I've never made any such similar claim about PlayStation.
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IGN: PS5 is outselling Xbox Series X/S 5:1
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HeWhoWalks
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No. We have other posters making outlandish claims about Xbox never doing anything positive for gaming in twenty plus years in the industry. I was directly responding to their claims. It wasn't required of me to highlight PlayStation's contributions also, especially when I haven't made similarly provocative claims about Sony's consoles.
HeWhoWalks
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I take it you found it equally embarrassing when the PS3 had a blu ray drive built in while the 360 used outdated DVD? Will ignore the rest of the drivel in your post. You clearly need professional help.It might have predated it, but with little relevance compared to XBLA.
They did more to popularise DLC for consoles than anyone else. It certainly wasn't Sony or Nintendo.
"Not an achievement" but Sony themselves decided to go with x86 over a decade after Xbox did.MS were far ahead of the game in choosing an x86 processor.
It really isn't. One of the unquestionable good things about Xbox was that it was designed as a platform to put the needs of developers first. I'm sure you're aware of how little developers enjoyed working with the PS3 for example.
The PS2 hard drive was an accessory that not many games actually supported. MS were the first to provide a hard drive as standard, something which Sony again later copied. And yes, MS paid for it. They couldn't get much reduction in the cost of the drive as time went on.
Of course naturally all you want to talk about is sales, sales, sales but that's not the topic being discussed here.
I was being fair in acknowledging the WaveBird while also acknowledging that Xbox were the first to popularise wireless controllers.
They literally admitted to making a prototype controller with an Xbox layout, which shows how much they were being influenced by that design at the time:
The PlayStation 4 controller: The weird stuff that could’ve been (part 1, exclusive)
An exclusive look at every detail on the PlayStation 4 controller. In part one, we look at the sometimes weird options Sony didn't pick for the DualShock 4.venturebeat.com
While they kept the traditional PS stick placements, the bulkier feel of the controller, the triggers and the concave sticks are obvious evidence of an Xbox influence.
The standard Xbox introduced a 4k Blu-ray drive, which the PS4 Pro didn't have. The so called premium device didn't have it. And even worse, Sony are supposed to be the custodians of Blu-ray technology.
I acknowledged the WaveBird.
Xbox were first to pack the wireless controller with their console.
Plus the core pack was replaced by the 360 Arcade console relatively quickly- which did have a wireless controller. It's also highly debatable whether the core bundle was "standard" or a budget option.
Not really. MS had no stake in Blu-ray. Sony do have a stake in Blu-ray and chose to sell a "premium" console without a 4K disc drive at a time when Xbox included it as standard.
And thanks for the advice. Clearly you aren't at all overly invested in these topics.
Nintendo had bundles I believe and the 360 Arcade wasn't "relatively quickly" It was 2 years after the launch of 360. They replaced the Core with Arcade in response to PS3 to match its features (a year after PS3 launch), namely hdmi output and the wireless controller. PS3 made it the standard.
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demigod
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Sub 100k months are incoming when Switch 2 releases.
YeulEmeralda
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Blu-ray? Don't you guys have Netflix?
You'll own nothing and like it, comrade.
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memoryman3
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Now who is going to pick a Switch 2 over a PS or Xbox?
Unknown?
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Whatflix? Ohhhh Lowbitrateflix!
Ritsumei2020
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Its crazy to me how much PS has steamrolled Xbox this gen. I think.MS has so much against them they could and never will be successful in hardware.
They're a company that no one likes and those that do...well look at the photos and Jizz.
Ive always enjoyed the platform and for me personally, have seen the benefits from programs such as play anywhere and cross buy etc. They've pushed free cloud saves for years. Great (compared to the competition) refund policies but none of this cool stuff can cut through how fucking useless they are at the day to day running of the business.
I think they could have really made some cool changes to policies happen within console gaming if they could have only just figured the basics out. I'm not saying running business is easy, far from it. Im jist saying you gotta deliver on the core principles or you end up where they are now.
Money is not the answer to good business. Strong individuals with good ideas that they execute is what matters. And MS have failed at every step on that front.
Third party will save them and make them a monster in the publishing of software world but ultimately I think we will lose out.
PS will absolutely destroy the xbox now as you would have to know exactly what you are signing up for to buy an Xbox this gen.
I perosnally don't feel Sony deserve the sales they are receiving this gen and I think their fans are far too soft on them as a business. Sony fans should be demanding free cloud saves and other benefits but that's another convo. The ps5 has clearly done what ever it needed to do to kill off Xbox but I dont think it's going to be sunshine and roses from here on out, unfortunately. But, maybe I'm just bitter and old
We know now what MS would do if they were on top again like they were briefly during the 360 era. All the good stuff and the good will would be replaced by obtusely greedy ideas.
Do you remember when MS wanted to put a stop to second hand games? That was silly, right? Well, that is Microsoft. If they somehow get back to the top, they’ll come up with something else, just as bad.
Switch 2 will pretty much snatch any life that was left in Series S market.
Which reminds me talking of things MS brought to the industry wasn’t Netflix exclusive on 360 for a time and locked behind Xbox live gold. And give credit for MS being the only one charging a fee to play free-to-play multiplayer games online for years.
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