone knew I did drugs, as you said) would have elicited this type of reaction. I never knew I was expected to stop doing what I have enjoyed since I was a kid once I began to start being able to save up again.

I think the issue is that you're talking about heavy narcotic usage like it was nothing more serious than reading books or watching movies or playing video games. You really don't see why that would irk some people?

 

[AcceptableGhost]

Mental note: Don't donate to NeoGAF users, especially Amirox.

 

[Dude Abides]

people who have known oxy addicts?

There's a drunk bum who hangs out on my street. How can we save him?

 

[Kenka]

nevermind.

 

[Wafflecakes]

The fact that he doesn't see it as a problem, but rather just something he has "enjoyed" since childhood screams hardcore addict more than anything else. I am done here but I really, REALLY hope he wakes up and gets help before its too late because.....its not sustainable. You could be fine now, or in a couple years, but eventually it always catches up to you.

 

[SpartanForce]

It's election week.

Man If I had $400 right now I would buy an Paul Reed Smith that would last like, forever. $400 on drugs for one week is just insane.

 

[IrrelevantNotch]

Well, as long as you saved up for that drug money.

 

[freenudemacusers]

There's a drunk bum who hangs out on my street. How can we save him?

this is an odd attitude in light of the numerous threads where gaf is held as a community. but i see you don't give a fuck (but enough to tell me that you don't give a fuck) so OK

 

[Like the hat?]

Why do you even use these drugs?

I don't know amir0x and I'm not going to speak for him, but I have known addicts (my parents and brothers included) and I would say it is likely because he has an addiction. It's possible maybe he doesn't, and he can control himself completely. I'm just speaking from the experience of someone on the outside, since I've never done anything harder than the occasional beer myself.
Maybe people can control it, what do I know. I think that I've controlled my drinking even though my parents are alcoholics. Maybe people can control themselves with harder stuff the same way I can with beer, I dunno. I personally don't think he has it as under control as he claims, but it's not like I know him personally. It just seems like a lot.

 

[legacyzero]

That really would be for the best chap. You've given your explanations and offered your apologies. There's nothing more to be said.

I'd stay away from YouTube comments for a while though

LOL

 

[Deleted member 47027]

All I'll offer you is time, an ear, and talk to you about trying to kick your habit. Not money. But I want to help you get clean, if that's what you want. But I don't think you've expressed any desire to get clean.

 

[JDS 2.0]

Christ, Just nuke this thread and ban this guy. How can some people around here get a free pass for their drama forever including mod abuse, lying and whatever else is going on here...
While other members can be banned for saying a celebrity is fat? Or some other trivial thing?

 

[commedieu]

Man If I had $400 right now I would buy an Paul Reed Smith that would last like, forever. $400 on drugs for one week is just insane.

Is that a male real doll company or something?

 

[LiquidMetal14]

The fact that he doesn't see it as a problem, but rather just something he has "enjoyed" since childhood screams hardcore addict more than anything else. I am done here but I really, REALLY hope he wakes up and gets help before its too late because.....its not sustainable. You could be fine now, or in a couple years, but eventually it always catches up to you.

I get what you're saying but it's the same reason why people smoke, do weed, or drink regularly. It's the norm and they live their lives just the same regardless. He seems to have never fallen off the wagon and has done his deeds responsibly. Other's have been as open or even more open on their drug use so he's not some exception to the rule.

His mother and family are going through rough financial times. As I said before, I hope he comes out better for this.

 

[MThanded]

Christ, Just nuke this thread and ban this guy. How can some people around here get a free pass for their drama forever including mod abuse, lying and whatever else is going on here...
While other members can be banned for saying a celebrity is fat? Or some other trivial thing?

ruh roh

 

[Foothills]

Who cares?

Are you trying to do some meta thread schtick of "cool story bro?" It's a discussion forum, where a well known guy posted a frankly fascinating thread about his personal drug use and how that interacts with his plea to the same forum for money.

Any apparently you care enough to post repeatedly about how nobody should care.

 

[aku:jiki]

What is this? Now its a pissing match about how much someone donated?

Of course not, I'm trying to say that the rage is not in proportion to the damage done to the person spewing it. There's no way Ami's actions actually hurt nVidiot enough to warrant the relentless vitriol and if the person donating $1000 is suspicious and slightly unhappy but mostly cool about it, I don't see why someone who likely donated $0 needs to lose their shit. That's more likely about nVidiot jumping at a chance to shit on Amir0x, which in my opinion isn't any more honorable behavior than being a deceitful junkie.

 

[gregor7777]

The OP could have been written by any junkie I've ever known. It all sounds the same.
It's really pathetic. Get yourself some help dude. You need it.

Exactly. I hope some day ami is in a place where he can read his OP and see that too. Good luck man, it sounds like you got a long road ahead.

 

[Speevy]

Christ, Just nuke this thread and ban this guy. How can some people around here get a free pass for their drama forever including mod abuse, lying and whatever else is going on here...
While other members can be banned for saying a celebrity is fat? Or some other trivial thing?

Yeah, I wouldn't do that.

 

[AcceptableGhost]

Don't you guys understand, it is election week!

 

[vas_a_morir]

Is that a male real doll company or something?

It's a guitar. As a Gibson Guitar man, I probably shouldn't give my opinion on them.

 

[hamchan]

The $400 he used wasn't from GAF. My goodness, I am stepping away. This thread is becoming an intervention except none of you are family or friends of his IRL and none of you deserve an answer as to how/why he spent $400 on drugs.

I never said the $400 he used was from GAF.

Even if we sound harsh or judgmental, people are trying to help him. Why don't you step off the defense force a bit?

 

[Ponn]

There's a drunk bum who hangs out on my street. How can we save him?

You're joking now, and maybe you just don't have experience with pain pill/oxy addicts, I don't know. The problem with addicts, and their enablers is they don't get the harm they do to others. If it was just them burning out in a blaze of glory all well and fine.

For instance, and I noticed Amirox hasn't responded to this point, if the previous fundraiser money runs dry, his parents already sold their house and whatever savings Ami claims he has runs dry, what then? Can he really come back to GAF for a fundraiser? His addiction directly effects his mothers well being in that case.

 

[MThanded]

Of course not, I'm trying to say that the rage is not in proportion to the damage done to the person spewing it. There's no way Ami's actions actually hurt nVidiot enough to warrant the relentless vitriol and if the person donating $1000 is suspicious and slightly unhappy but mostly cool about it, I don't see why someone who likely donated $0 needs to lose their shit. That's more likely about nVidiot jumping at a chance to shit on Amir0x, which in my opinion isn't any more honorable behavior than being a deceitful junkie.

Whats the cutoff for someone being upset?

So I know at least 1/11 is ok. Is that the lowest you can go and call out problems?

 

[forknknife]

I was quite addicted to weed ten years ago, I smoked so much all through college to the point that I developed a crazy tolerance and I could not stop smoking, more and more as time passed. All ended up with me getting crazy panic attacks, paranoia and constant fear of death. It was really bad and my family suffered because of my addiction caused by my own stupidity. After that I realized that drugs (and yeah, weed, supposedly it's not bad according to many, but even that fucked me up) are just an expensive and risky hobby to have that can really affect the lives of those around you. I decided to quit for me but specially for those who love me.

Amirox, I did not donate for your mother, but if I had I would feel really disappointed right now knowing you are going back to this frivolous drug spending and specially knowing that you seem to think it's completely normal and ok. Well, it's not ok. I think after an experience like the one you had with you going broke and your mother terminally ill, you would have learned your lesson and know that you have to be 100% ready for anything your people might need. Who knows what could be next, shit can happen twice, won't you feel stupid if you need to beg others for money again? What if one bad night you take too much and you become a vegetable? Would you be ok with the burden that would place on your family?

Really.