StreetsofBeige
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Game looks terrible. Even the PC rig textures and colour palette look washed out with crap fps too. Although it can hit 60 fps.
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IGN: Dragon's Dogma 2 Performance Review - PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S vs PC
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darrylgorn
Member
It's 2024 and we still have CPU constraints hamstringing performance. We need a software or API based solution for this because the hardware isn't going to radically improve any time soon.
CPUs need their own DLSS moment or you'll never see sustainable 60 fps in open world games.
CPUs need their own DLSS moment or you'll never see sustainable 60 fps in open world games.
Stuart360
Member
The only good thing about all this is the fact it has an unlocked framerate (although they should of also had a 30fps mode when the framerate is this bad) so next gen consoles will be able to get 60fps in this (PS5 Pro wont with it using basically the same cpu as PS5).
Although needing next gen consoles to hit 60fps on this game is downright diabolical lol.
Although needing next gen consoles to hit 60fps on this game is downright diabolical lol.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
If the game is so hard on console specs, they should had offered dumbed down 1440p res mode to offer a more stable frame rate.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Game is cpu bound. Reducing resolution won’t help.
Besides the game is already running at 4kcb so it’s half of native 4k and closer to 1440p anyway.
Ferdimage
Member
Ouch even the master race is struggling here.here is pc performance analysis by PCGAMER
Dragon's Dogma 2 performance analysis: It'll take everything your PC has and still want more
I hope you have a top-end CPU and GPU because you're really going to need them.www.pcgamer.com
Well I already pre ordered for PC, just gonna try and have fun with it.
I did manage to clock over 100+ hours on DDDA for the PS3 even with the tanked fps
Klosshufvud
Member
I warned you guys about RE Engine. It was created for claustrophobic RE corridors. Not these open world settings. I miss MT Framework.
Mister Wolf
Member
twilo99
Member
That’s actually the most impressive bit
twilo99
Member
Which makes the choice of using Zen2 in what is supposed to be the best performing console around in 2024 simply baffling. Not only that, but we are supposed to keep using that CPU until at least 2027.
Quantum253
Gold Member
Even after a decade of fine tuning and adjuatments? I'm curious if their ambition outgrew the engines capabilities and will make up for it with REX
DAHGAMING
Gold Member
Yep, and a nice price drop wont be far off.
rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Seems good!
Haha and the idiots yesterday cried in the other that the ps5 version resolution is far lower and blurry!!!! lol get lost.
Ps5 version is 4k with interlacing. That’s obviously worse than raw 4k but not much enough to be visible on not zoomed yt vid.
Also, ps5 uses rather high settings and even some rt. And yesterday everyone thought it uses none.
I am telling you, you could swap these comparisons labels around and nobody would know. Pcmr guys just see the console label and it automatically looks worse for them.
I really hope they won’t lower graphics quality on ps5 with a. Patch to get better fps. If they want to patch in new mode and fps limiter ? Fine. But don’t alter the current mode too much.
This is what I wanted. Game with no stupid modes finally. Just it could had fps limiter on off.
Series s is bad though.
And other graph yesterday was running 4090 at 1440p with interlacing and boasting how much better the performance is. Well yeah, at half of 1440p on a 4090
Haha and the idiots yesterday cried in the other that the ps5 version resolution is far lower and blurry!!!! lol get lost.
Ps5 version is 4k with interlacing. That’s obviously worse than raw 4k but not much enough to be visible on not zoomed yt vid.
Also, ps5 uses rather high settings and even some rt. And yesterday everyone thought it uses none.
I am telling you, you could swap these comparisons labels around and nobody would know. Pcmr guys just see the console label and it automatically looks worse for them.
I really hope they won’t lower graphics quality on ps5 with a. Patch to get better fps. If they want to patch in new mode and fps limiter ? Fine. But don’t alter the current mode too much.
This is what I wanted. Game with no stupid modes finally. Just it could had fps limiter on off.
Series s is bad though.
And other graph yesterday was running 4090 at 1440p with interlacing and boasting how much better the performance is. Well yeah, at half of 1440p on a 4090
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rofif
Can’t Git Gud
Not sure with this game but with re remakes, they look much better with hdr. Usually contrast gets much deeper
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
No PC info?
Mister Wolf
Member
Dragon's Dogma 2 performance analysis: It'll take everything your PC has and still want more
I hope you have a top-end CPU and GPU because you're really going to need them.
Best info we have so far. Bad info though. The author isn't even knowledgeable enough to know that Interlacing is an upscaling technique.
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Dr.Morris79
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Duchess
Member
Good grief, you'd think they could've added in a 1080p performance mode :|
GymWolf
Member
Japanese devs battling for who is the more inept with graphic and performances, you love to see it
GymWolf
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GymWolf
Member
Mhw used mt framework, not re engine.
And rise was a switch game at its core, of course it run wonderfully on a decent pc.
Nobody at capcom have any experience with a full fledged open world with re engine and "modern" graphic.
As it says in the article, regarding IQ it is the same case seen in RE4 Remake but in reverse. This time the victim is XSX and on that occasion it was PS5.
Of course this detail is curious. All REngine games were exactly the same and suddenly the details that favored one platform in one game, favored the other in the next
The game in any case has mediocre performance, and with fps locked at 30fps and dropping to 20s it must be unbearable.
You need a 30fps mode and better optimize the 20sfps moments.
Of course this detail is curious. All REngine games were exactly the same and suddenly the details that favored one platform in one game, favored the other in the next
The game in any case has mediocre performance, and with fps locked at 30fps and dropping to 20s it must be unbearable.
You need a 30fps mode and better optimize the 20sfps moments.
Mister Wolf
Member
We all thought so. PC Gamer confirmed it does not have it. I'm sure they plan to include it eventually though as the game does already have Nvidia Reflex.
GymWolf
Member
So no framegen and from my understanding, dlss doesn't really save much performance.
Boy this game is the gift that keep on giving, and i didn't even started playing it yet.
GymWolf
Member
Dogma1 fans living on copium and blindly believing capcom pr talk about grandiose simulation and physics or people who give capcom more credit than they deserve tech wise, their best graphic until now has been re4 remake and that game still look somehow worse than a crossgen gigantic open world from 2 years ago, let alone stuff like alan wake 2 or avatar or cyberpunk.
Japanese devs need to wake the fuck up, simple as that.
After the huge success of mh world and rise, wilds should not fucking look like a mid ps4 game, not even in its reveal trailer in alpha state (the game is gonna be out in 2025, not 2030)
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Killjoy-NL
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No wonder Sony didn't bother to pick a different releasedate for HFW on PC.
Go_Ly_Dow
Member
Rebirth has native 4k and a locked 30fps and the performance mode whilst hovering between 1100-1440p holds 60fps most of the time. The world also looks a lot more detailed than DD2 and character models are higher poly. So I think they've rushed this one out much more so than FF7.Japanese devs battling for who is the more inept with graphic and performances, you love to see it
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Physiognomonics
Member
When bandwidth limited but actually fares worse in CPU limited areas. Like in many others open-world games: Baldur's Gate 3 or Hogwarts Legacy.
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RoboFu
One of the green rats
It's not cpu constraints, it's multi thread programming.
Usually these cases are that something has been created that makes all the threads have to wait for something else to finish before displaying the frame instead of results being truly independent of each other.
With tight deadlines it's not unusual for bandaids to make it to the final product.
Sakura
Member
Looks like it should run fine on my PC.here is pc performance analysis by PCGAMER
Dragon's Dogma 2 performance analysis: It'll take everything your PC has and still want more
I hope you have a top-end CPU and GPU because you're really going to need them.
Arun1910
Member
Same boat. I'm kinda annoyed by this, I will buy this game... when it's fixed.
What really irks me is Capcom coming out saying they are aware of performance issues pretty much as soon as the game released. So you knew... yet decided to release an unoptimized game anyway.
That's not worth full price to me.
GHG
Gold Member
holy crap he says Series S textures are equivalent to Low
"designed to play games at 1440p at 60 frames per second"
"the same output but at a lower resolution"
GymWolf
Member
Yeah remilk part 2 looks definitely better.
Buggy Loop
Member
rofif
who are you referring to with that aggressive take?It does look softer in every way. Checkerboard or whatever solution they’re using. If you can’t spot anisotropic filtering either, there’s not much to help you here, resolution pixel count does not mean much when everything looks softer, to the point where DLSS’s performance would likely match it. (Useless to use as CPU bound)
Physiognomonics
Member
There is quite a big difference this time (biggest this gen?) and is very noticeable notably the vegetation in motion is quite blurrier on Xbox. I would say it's caused by difference of reconstruction methods. Looks way more robust on PS5.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
If that were the case, the game would be shitting the bed at all places and not just in the city.
My bet is that the game has poorly coded NPC routines, nothing to do with the engine itself.
Shut0wen
Banned
Yep only explanation especially for how hard it runs on pc
SmokSmog
Member
You can see the 4090 usage which is 45%, poor 4090 is sleeping while waiting for 5800X3D to do its job.Drops to 32fps on an 5800x3D and RTX 4090. Gotta love it!
Shut0wen
Banned
It dips with 4090, its the engine
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