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[nVidiot_Whore]

I find the idea that to give to someone charitably they have to remain in the original dilemma pretty weird.

That's not really a great re-telling of why people are upset.

Going from begging people for money, to a $400 drug binge 6 months later.. that's the issue for me. Total lack of perspective.. and I wonder if he let people in on how well off in general he is.

The fact that he'd say $400 is "not a lot".. good lord dude.

And he's described his drug use here too.. claimed he only did 1 massive dose of Oxy a month on weekends.. and never mentioned any break he took during these hard times.

Chances are Amir0x binged on drugs consistently throughout the ordeal of begging for money.

His doses are MASSIVE.. and I didn't really buy the idea that he only did it once a month.. and here I see him mentioning a more random week where he binged to make the week a "blur"?

Perspective.. he lacks it. And from where I'm standing? I don't trust what he says about his oxy use whatsoever.

 

[PezDispenser]

Am I actually seeing a defense force assemble here? The people brushing this aside and saying it's all cool have obviously never known an oxy/heroin user, because if they had, they would know what a disservice they were doing to this guy by enabling him and helping him rationalize away what is obviously a very, very unhealthy amount of drugs to be doing in such a short time frame.

I'm all for the responsible use of recreational drugs, but this is about as far from it as you could possibly fucking get. Not to mention the fact that he clearly scammed you guys, another thing you should be able to instantly recognize if you've ever had a friend who started taking too many oxys. I guess gaf nerds will really defend anything, won't they?

 

[Wafflecakes]

This is like a GAF soap opera. He really shouldn't have made this thread.

Why?

No offense...but drug addicts SHOULD be reminded as often as possible that in the long term that they are destroying themselves. Any discussion on this topic is productive imo.


People making excuses are enablers.....plain and simple.

 

[Van Owen]

I mean, was he suppose to also never buy a game again for what? 2 years? I mean whats the timeframe on his personal spending here?
This isn't being charitable, its expecting to own someone. As long as the money donated went to the right place - and I've no reason to think it hasn't, any other spending is a non-issue in relation to the funding provided.

Why do people keep comparing buying a video game to regular drug use? lol

 

[commedieu]

I don't think there's anything more I can explain. It's all here, and if you read post by post, most of it is explained. If you're still disatisfied, you're always going to be.

I apologize once again for the drama and concern and I think from now on I will refrain from posting about what I do recreationally. I have learned my lesson.

The money is just money.

But you do need to get some help, cleanup, be a good husband and son.

 

[MThanded]

This is like a GAF soap opera. He really shouldn't have made this thread.

He had to know what was coming.

 

[NinjaBoiX]

I don't think there's anything more I can explain. It's all here, and if you read post by post, most of it is explained. If you're still disatisfied, you're always going to be.

I apologize once again for the drama and concern and I think from now on I will refrain from posting about what I do recreationally. I have learned my lesson.

Do you think it's fair for people to ask if you were using during the donation period? I think that's a fair, entirely appropriate question.

 

[NullPointer]

This post is pretty selfish. Who the fuck are you to tell anyone how they should find their peace of mind?

He can do what he wants, but he can't be surprised when people don't trust his word. That comes with the territory.

Certain drugs are pure evil when abused, and its only a matter of time.

Its a sad situation and I only wish the best for you and your mother Amir0x.

 

[Esch]

Am I actually seeing a defense force assemble here? The people brushing this aside and saying it's all cool have obviously never known an oxy/heroin user, because if they had, they would know what a disservice they were doing to this guy by enabling him and helping him rationalize away what is obviously a very, very unhealthy amount of drugs to be doing in such a short time frame.

I'm all for the responsible use of recreational drugs, but this is about as far from it as you could possibly fucking get. Not to mention the fact that he clearly scammed you guys, another thing you should be able to instantly recognize if you've ever had a friend who started taking too many oxys. I guess gaf nerds will really defend anything, won't they?

.

 

[Syrinx]

Since most people seem to now be posting about his habit:

I have never taken illegal drugs in my life. I really don't intend to either. I admit that I was a little bit alarmed at how much he spent on his drugs and at all the drugs he was taking, but I'm not an expert, so I really don't know how much drugs that is.

I would seriously hope that if Amir0x has a problem, that somebody close to him such as his mother or his fiance would say something to him, and if they did, then I would seriously hope he would realize that his drug use has started to impact the people around him, and therefore has become a problem. Until then, I really can't say anything, since I don't know the man.

 

[Speevy]

I would say the most important opinion is that of Evilore.

Didn't he give you $1,000? If he's fine with it, that's your drug bill right there.

 

[kinggroin]

Hopefully your mom doesn't need more than $11k. I don't think anyone here is going to be that generous to you again.

Fuck.

Damn Amir0x. In a roundabout way, you're drug addiction may have had a negative effect on the one you love most.

I pray your moms and pops can come out on their feet and that you dont become the next charity case.

 

[MThanded]

I see the defense force is assembling. Weird to see in this thread.

 

[Auron_Kale]

Even after I saw the other guy's thread, I never felt any remorse in donating to help your mom.

Did the question ever arise that you would use the money for yourself rather than your mom? Absolutely not. I did it because you wanted to do everything in your power to help out the ones you loved the most. For me, donating some cash to help someone in their time of need is no different than donating to anything else: you needed help so I offered some help, end of story.

What you do on your own time is of no concern to me as we all have our vices, but I really and sincerely hope your mom gets through all this, your dad can breathe easier from having had to work 3 jobs and that your family grows stronger as a whole. Hopefully though, you get clean and be the best son/husband that everyone in your family needs you to be.

In short, you didn't have to explain anything but I do admire that you did.

Good luck with everything dude.

 

[Trent Strong]

This post is pretty selfish. Who the fuck are you to tell anyone how they should find their peace of mind?

Trying to find peace of mind through oxycotin and heroin is dumb. Period.

 

[commedieu]

Do you think it's fair for people to ask if you were using during the donation period? I think that's a fair, entirely appropriate question.

Ridiculous, it serves absolutely no purpose outside of judging someone. Everyone has shit in their life, and people deal with things in all sorts of ways.

I donated money, and even had 1800 dollars of credit card fraud after the transaction. I don't see the fairness. Hes a drug addict, he probably used drugs, and bought a meal when he wasn't really hungry, or dropped a quarter once too.

I think people demanding that he tell them of his habits during his mothers sickness, as all of everything he had should be going to her, isn't honest. I assumed his mother needed the money. I trusted it, and thats that.

 

[grimshawish]

Why do people keep comparing buying a video game to regular drug use? lol

No one is. Drugs are irrelevant here. Its the money spent.

If we say drugs are relevant were saying that Ami as a user defrauded people (using his ill mum) to pay for drugs. Right? This doesn't hold up unless we like Ami is the single most patient drug user in the world! He defrauds Gaf using some pretty sick reasoning (so hes needing drugs like now) then...waits 6-7 months? Not drug user behaviour - thats a long time!

Drugs are irrelevant. The spending is 'supposedly' relevant but am saying it is also NOT relevant as thats not how charity works. You don't give a man in the street a pound then demand repayment because he found housing a few months later. Its ridiculous.

 

[Jackpot]

I don't think there's anything more I can explain, since this is not what I did. It's all here, and if you read post by post, most of it is explained. If you're still disatisfied, you're always going to be.

I apologize once again for the drama and concern and I think from now on I will refrain from posting about what I do recreationally. I have learned my lesson. That's all I have to say. Sorry neoGAF.

Ami, I think you need to confront the oxy issue instead of avoiding it and writing its detractors off as Buzz Killingtons. Could you really stop taking it if needed?

 

[HerbertFish]

I don't know who amirox is, but I highly doubt he could be this stupid. Whoever said it was a cry for help seems more correct.

 

[legacyzero]

The money is just money.

But you do need to get some help, cleanup, be a good husband and son.

I think this is the best post in the thread TBH

I would say the most important opinion is that of Evilore.

Didn't he give you $1,000? If he's fine with it, that's your drug bill right there.

Yeah, even the infamous JBaird donated (unless it was a trolling Gaffer.)

Fuck.

Damn Amir0x. In a roundabout way, you're drug addiction may have had a negative effect on the one you love most.

I pray your moms and pops can come out on their feet and that you dont become the next charity case.

.

 

[Trigger]

Why?

No offense...but drug addicts SHOULD be reminded as often as possible that in the long term that they are destroying themselves. Any discussion on this topic is productive imo.


People making excuses are enablers.....plain and simple.

Nothing good will come out of it. I'm not sure I trust Amirox

Spoiler

(ok, to be honest I don't trust him),

but this back and forth about the donations just seems messy. If some of the other posts are true then this whole discussion is motivated by a vendetta; not genuine concern.

I do think he has a problem though.

 

[railGUN]

I donated money, and even had 1800 dollars of credit card fraud after the transaction. I don't see the fairness. Hes a drug addict, he probably used drugs, and bought a meal when he wasn't really hungry, or dropped a quarter once too.

/record scratch

 

[Wafflecakes]

Ridiculous, it serves absolutely no purpose outside of judging someone. Everyone has shit in their life, and people deal with things in all sorts of ways.

I donated money, and even had 1800 dollars of credit card fraud after the transaction. I don't see the fairness. Hes a drug addict, he probably used drugs, and bought a meal when he wasn't really hungry, or dropped a quarter once too.

I think people demanding that he tell them of his habits during his mothers sickness, as all of everything he had should be going to her, isn't honest. I assumed his mother needed the money. I trusted it, and thats that.

Cus addicts never lie. Thats been my experience as well.

People have their lives.....however, no one is an island and they cannot pretend that what they do does not effect other people. Especially when asking for money.



Really its not about the charity. Thats a dead end. Its about addiction....and anyone buying that volume of drugs is an addict.

 

[MThanded]

Ridiculous, it serves absolutely no purpose outside of judging someone. Everyone has shit in their life, and people deal with things in all sorts of ways.

I donated money, and even had 1800 dollars of credit card fraud after the transaction. I don't see the fairness. Hes a drug addict, he probably used drugs, and bought a meal when he wasn't really hungry, or dropped a quarter once too.

I think people demanding that he tell them of his habits during his mothers sickness, as all of everything he had should be going to her, isn't honest. I assumed his mother needed the money. I trusted it, and thats that.

What does this mean?

 

[faust666]

It may well be I "have a problem", and that's a separate discussion. My question is if it was an iPad, or a game console, or new rims for my car, or ANYTHING... why is it you think that this fundraiser meant you had a say in what I did recreational forever into the future? It's -completely- unrelated, it's been SIX MONTHS.

The difference is that all these things are pawnable should the need for money ever occur again. If your attitude is also "why should i sell all my own stuff when I can just ask GAF to bail me out", I suspect the reactions would be similar.

 

[nVidiot_Whore]

OK, so Amirox did say he continued to "do pills twice a month."

and do pills twice a month.

Here's where he's described this habit:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=43061933&postcount=61

My tolerance for oxycodone is at 240~260mg now, and that's even with me only doing it twice a month now.

So twice a month he's done 240-260mg of Oxy.

Or about 500mg per month.

Which would cost a normal person a crap-ton of money.

I don't buy his claims of how cheap he get's Oxy.

He spent hundreds a month on Oxy during this entire ordeal most likely.

And I think he's the only person on the planet who drops 250mg of Oxy on a weekend.. and then doesn't do it again for 2 weeks. That's.. nutty.

 

[hamchan]

I don't think there's anything more I can explain, since this is not what I did. It's all here, and if you read post by post, most of it is explained. If you're still disatisfied, you're always going to be.

I apologize once again for the drama and concern and I think from now on I will refrain from posting about what I do recreationally. I have learned my lesson. That's all I have to say. Sorry neoGAF.

I think people would rather you learn the lesson of not taking drugs. Not only are they unhealthy for you but they're probably a strain on your financials as well. When people donated to you they knew it was because you were (hopefully) putting everything you possibly could into your mother's health bills. Now it is time for you to be responsible and start saving for the next rainy day or paying off some bills, anything instead of taking drugs.

Taking drugs and spending so much money (and $400 is a lot of money) is like the most selfish, irresponsible, and disgusting thing you could do after people helped you so much and with how shaky your financial situation was just 6 months ago. Hopefully you can see why people are getting so infuriated about this.

 

[Mudkips]

$400 for a week's worth of illegal drugs while your family is mired in medical bills, after begging for, and receiving, money from strangers?

That's textbook addict behavior.

 

[Bulbo Urethral Baggins]

Am I actually seeing a defense force assemble here? The people brushing this aside and saying it's all cool have obviously never known an oxy/heroin user, because if they had, they would know what a disservice they were doing to this guy by enabling him and helping him rationalize away what is obviously a very, very unhealthy amount of drugs to be doing in such a short time frame.

I'm all for the responsible use of recreational drugs, but this is about as far from it as you could possibly fucking get. Not to mention the fact that he clearly scammed you guys, another thing you should be able to instantly recognize if you've ever had a friend who started taking too many oxys. I guess gaf nerds will really defend anything, won't they?

Sure looks like a sizable defense force to me.
I've had oxycontin/heroin users in my family and it's always the same shit.... So many stories. Either people are naive as fuck here, or their first reaction is to protect someone who is fucking up. I don't understand it. He doesn't need apologists to step in for him. He needs help and hard truths. And a spanking.

 

[Blackace]

What does this mean?

Sounds like he is suggesting that his donation and fraud are somehow related

 

[MThanded]

Ami do you think you are an addict?

 

[freenudemacusers]

That's not really a great re-telling of why people are upset.

Going from begging people for money, to a $400 drug binge 6 months later.. that's the issue for me. Total lack of perspective.. and I wonder if he let people in on how well off in general he is.

The fact that he'd say $400 is "not a lot".. good lord dude.

And he's described his drug use here too.. claimed he only did 1 massive dose of Oxy a month on weekends.. and never mentioned any break he took during these hard times.

Chances are Amir0x binged on drugs consistently throughout the ordeal of begging for money.

His doses are MASSIVE.. and I didn't really buy the idea that he only did it once a month.. and here I see him mentioning a more random week where he binged to make the week a "blur"?

Perspective.. he lacks it. And from where I'm standing? I don't trust what he says about his oxy use whatsoever.

yeah, he mentioned doing $300 oxy weekends regularly a couple months ago. and yeah, for those who don't know much about oxy intake, the amounts he apparently needs to get high are well beyond the norm. Like, 20x times the norm.

 

[NinjaBoiX]

Ridiculous, it serves absolutely no purpose outside of judging someone. Everyone has shit in their life, and people deal with things in all sorts of ways.

I donated money, and even had 1800 dollars of credit card fraud after the transaction. I don't see the fairness. Hes a drug addict, he probably used drugs, and bought a meal when he wasn't really hungry, or dropped a quarter once too.

I think people demanding that he tell them of his habits during his mothers sickness, as all of everything he had should be going to her, isn't honest. I assumed his mother needed the money. I trusted it, and thats that.

I just hope she saw every cent that GAF kindly donated. If she didn't, and he spent some of it on drugs, if mind you, I'm not accusing, then he should feel thoroughly ashamed. I don't think that's at all unreasonable, the idea was to pay for his mother's care, not supplement his habit.

As I say, this is all conjecture, I really hope there is no substance to it.

 

[Amir0x]

Guys, I have no delusions about the level of oxycontin use is very high and is a serious addiction. But part of the problem is that it is accumulated, and once it accumulates it's quite hard to get the tolerance down. And even if you stop forever, if you start back up, your body gets right back up to its previous level of tolerance in essentially lighting speed. I don't do oxy every day or even every other day; as I have said many times before when I am doing it I do it twice per month because a.) I can't function if I do it non-stop and b.) it would cost too much to do it more often.



My Mom's Kidneys failed in September 2011. Prior to that, my mom was still very sick with illness. I always sent her money to help her out (because my mom and Dad struggle), but it wasn't near as much... and I was saving for my wedding, honey moon and house. Prior to September 11, yes, I was doing recreational drugs with some frequency.

After this happened, I went through the money I had in savings. When my Mom was diagnoses I hardly used drugs at all (unless you count alcohol). During this period I had stopped almost all my recreational drug activity. There were a few weekends I got pills, but I didn't purchase them - my friend just wanted me to have a good time with him, because he knew I was broke.

Once more, I apologize.

 

[Foothills]

Ami do you think you are an addict?

He's clearly said he doesn't think so, despite the tons of posts people have dredged up here, the dishonest addictive behavior, etc.

Nobody has to infer or make anything up here, it's his own words.

edit - admits it above at least. Awesome first step, seriously. That is some scary shit the oxy use.

 

[harSon]

Sounds like he is suggesting that his donation and fraud are somehow related

I think he's suggesting that he was nice enough to donate for what he believed to be a worthy cause despite facing some financial hardships himself.

 

[Fantomex]

I don't think there's anything more I can explain, since this is not what I did. It's all here, and if you read post by post, most of it is explained. If you're still disatisfied, you're always going to be.

I apologize once again for the drama and concern and I think from now on I will refrain from posting about what I do recreationally. I have learned my lesson. That's all I have to say. Sorry neoGAF.

Dang bro, I don't know you. But have you ever wondered what would happen to your mother should you ever accidentally OD or find yourself in a bad situation? All that struggle to get her better only to break her heart.

 

[freenudemacusers]

Guys, I have no delusions about the level of oxycontin use is very high and is a serious addiction. But part of the problem is that it is accumulated, and once it accumulates it's quite hard to get the tolerance down. And even if you stop forever, if you start back up, your body gets right back up to its previous level of tolerance in essentially lighting speed. I don't do oxy every day or even every other day; as I have said many times before when I am doing it I do it twice per month because a.) I can't function if I do it non-stop and b.) it would cost too much to do it more often.

stop doing drugs

 

[Dude Abides]

Cus addicts never lie. Thats been my experience as well.

People have their lives.....however, no one is an island and they cannot pretend that what they do does not effect other people. Especially when asking for money.



Really its not about the charity. Thats a dead end. Its about addiction....and anyone buying that volume of drugs is an addict.

If it's not about the charity, then who cares? Why do you care if some stranger on a forum is a drug addict?

 

[reptilescorpio]

The OP really set this up to be a messy thread. You should do whatever you want with your money dude but I just hope you have a bunch of people around you IRL helping you and your family through this rough time with your Mum.

Hopefully your mom doesn't need more than $11k. I don't think anyone here is going to be that generous to you again.

Completely unrelated to this thread though. I would certainly donate if she was in a really bad way and could be helped.

 

[nVidiot_Whore]

yeah, he mentioned doing $300 oxy weekends regularly a couple months ago. and yeah, for those who don't know much about oxy intake, the amounts he apparently needs to get high are well beyond the norm. Like, 20x times the norm.

Yeah I found the post.

It was actually 250mg twice a month.

It's an incredible amount.. the idea that he somehow binges twice a month like that isn't entirely believable in the first place.

 

[Foothills]

If it's not about the charity, then who cares? Why do you care if some stranger on a forum is a drug addict?

Who cares? For one, the guy who made a thread discussing his drug use on a public forum, thus inviting discussion. Heaven forbid anyone should opine.

 

[commedieu]

What does this mean?

I made a thread about it a while back around the time of the donations. For some reason my donation in chicago, triggered this spree of fraud on my account, in chicago. I've never been there... someone clearly cloned a card. I let the website also know what happened(the donation site) Mainly, it was a bitch, but I still didn't mind donating to the guys mom. BOFA cleared it all up. That was the point...

I just hope she saw every cent that GAF kindly donated. If she didn't, and he spent some of it on drugs, if mind you, I'm not accusing, then he should feel thoroughly ashamed. I don't think that's at all unreasonable, the idea was to pay for his mother's care, not supplement his habit.

As I say, this is all conjecture, I really hope there is no substance to it.

Theres a lot of inherent shame with drugs. As everyone calls you stupid, pathetic, retarded, etc for having the need to use them. But people rarely look into the reasons why, or suggest the help that is needed to get off of them.

 

[PezDispenser]

Yeah, I'd also like to point out that it takes time to build up the tolerance to be able to do the unholy shit-ton amount of drugs in said election week. You don't just wake up and start doing grams of heroin with handfuls of oxys. There is absolutely no doubt that this has been going on for at the very least six months.

 

[MThanded]

Guys, I have no delusions about the level of oxycontin use is very high and is a serious addiction. But part of the problem is that it is accumulated, and once it accumulates it's quite hard to get the tolerance down. And even if you stop forever, if you start back up, your body gets right back up to its previous level of tolerance in essentially lighting speed. I don't do oxy every day or even every other day; as I have said many times before when I am doing it I do it twice per month because a.) I can't function if I do it non-stop and b.) it would cost too much to do it more often.



My Mom's Kidneys failed in September 2011. Prior to that, my mom was still very sick with illness. I always sent her money to help her out (because my mom and Dad struggle), but it wasn't near as much... and I was saving for my wedding, honey moon and house. Prior to September 11, yes, I was doing recreational drugs with some frequency.

After this happened, I went through the money I had in savings. When my Mom was diagnoses I hardly used drugs at all (unless you count alcohol). During this period I had stopped almost all my recreational drug activity. There were a few weekends I got pills, but I didn't purchase them - my friend just wanted me to have a good time with him, because he knew I was broke.

Once more, I apologize.

You know what could benefit your mom the most? You getting clean and sober and being around for her. Same thing for your fiance and your marriage.

 

[DietRob]

If it's not about the charity, then who cares? Why do you care if some stranger on a forum is a drug addict?

Same reason we care if some stranger on a forum's Mom is going through some shit.

 

[Blackace]

I think he's suggesting that he was nice enough to donate for what he believed to be a worthy cause despite facing some financial hardships himself.

Uh I know that's not what he is saying

Very clearly he says the fraud happens after the transaction so...

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

UGh. Last post on page.

 

[nVidiot_Whore]

During this period I had stopped almost all my recreational drug activity. There were a few weekends I got pills.

You said earlier in this thread that you continued to do oxy twice a month.

 

[Black1ce]

So basically, because of the fundraiser that helped your mom, you are now able to afford to put aside $50/week to buy drugs. I can understand treating yourself to relieve some of the pressure, but with $400 worth of drugs? That's a bit salty.